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  • P ProffK

    All I have at the moment is Visio, and it is especially tedious especially on a class diagram. Can anyone recommend a tool that is more suitable, at not too great a price?

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    Johann Gerell
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    Poseidon For UML[^]. Different versions ranging from a somewhat "crippled" but usable (I use it almost daily) gratis version up to fully fledged professional versions with all sorts of plugins and yadayada. -- Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability
    to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable
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      All I have at the moment is Visio, and it is especially tedious especially on a class diagram. Can anyone recommend a tool that is more suitable, at not too great a price?

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      - You can model with ArgoUML (slow sloppy java) . Its actually a case tool, but I It supports most of UML and is free. Export to EPS or gif, I think. You have to get used to the UI but you can do everything (for creating UML diagrams) with it. http://argouml.tigris.org/ - DIA. something supposed to clone Visio. available on win32, too. open source stuff. I hate it. It is an ultimate user-agnostic experience (regarding GUI). you cannot resize UML elements. they are always as big as the text (they hold). This seems reasonable, but think about state diagrams. http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/ - Powerpoint You know it, and it works. It has no direct UML support (who cares). you have to buildup everything using primitives... But it works. Dia could be used in that way too. - UML Studio (pragsoft) Again a case tool, but not too expensive and with a slick UI. Its fun creating the diagrams. Ask bruce eckel for more stuff http://www.mindview.net/WebLog/log-0041 Bottom line: Use _your_ favourite drawing tool for the job. CASE sucks, anyway. I use argoUML just for diagrams and nothing else, and its ok. have fun ______________________________ Java: The living proof Moore's law won't solve all your problems

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        Poseidon For UML[^]. Different versions ranging from a somewhat "crippled" but usable (I use it almost daily) gratis version up to fully fledged professional versions with all sorts of plugins and yadayada. -- Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability
        to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable
        for their apparent disinclination to do so. (Douglas Adams)

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        Its based on ArgoUML (free), so you can use that directly. ______________________________ Java: The living proof Moore's law won't solve all your problems

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          Its based on ArgoUML (free), so you can use that directly. ______________________________ Java: The living proof Moore's law won't solve all your problems

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          Compared to Poseidon, ArgoUML sucks. Gentleware claim they "support and monitor" the development of ArgoUML, but I must say that Poseidon is diverging positively from ArgoUML in features and professional impression. -- Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability
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            - You can model with ArgoUML (slow sloppy java) . Its actually a case tool, but I It supports most of UML and is free. Export to EPS or gif, I think. You have to get used to the UI but you can do everything (for creating UML diagrams) with it. http://argouml.tigris.org/ - DIA. something supposed to clone Visio. available on win32, too. open source stuff. I hate it. It is an ultimate user-agnostic experience (regarding GUI). you cannot resize UML elements. they are always as big as the text (they hold). This seems reasonable, but think about state diagrams. http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/ - Powerpoint You know it, and it works. It has no direct UML support (who cares). you have to buildup everything using primitives... But it works. Dia could be used in that way too. - UML Studio (pragsoft) Again a case tool, but not too expensive and with a slick UI. Its fun creating the diagrams. Ask bruce eckel for more stuff http://www.mindview.net/WebLog/log-0041 Bottom line: Use _your_ favourite drawing tool for the job. CASE sucks, anyway. I use argoUML just for diagrams and nothing else, and its ok. have fun ______________________________ Java: The living proof Moore's law won't solve all your problems

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            Ever tried resizing a Note shape in a Visio UML diagram? Hallelucination - when you think you see God

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              Compared to Poseidon, ArgoUML sucks. Gentleware claim they "support and monitor" the development of ArgoUML, but I must say that Poseidon is diverging positively from ArgoUML in features and professional impression. -- Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability
              to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable
              for their apparent disinclination to do so. (Douglas Adams)

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              Thanks for your insight - The original poster asked about a _diagram_ tool, poseidon is a diagram tool, CASE and even more. Its a different thing. He did not ask for any further features (CASE, integration etc) offered by the software. Of course, they might be nice and in fact so encouraging he might be interested in purchasing it. - I haven't encountered any problems /w ArgoUML and I will definitely look into Poseidon for UML _as_soon_ as I encounter some (I am not a heavy user and not doing CASE or using their other features) Enough said, every one do their **own** testdrive... ______________________________ Java: The living proof Moore's law won't solve all your problems

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              • P ProffK

                All I have at the moment is Visio, and it is especially tedious especially on a class diagram. Can anyone recommend a tool that is more suitable, at not too great a price?

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                You're going to get a million recommendations, but I think it's safe to say that there's not a better UML modeling tool within 10x of the price of Enterprise Architect ($150 for the Pro version). Enterprise Architect[^]

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                • P ProffK

                  Ever tried resizing a Note shape in a Visio UML diagram? Hallelucination - when you think you see God

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                  I turned away from visio as soon as I found out I could only set the drop shadow for *all* boxes in my drawing using the *page properties* Please, everyone do their own testdrive ______________________________ Java: The living proof Moore's law won't solve all your problems

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                    You're going to get a million recommendations, but I think it's safe to say that there's not a better UML modeling tool within 10x of the price of Enterprise Architect ($150 for the Pro version). Enterprise Architect[^]

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                    CoolDev wrote: I think it's safe to say that there's not a better UML modeling tool within 10x of the price of Enterprise Architect Absolutly agree. I highly recommend it! "Don't be so anti-american, would you? KaЯl (to Paul Watson on Baseball Bats) 26 Nov '03 "

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                    • P ProffK

                      All I have at the moment is Visio, and it is especially tedious especially on a class diagram. Can anyone recommend a tool that is more suitable, at not too great a price?

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                      Member 96
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                      Undoubtedly Enterprise Architect http://www.sparx.com[^] Excellent price, very nice features, a whole slew of people recommend it here every month that this question comes up. We are using right this moment to re-design a huge old c++ project into a sparkly new c# one with proper business objects etc etc.


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