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  • M Marc Clifton

    Well, Thank Goodness is all I can say. Most of my clients are barely ready for XP, and another totally new OS comes out? Good grief. Like some reviewer recently wrote, what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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    Marc Clifton wrote: what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Exactly my point.. Given Microsoft's slippery release dates record, I bet the 2006 date will be moved further ahead.
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    • B Barry Lapthorn

      For those who aren't at the PDC ;) http://feedster.com/pdc/[^] http://msdn.microsoft.com/longhorn[^] Cheers, Barry

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      J Dunlap
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      Hey, thanks for the links! :-D Digging into Avalon here, and seeing that its definition is a lot like Fluid, but that there still might be some interop problems. One possible problem involves the question: are non-XAML XML nodes allowed in the GUI Definition? Things like that. BTW, when are we going to see a PDC forum on CP??

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        Hey, thanks for the links! :-D Digging into Avalon here, and seeing that its definition is a lot like Fluid, but that there still might be some interop problems. One possible problem involves the question: are non-XAML XML nodes allowed in the GUI Definition? Things like that. BTW, when are we going to see a PDC forum on CP??

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        jdunlap wrote: non-XAML XML nodes allowed in the GUI Definition? And the answer is, YES! "Of course, the modern programmer wants to know: can I use my own classes as XAML elements? And the answer is: of course you can. XAML is called the Extensible Application Markup Language for a reason. Any class that has a public parameterless constructor and settable properties can be used in XAML." :-D

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Well, Thank Goodness is all I can say. Most of my clients are barely ready for XP, and another totally new OS comes out? Good grief. Like some reviewer recently wrote, what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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          Terry ONolley
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          Marc Clifton wrote: what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? From the client's POV: nada From MS's POV: $$$


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          • M Marc Clifton

            Well, Thank Goodness is all I can say. Most of my clients are barely ready for XP, and another totally new OS comes out? Good grief. Like some reviewer recently wrote, what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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            Marc Clifton wrote: what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Generally you need benefits for people to upgrade although people do buy on emotion and justify with Emotion. MS seems to have based its upgrading pitch on providing new usages of it's shells. When a good proportion of the web does not render for a user since they don't have IEx.xx Then users will want IEx.xx but unfortunately you will need Windows-x.xxx to load it. I actually believe MS does work on the forward and backward compatibility issues very strongly. However it doesn't take much of an issue to mean that a whole enterprise needs to upgrade. So I think the main benefit is, if you don't upgrade you will be left behind. I don't think XP has much over Win2000 to be honest. But MS have managed to make good sales of XP-PRO. It would be interesting to see stats on who upgraded and from what, to see the whole psychology working. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Well, Thank Goodness is all I can say. Most of my clients are barely ready for XP, and another totally new OS comes out? Good grief. Like some reviewer recently wrote, what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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              Todd C Wilson
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              Most of the business clients I've dealt with recently are still running Windows 95 and 98, god forbid. And these are Fortune 1000-level companies, even. Generally, IT only replaces the whole computer and takes whatever Dell or CDW puts on it. Talk about farking lazy.


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              • M Marc Clifton

                Well, Thank Goodness is all I can say. Most of my clients are barely ready for XP, and another totally new OS comes out? Good grief. Like some reviewer recently wrote, what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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                Marc Clifton wrote: Well, Thank Goodness is all I can say. Most of my clients are barely ready for XP, and another totally new OS comes out? Good grief. Like some reviewer recently wrote, what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? HA! Half our clients are still deliberating Windows 98, and wondering what that thingy is with the two buttons and the cord coming out of it that kind of looks like a mouse... or something. Paul

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                  jdunlap wrote: non-XAML XML nodes allowed in the GUI Definition? And the answer is, YES! "Of course, the modern programmer wants to know: can I use my own classes as XAML elements? And the answer is: of course you can. XAML is called the Extensible Application Markup Language for a reason. Any class that has a public parameterless constructor and settable properties can be used in XAML." :-D

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                  We seemed to head to the same area on the links. Should be pretty cool when it comes out. Kind of ASP.NET meets Windows Applications! I just do not want to wait until 2006 ;) Rocky <>< www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Well, Thank Goodness is all I can say. Most of my clients are barely ready for XP, and another totally new OS comes out? Good grief. Like some reviewer recently wrote, what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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                    Just my two cents but when Windows XP came out everyone was saying the same thing. It happens slowly but it does happen. MS market it as now, now, now but I am pretty sure they know it will take years. Surely they are planning on the same for Longhorn. Release 2006, hope to have it in the market in force by 2009. It is in their plans. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                    • K Kant

                      Marc Clifton wrote: what's the business reason for upgrading to Longhorn? Exactly my point.. Given Microsoft's slippery release dates record, I bet the 2006 date will be moved further ahead.
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                      Erik Funkenbusch
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                      I find it rather ironic that you seem to be upset that Microsoft is releasing a new OS, but are frustrated that it's not coming fast enough??? -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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