RSS Feeds
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ok, help me out. i've done some investigating on rss feeds, just seems to be xml. doesn't seem very practical unless you have some kind of reader to display it formatted. am i missing something or are there readers i haven't found? Josef Wainz Software Developer
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ok, help me out. i've done some investigating on rss feeds, just seems to be xml. doesn't seem very practical unless you have some kind of reader to display it formatted. am i missing something or are there readers i haven't found? Josef Wainz Software Developer
It is super practical, and it is XML... You do know XML don't you? If not, you really need to learn, and RSS is a great start.. coz the entire .NET Framework (Wave of the future..) is XML-centric... There is a great new software (Sorry Ian for this shameless plug) by Bradbury called FeedDemon that is super easy to use and feature rich. It is currently free and Beta1 at BradSoft FeedDemon and a free php XML parser called Carp that is also real easy to use. Of course, there are plenty of "buy-one" take one .NET controls you can purchase to consume and/or create RSS feeds if you don;t want to get your hands dirty in code. Peace ;) Practice sesquipedilianism! ;)
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ok, help me out. i've done some investigating on rss feeds, just seems to be xml. doesn't seem very practical unless you have some kind of reader to display it formatted. am i missing something or are there readers i haven't found? Josef Wainz Software Developer
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A fie on you Watson! I'll get you over to the dark side soon... :mad:
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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A fie on you Watson! I'll get you over to the dark side soon... :mad:
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Make Awasu look and work like FeedDemon and add-in that funky plug-in stuff you have going and you will have an awesome app. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Make Awasu look and work like FeedDemon and add-in that funky plug-in stuff you have going and you will have an awesome app. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Make Awasu look and work like FeedDemon and add-in that funky plug-in stuff you have going and you will have an awesome app. But then it would be FeedDemon :-) What's the point of writing an app that looks and works exactly like something else? Awasu has strengths in areas that other readers are afraid to even think about :-) yet our UI and usability is, while different, still pretty good.
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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Paul Watson wrote: Make Awasu look and work like FeedDemon and add-in that funky plug-in stuff you have going and you will have an awesome app. But then it would be FeedDemon :-) What's the point of writing an app that looks and works exactly like something else? Awasu has strengths in areas that other readers are afraid to even think about :-) yet our UI and usability is, while different, still pretty good.
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
I am giving you honest feedback Taka. I don't like the Awasu interface at all. I think the app has a lot of potential and is technically very good. I don't mean copy button for button FeedDemon, of course not. But the style is very slick, the layout works well and it would not be a bad thing to copy and add-on your own fantastic ideas and features. When you find a good thing, use it. The only thing I would change in FD is to have a treeview instead of the Channel Groups drop-down idea. If you can give people Awasu functionality with FD slickness then you will have a Good ThingTM. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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I am giving you honest feedback Taka. I don't like the Awasu interface at all. I think the app has a lot of potential and is technically very good. I don't mean copy button for button FeedDemon, of course not. But the style is very slick, the layout works well and it would not be a bad thing to copy and add-on your own fantastic ideas and features. When you find a good thing, use it. The only thing I would change in FD is to have a treeview instead of the Channel Groups drop-down idea. If you can give people Awasu functionality with FD slickness then you will have a Good ThingTM. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: But the style is very slick, the layout works well and it would not be a bad thing to copy and add-on your own fantastic ideas and features. I agree, it is very slick. But I suspect that it will prove to be a case of more style than substance. FD will almost certainly always be a consumer product for people who just want to read blogs. And that's fine, and it does a very good job of it, especially for the less technically oriented. But we have big plans for Awasu (I talk a bit about them here[^]) and being an RSS reader is just a first step towards that vision. Unfortunately, I only have limited time and have chosen to focus on powerful features rather than extra slickness in the UI. Which is not to say that our UI is shabby - I'm quite happy with it - but it's a question of priorities :-(
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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Paul Watson wrote: But the style is very slick, the layout works well and it would not be a bad thing to copy and add-on your own fantastic ideas and features. I agree, it is very slick. But I suspect that it will prove to be a case of more style than substance. FD will almost certainly always be a consumer product for people who just want to read blogs. And that's fine, and it does a very good job of it, especially for the less technically oriented. But we have big plans for Awasu (I talk a bit about them here[^]) and being an RSS reader is just a first step towards that vision. Unfortunately, I only have limited time and have chosen to focus on powerful features rather than extra slickness in the UI. Which is not to say that our UI is shabby - I'm quite happy with it - but it's a question of priorities :-(
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
>But I suspect that it will prove to be a case of more style than substance I don't think you can accuse a focused app of having more style than substance. FD does what it does very well and it looks good. Techies can bad mouth flash UIs all they want but they do help. As you say for you priorities come first and thats fine. But don't expect Awasu to appeal to the masses as it currently is, that is what FD has done, brought RSS to the masses. My mom can use FD. But we have been over this before. I think Awasu is great. It is not an RSS reader, it is so much more. So much more that I don't currently need or want to need yet. I am definitley keeping my eye on Awasu, waiting for that defining moment when it twigs for me. Till then I just want a slick RSS reader and FD does that very well. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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>But I suspect that it will prove to be a case of more style than substance I don't think you can accuse a focused app of having more style than substance. FD does what it does very well and it looks good. Techies can bad mouth flash UIs all they want but they do help. As you say for you priorities come first and thats fine. But don't expect Awasu to appeal to the masses as it currently is, that is what FD has done, brought RSS to the masses. My mom can use FD. But we have been over this before. I think Awasu is great. It is not an RSS reader, it is so much more. So much more that I don't currently need or want to need yet. I am definitley keeping my eye on Awasu, waiting for that defining moment when it twigs for me. Till then I just want a slick RSS reader and FD does that very well. