Legal Drinking Age
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"A 18 year old kid walks into Buds Bottle Store. He steps up to the counter and asks for a six pack of Bud. The owner asks for his ID and refuses to sell him the six pack. The kid is seriously hacked off by this and storms out. Thinking, the kid goes down to Garths Gun Store. He asks for a 9mil semi automatic wadda wadda. The owner sells it to him happily, along with a free round of ammo. The kid then goes back to Buds Bottle Store, points the gun at Bud (the owner) and asks again for a six pack. Bud does not refuse this time." I think that explains the stupidity of the law. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Well, there is a minimum 5-day waiting period to *legally* purchase a firearm. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
Now that seems highly appropriate, this ensures that if you still wants to wipe out your colleques at the post office after 5 days, then at least you have spent some time thinking about it...:-D "It could have been worse, it could have been ME!"
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Well, there is a minimum 5-day waiting period to *legally* purchase a firearm. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
Well, that is a relief! Now I can breath easy. Five whole days! ;P Do you have any idea on the statistics of # of armed crimes vs. legally bought firearms? i.e. How many crimes involving a weapon involved a legally bought weapon? I know that down south (Africa) something like 75% of all armed-crimes are comitted with stolen or illegal weapons. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Well, that is a relief! Now I can breath easy. Five whole days! ;P Do you have any idea on the statistics of # of armed crimes vs. legally bought firearms? i.e. How many crimes involving a weapon involved a legally bought weapon? I know that down south (Africa) something like 75% of all armed-crimes are comitted with stolen or illegal weapons. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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"A 18 year old kid walks into Buds Bottle Store. He steps up to the counter and asks for a six pack of Bud. The owner asks for his ID and refuses to sell him the six pack. The kid is seriously hacked off by this and storms out. Thinking, the kid goes down to Garths Gun Store. He asks for a 9mil semi automatic wadda wadda. The owner sells it to him happily, along with a free round of ammo. The kid then goes back to Buds Bottle Store, points the gun at Bud (the owner) and asks again for a six pack. Bud does not refuse this time." I think that explains the stupidity of the law. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
I guess our second amendment should have read: "Getting drunk being necessary for the purpose of having a good time, the right to buy and sell alcohol shall not be infringed." Far more people are killed and injured by drunk 18 years olds than by armed 18 year olds.:rose: "War is hell" William Tecumseh Sherman.
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Just want someone to explain to me why you must be 21 in the US to drink alcohol. At 18 you can vote, go to war, get married and have children. I remember reading somewhere that you can drive a car when you are 15. I just don't get waiting til your 21. I was in the US when I was 30. I had to show ID at an Ice Hockey game before I was served beer and before I was allowed to enter Cheers. Both times I was and looked older than the monkeys requesting the ID. Was pissed off severely at the time but laugh about it now. OK, I'm just trying to kick off a long winded contraversial thread. ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
21? Geez, I would have spent most of my youth in jail if I was American... I think all age limits should be abolished, and instead the governments of the world should invest in a maturity test. I've seen more responsible 16 year olds drinking than I have 21 year olds. (though in Tiverton 21 years is the accepted age to start smoking pot, which may be a factor).
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David is it true that Canadians are wannabe Americans ?
This isn't conversation anymore, everyone's just running around tweaking noses and trying to pick fights :-D David http://www.dundas.com
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Check this out: http://www.ama-assn.org/special/aos/alcohol1/research/21year.htm Jon Sagara Sagara Software
I can understand the reasoning behind raising the MLDA to 21, but how many American's honestly stick to that? When you are young is the only time you actually have the time to get pissed, stoned (or both at the same time ;)), etc, so why not just let the kids get on with it. Most will probably stop by about 21 as it is. I mean alcohol, marijuana and girls are hardly things you touch outside of social activities, and we all know your social life stops at 21! That’s why so many people get married in their mid twenties...
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In Malta, the drinking age is 16, it is not enforced however... I started drinking at 14, some of my friends started earlier. I pity the Americans and Canadians... you are sooo restricted. (2b || !2b)
Don't feel too bad; alcohol is very easy to come by for youngsters here in America. I started drinking when I was 17 and never had problems getting the stuff. Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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Don't feel too bad; alcohol is very easy to come by for youngsters here in America. I started drinking when I was 17 and never had problems getting the stuff. Jon Sagara Sagara Software
Where there's a will there's a way! ;P (2b || !2b)
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I can understand the reasoning behind raising the MLDA to 21, but how many American's honestly stick to that? When you are young is the only time you actually have the time to get pissed, stoned (or both at the same time ;)), etc, so why not just let the kids get on with it. Most will probably stop by about 21 as it is. I mean alcohol, marijuana and girls are hardly things you touch outside of social activities, and we all know your social life stops at 21! That’s why so many people get married in their mid twenties...
