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  • P Paul Watson

    Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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    Jeff Buckley. A truly tragic accidental death by drowning. His father (Tim) died young too. :(


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      Or Pink Floyd's Sid Barrett.

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      Syd Barrett is still alive!


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      • P Paul Watson

        Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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        well that totally sucks. he was one of my favorites. ImgSource | CheeseWeasle

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          Syd Barrett is still alive!


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          Yeah, but he no longer contributes to the band (of course, the band itself is defunct now). I was just struck by the fact that like Brian Jones and the Stones, he was a primary creative influence in the bands early days, but became something of an asterisk.

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            Yeah, but he no longer contributes to the band (of course, the band itself is defunct now). I was just struck by the fact that like Brian Jones and the Stones, he was a primary creative influence in the bands early days, but became something of an asterisk.

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            He was a textbook acid casualty unfortunately. :(


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            • P Paul Watson

              Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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              i was just talking about this with erin its very very sad :((


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              • P Paul Watson

                Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                Paul Watson wrote: Paul Watson wrote: This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. Wow, and I thought I was the only one who did this... good point. The first time I was ever truly bummed over the death of a musician was when Stevie Ray Vaughan was killed in the helicopter crash. I'm not much into blues music anymore, but I really thought he was one of the finest guitar players ever. It seemed such a shame when he went. Paul

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                  I had a thoroughly bad day when John Lennon was murdered; it was so utterly senseless... I learned to play guitar from a book called "The Beatles Complete" and grew up surrounded by so much of his music.:(( "Your village called -
                  They're missing their idiot."

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                    Stevie Ray Vaughn. I still listen in disbelief at the sounds and emotion that man could coax out of a six string. Riviera Paradise is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard while still making me shaking my head and say "God Damn!! Stevie I feel ya, brother!"

                    "The beat goes on.. da-da-dum dadum dum"

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                      I had a thoroughly bad day when John Lennon was murdered; it was so utterly senseless... I learned to play guitar from a book called "The Beatles Complete" and grew up surrounded by so much of his music.:(( "Your village called -
                      They're missing their idiot."

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                      >I learned to play guitar from a book called "The Beatles Complete" I have that. I also have "THe Complete Beatles Scores" which not only has guitar tab/chords, but bass, drums and keyboards too. Only available in the US/Canada (Amazon.com thankyou!).


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                        Paul Watson wrote: Paul Watson wrote: This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. Wow, and I thought I was the only one who did this... good point. The first time I was ever truly bummed over the death of a musician was when Stevie Ray Vaughan was killed in the helicopter crash. I'm not much into blues music anymore, but I really thought he was one of the finest guitar players ever. It seemed such a shame when he went. Paul

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                        We definitely lost out on years of quality music. I hate when I hear things like Kenny Wayne Shepard could be the next SRV. Not possible. His genius was unique.

                        "The beat goes on.. da-da-dum dadum dum"

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                          Paul Watson wrote: I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those Yes, I agree, Here are some I could think of 1>System of a down members with http://www.systemofadown.com/[^] 2>Zack de la Roche with Rage Against the Machine http://www.ratm.com[^] Just victims of the in-house drive-by They say jump, you say how high

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                            Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                            Can't say i really care much for any musician. KC's death bothered me, but more because it removed the possibility of more Nirvana songs than anything else. Many of the people listed here died when i was too young to even be aware of it. Elliott Smith i've never heard, but will have to do some KaZaa'ing tonight & see what it's all about. Queen... is catchy, but a bit too over the top for my tastes... i understand Mercury was insanely popular during his life, but lacking the actual experience of being old enough to care, i at a loss to figure out why. SRV did some amazing music... his death was a tragedy because there will be no more of it. Marley was amazing - of those mentioned, he's probably the only one i could potentially have cared about.

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                              Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                              • P Paul Watson

                                Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                  Just heard that Elliot Smith is dead, apparently he took his own life earlier today, aged 34. This is the first time I have ever cared about the death of a musician. Strange maybe but I have always disasociated musicians from their music. It is about the only way I could appreciate the music without getting hung up over some of the rather bizarre people behind it. But after only recently being introduced to his music I have for the first time really felt the artist behind the words and melodies. An Elliott Smith track is very much Elliott Smith, hard to confuse with others. Admitedly it has added to my appreciation of the music, something I happily take back :) So what other musicians would you say have this same element? What other musicians do you actually care for the artist as well as the music? I would say Freddy Mercury of Queen was one of those. I was too young when he died though to fully appreciate the loss. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                  Nick Drake, but, alas, to late. Subway to Sally, cause I saw them when they were small, when they became "big", and when they returned to what they can do. And it is - kind of - "the soundtrack of my life". Sinead O'Connor, the early years - when her voice was a vent to scream out her anger and strength


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                                    Can't say i really care much for any musician. KC's death bothered me, but more because it removed the possibility of more Nirvana songs than anything else. Many of the people listed here died when i was too young to even be aware of it. Elliott Smith i've never heard, but will have to do some KaZaa'ing tonight & see what it's all about. Queen... is catchy, but a bit too over the top for my tastes... i understand Mercury was insanely popular during his life, but lacking the actual experience of being old enough to care, i at a loss to figure out why. SRV did some amazing music... his death was a tragedy because there will be no more of it. Marley was amazing - of those mentioned, he's probably the only one i could potentially have cared about.

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                                    I made fun of Kurt Kaboom when he died. I was young and thought Nirvana was just some drugged up shit that represented the worst of the bad kids in my age group. Man I was a tight arse when I was younger. Now I even listen to Nirvana voluntarily. Still Kurt Kaboom to me, gets under the skin of die hard Nirvana fans. Funny, I would have had you pegged as an appreciator of musicians. Kurt posters, shrines to the Stripes or whoever :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                      To each his own :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                        Nick Drake, but, alas, to late. Subway to Sally, cause I saw them when they were small, when they became "big", and when they returned to what they can do. And it is - kind of - "the soundtrack of my life". Sinead O'Connor, the early years - when her voice was a vent to scream out her anger and strength


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                                        I should find some Nick Drake, lot of comparisons between him and Elliott Smith it seems. ta. >Sinead O'Conno LOL, makes Alanis Morissette look calm she does. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                          I made fun of Kurt Kaboom when he died. I was young and thought Nirvana was just some drugged up shit that represented the worst of the bad kids in my age group. Man I was a tight arse when I was younger. Now I even listen to Nirvana voluntarily. Still Kurt Kaboom to me, gets under the skin of die hard Nirvana fans. Funny, I would have had you pegged as an appreciator of musicians. Kurt posters, shrines to the Stripes or whoever :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                          Paul Watson wrote: Funny, I would have had you pegged as an appreciator of musicians. Appreciator, yes. Worshipper, no. At one time, i was far more zealous in my musical appreciation, demonizing those with different tastes. But i realized with time... It ain't nothin' but music. ;) Appreciate, respect, imitate even... i do that with newspaper columnists, and would no more set up a shrine to the late KC than i would to the late Mike Royko. :)

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