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: I don't think you can accuse a focused app of having more style than substance. FD does what it does very well and it looks good. Techies can bad mouth flash UIs all they want but they do help. I wasn't bad-mouthing it all. I totally agree that a good UI and usability are crucial and FD looks fantastic and is very slick. But it reads feeds and that's all it does. There is a big push on for more smarts in software interconnectivity, information management, in building the Semantic Web and we aim to be part of that. Paul Watson wrote: But don't expect Awasu to appeal to the masses as it currently is, that is what FD has done, brought RSS to the masses. My mom can use FD. I would disagree with you there. There are plenty of people raving about how easy and intuitive Awasu is to install and use; this is something we've really focused on. My Mom doesn't use computers but if she did, she'd be using Awasu (now there's an advertising slogan for ya! :-)) Paul Watson wrote: I am definitley keeping my eye on Awasu, waiting for that defining moment when it twigs for me. Jeez, isn't being able to monitor The Lounge *and* the Soapbox in your reader enough? :rolleyes: :-D;P
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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Paul Watson wrote: I don't think you can accuse a focused app of having more style than substance. FD does what it does very well and it looks good. Techies can bad mouth flash UIs all they want but they do help. I wasn't bad-mouthing it all. I totally agree that a good UI and usability are crucial and FD looks fantastic and is very slick. But it reads feeds and that's all it does. There is a big push on for more smarts in software interconnectivity, information management, in building the Semantic Web and we aim to be part of that. Paul Watson wrote: But don't expect Awasu to appeal to the masses as it currently is, that is what FD has done, brought RSS to the masses. My mom can use FD. I would disagree with you there. There are plenty of people raving about how easy and intuitive Awasu is to install and use; this is something we've really focused on. My Mom doesn't use computers but if she did, she'd be using Awasu (now there's an advertising slogan for ya! :-)) Paul Watson wrote: I am definitley keeping my eye on Awasu, waiting for that defining moment when it twigs for me. Jeez, isn't being able to monitor The Lounge *and* the Soapbox in your reader enough? :rolleyes: :-D;P
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
>Jeez, isn't being able to monitor The Lounge *and* the Soapbox in your reader enough? LOL You speak of the semantic web up above, yet building plugins to read proprietary pages like the CP forums is kind of counter the whole spirit of that. Certainly once CP starts using standards more effectively and using semantic markup then a plugin for reading the forums is good. Still have a long way to go towards that though (and not just on CP but with standards and world wide use of them). regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Uhm. 10% of the XSL file? Ok. Which 10% do you want? ;) -- The coolest game in the world: NHL Hockey[^]
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>Jeez, isn't being able to monitor The Lounge *and* the Soapbox in your reader enough? LOL You speak of the semantic web up above, yet building plugins to read proprietary pages like the CP forums is kind of counter the whole spirit of that. Certainly once CP starts using standards more effectively and using semantic markup then a plugin for reading the forums is good. Still have a long way to go towards that though (and not just on CP but with standards and world wide use of them). regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: You speak of the semantic web up above, yet building plugins to read proprietary pages like the CP forums is kind of counter the whole spirit of that. Not true. Awasu reads CP's web service to monitor the Lounge and there's a bunch of meta-data in there. We scrape the Soapbox only because it is not available in the web service. I did ask Chris but he said "not a chance" :-) :rolleyes: RSS is simply the first step towards something bigger. I can guarantee you that ten years from now, we will look at the current crop of readers (and RSS) the same way we look at Lynx now: a good start but laughably primitive.
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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Paul Watson wrote: You speak of the semantic web up above, yet building plugins to read proprietary pages like the CP forums is kind of counter the whole spirit of that. Not true. Awasu reads CP's web service to monitor the Lounge and there's a bunch of meta-data in there. We scrape the Soapbox only because it is not available in the web service. I did ask Chris but he said "not a chance" :-) :rolleyes: RSS is simply the first step towards something bigger. I can guarantee you that ten years from now, we will look at the current crop of readers (and RSS) the same way we look at Lynx now: a good start but laughably primitive.
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Fine, my mistake on the Lounge. But the comment still stands for the SB. Scraping is counter productive. And I have no doubt 10 years from now we will look back and think todays crop are primitive. Nothing wrong with that. Actually, 10 years from now I hope all I use a PC for is to ummm.. hmmm.. actually I will have an assistant then so I won't need to. Goodbye PC ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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As has been said, there are a bunch of parsers / readers out there. One of the better ones is at www.awasu.com[^] which I use. The author used to hang out around here, and its free. Iain.
thanks, i downloaded and installed awasu this morning. i spent the last 30 minutes subscribing to channels. this is usefull. Josef Wainz Software Developer
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Iain Clarke wrote: The author used to hang out around here, and its free. Oi! I'm still here! Just really, really, really busy these days :-(
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Taka Muraoka wrote: Just really, really, really busy these days Stories of your "demise" have been greatly exaggerated, eh? Well, if you're going to let real life get in the way of "lounge"ing about, then what do you expect! Iain.
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Taka Muraoka wrote: Just really, really, really busy these days Stories of your "demise" have been greatly exaggerated, eh? Well, if you're going to let real life get in the way of "lounge"ing about, then what do you expect! Iain.
Stories of my demise?! Hey, what have people been saying about me while I've been away? :-(
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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Stories of my demise?! Hey, what have people been saying about me while I've been away? :-(
"Sucks less" isn't progress - Kent Beck [^] Awasu 1.1.3 [^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Taka Muraoka wrote: Hey, what have people been saying about me while I've been away? Nothing. I just realised I hadn't seen your name here for ages. And I thought a literary misquote would be appropriate. So you can calm down and have a niiiiice cup of tea. Iain.