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Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Founder of The BLA tlhIngan maH! Hab SoSlI' Quch! (in Aqkuoerian)
Beats me, man. I was drunk every weekend starting when I was 17. That lasted until my 18th birthday. Then I had to clean it up for baseball season. After that, I went to college, and the rest, as they say, is history. ;P Anyway, the point is that you're right. That law is largely ineffective in that it is broken every single day, but I do believe it helps save some lives. And, alcohol is so readily accessible to minors that there is no need to change the law. Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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Where there's a will there's a way! ;P (2b || !2b)
And where there's $50 of beer to be bought, sometimes the clerk will look the other way. :) Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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Beats me, man. I was drunk every weekend starting when I was 17. That lasted until my 18th birthday. Then I had to clean it up for baseball season. After that, I went to college, and the rest, as they say, is history. ;P Anyway, the point is that you're right. That law is largely ineffective in that it is broken every single day, but I do believe it helps save some lives. And, alcohol is so readily accessible to minors that there is no need to change the law. Jon Sagara Sagara Software
Hey, I started at 17 too! The sad thing is that I can still remember... And, alcohol is so readily accessible to minors that there is no need to change the law. You mean that because this law is constantly broken that there's no point changing it? While I agree it is a stupid requirement to restrict alcohol to under 21's (my ideal age would be around 17), if there is a law it should be upheld. I know this makes me a hypocrite, but then again I never said I was perfect.
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Hey, I started at 17 too! The sad thing is that I can still remember... And, alcohol is so readily accessible to minors that there is no need to change the law. You mean that because this law is constantly broken that there's no point changing it? While I agree it is a stupid requirement to restrict alcohol to under 21's (my ideal age would be around 17), if there is a law it should be upheld. I know this makes me a hypocrite, but then again I never said I was perfect.
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Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Founder of The BLA tlhIngan maH! Hab SoSlI' Quch! (in Aqkuoerian)
You mean that because this law is constantly broken that there's no point changing it? It's just too impractical to change it. America would have to become a communist country in order to effectively enforce this law. That would involve invading peoples' personal privacies, which just doesn't fly here. Can you imagine police going door to door at dinner time just to make sure Jr. isn't having a beer with Pops? Or having an officer stationed at every liquor store/bar/grocery store to check every person who looks like they might be under age? As it is, it gives the general public warm fuzzies to think that their minors don't start drinking until they're 21. Little do they know! :cool: Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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Hey, I started at 17 too! The sad thing is that I can still remember... And, alcohol is so readily accessible to minors that there is no need to change the law. You mean that because this law is constantly broken that there's no point changing it? While I agree it is a stupid requirement to restrict alcohol to under 21's (my ideal age would be around 17), if there is a law it should be upheld. I know this makes me a hypocrite, but then again I never said I was perfect.
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Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Founder of The BLA tlhIngan maH! Hab SoSlI' Quch! (in Aqkuoerian)
Birthday Tuesday 2nd October, 2001 I'm sorry David, I'm going to have to check your ID. You don't appear to be old enough to post in The Lounge. :-D Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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. OK, I'm just trying to kick off a long winded contraversial thread. Thats nice of you, in NZ you can get your licence at 15 I find 21 a bit old to start entering bars, But remember the USA managed to have prohibition for about 10yrs Which is an utterly amazing fact I've found Americans to be "sensible drinkers" eg. they don't go out and binge like Kiwi's Aussies and Germans.(and some Poms) I remember as a young bloke have a puke on the hill at the SCG, "Now you wouldn't do that at a Ice Hockey or Baseball game in the states. Also false ID's seem to be big in the USA with many young folk carrying them which just makes a mockery of the law.
> I've found Americans to be "sensible drinkers" eg. > they don't go out and binge like Kiwi's Aussies and > Germans.(and some Poms) I've got to say (as a Pom who lived in Germany for a number of years).. the Germans don't binge, and most Brits do! I found most Germans would go out for an evening (starting about 9pm) and drink steady until 1 or 2am. Us Brits living out there would get to the pub a little earlier (5pm through to 7pm) and drink like there is no tomorrow. Come 11pm we'd be slaughtered [whilst our German collegues would be on their second or third], then remember that it's not the UK and the bar wasn't about to close on us. :beer: :beer: :beer: BTW, despite being in German, we couldn't really drink in metric :beer:, so Pils had to be served to us in half-litre glasses (it can sometime take a while to convince the bar staff of that :) ) Regards, Ray
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Birthday Tuesday 2nd October, 2001 I'm sorry David, I'm going to have to check your ID. You don't appear to be old enough to post in The Lounge. :-D Jon Sagara Sagara Software
It said "Birthday", not "Date of Birth". Seeing as my birthday was 2nd October, it seemed logical to enter that.
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Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Founder of The BLA tlhIngan maH! Hab SoSlI' Quch! (in Aqkuoerian)
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It said "Birthday", not "Date of Birth". Seeing as my birthday was 2nd October, it seemed logical to enter that.
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Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Founder of The BLA tlhIngan maH! Hab SoSlI' Quch! (in Aqkuoerian)
Tomato, Tomoto. Happy Belated Birthday! Jon Sagara "Oh Lisa, you and your lies. Bart's a vampire, beer kills brain cells. Let's go back to that building... thingy... where our beds... is."
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Tomato, Tomoto. Happy Belated Birthday! Jon Sagara "Oh Lisa, you and your lies. Bart's a vampire, beer kills brain cells. Let's go back to that building... thingy... where our beds... is."
Thanks. I think. :cool:
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Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Founder of The BLA tlhIngan maH! Hab SoSlI' Quch! (in Aqkuoerian)
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I'm talking Summer games here, the real Olympics. The Winter games were made up by snow bound countries who could run, jump or swim weren't they? Or is it a fact that the Ancient Greeks had skiing and skating events? You being Australian would know all about the Greeks F***ing Moron,
As a metter of fact, it was Australian's who helped the Ancient Greeks setup their Olympics in the first place. As a Kiwi I thought you would be keeping your head down. Outside of The Rainbow Warrior what have they ever done. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone