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Anybody have an idea if or when MS will put tabs in the browser so you can have multiple pages open with out having multiple windows open like netscape and mozilla? Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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Anybody have an idea if or when MS will put tabs in the browser so you can have multiple pages open with out having multiple windows open like netscape and mozilla? Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
Jeff Patterson wrote: Anybody have an idea if or when MS will put tabs in the browser Knowing Microsoft it will be when Hell freezes over:laugh: John Hudson I want to see Gollum chomping Frodo's ring finger off and dipping it in Soy Sauce :wtf::eek: http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
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Anybody have an idea if or when MS will put tabs in the browser so you can have multiple pages open with out having multiple windows open like netscape and mozilla? Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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Unless you upgrade your OS, never. IE is frozen at version 6, SP 1. The only way you can upgrade IE at this point is to upgrade the whole OS (e.g., Longhorn.) No single raindrop believes that it is responsible for the flood.
I suppose that has everything to do with the anti-trust problems MS is having? That's too bad Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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Anybody have an idea if or when MS will put tabs in the browser so you can have multiple pages open with out having multiple windows open like netscape and mozilla? Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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I suppose that has everything to do with the anti-trust problems MS is having? That's too bad Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
No, IMHO, the IE freezing is reasonable on the marketing aspect. although high-risk. The browser is a major part of our computer use, today. Why give a better browser for free and then, have trouble trying to sell your brand new OS version? It's easier to freeze people on IE 6 SP1 + hotfixes and security patches, and if you want a better browsing experience, upgrade to Longhorn, or whatever it will be called in the future. I also see this as a high risk approach (but hey, they're MS, they're used to risks!), because if people don't upgrade the OS, MS can lose its dominant position on browser market: Mozilla & Firebird are seriously good (Firebird is what I use for 90% of my browsing needs now, and I used to be a fervorous IE fan) and can become a serious contender on the next 2 or 3 years (when Longhorn is expected to be launched). Add to it 1 or 2 years more to Longhorn sells some milion copies, and you'll have from 3 to 5 years without upgrading IE, giving plenty time for competitors. Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. -- Bruce Schneier By the way, dog_spawn isn't a nickname - it is my name with an underscore instead of a space. -- dog_spawn
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No need to wait. This one makes use of IE, and works like a dream. http://www.avantbrowser.com/[^]
I loaded it and it looks very nice. I'll give it a try. This seems to take about 16Mb of memory to run . This isn't much better then Netscape or Mozilla. The biggest reason for asking the question was to reduce my use of system resources. IE is using 30Mb now. Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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No, IMHO, the IE freezing is reasonable on the marketing aspect. although high-risk. The browser is a major part of our computer use, today. Why give a better browser for free and then, have trouble trying to sell your brand new OS version? It's easier to freeze people on IE 6 SP1 + hotfixes and security patches, and if you want a better browsing experience, upgrade to Longhorn, or whatever it will be called in the future. I also see this as a high risk approach (but hey, they're MS, they're used to risks!), because if people don't upgrade the OS, MS can lose its dominant position on browser market: Mozilla & Firebird are seriously good (Firebird is what I use for 90% of my browsing needs now, and I used to be a fervorous IE fan) and can become a serious contender on the next 2 or 3 years (when Longhorn is expected to be launched). Add to it 1 or 2 years more to Longhorn sells some milion copies, and you'll have from 3 to 5 years without upgrading IE, giving plenty time for competitors. Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. -- Bruce Schneier By the way, dog_spawn isn't a nickname - it is my name with an underscore instead of a space. -- dog_spawn
I am writing this from firebird. This is the fastest browser I have ever used. I am very impressed. Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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I loaded it and it looks very nice. I'll give it a try. This seems to take about 16Mb of memory to run . This isn't much better then Netscape or Mozilla. The biggest reason for asking the question was to reduce my use of system resources. IE is using 30Mb now. Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
My web browser doesn't take that much memory... (see sig) -Steven Hicks
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No, IMHO, the IE freezing is reasonable on the marketing aspect. although high-risk. The browser is a major part of our computer use, today. Why give a better browser for free and then, have trouble trying to sell your brand new OS version? It's easier to freeze people on IE 6 SP1 + hotfixes and security patches, and if you want a better browsing experience, upgrade to Longhorn, or whatever it will be called in the future. I also see this as a high risk approach (but hey, they're MS, they're used to risks!), because if people don't upgrade the OS, MS can lose its dominant position on browser market: Mozilla & Firebird are seriously good (Firebird is what I use for 90% of my browsing needs now, and I used to be a fervorous IE fan) and can become a serious contender on the next 2 or 3 years (when Longhorn is expected to be launched). Add to it 1 or 2 years more to Longhorn sells some milion copies, and you'll have from 3 to 5 years without upgrading IE, giving plenty time for competitors. Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. -- Bruce Schneier By the way, dog_spawn isn't a nickname - it is my name with an underscore instead of a space. -- dog_spawn
(just beating a dead horse here, move on, move on) Problem being that Longhorn is only going to be rolled out in enough locations in lets say 2008. That is 4 years of uncontested time for Mozilla and competitors to take the game away from MS. IE5/6 will still be strong but it will have lost a lot of the market plus Moz will have had actual field-play and feedback, not just internal testing. It is a shitty time for web-developers though, we are going to be locked on reasonable but not great CSS, DOM and HTML standards support while we see Moz doing fantastic stuff. One thing I do see happening is intranets and focused-environment web-apps shunning Internet Explorer as Moz rolls out the features. Who wants to bet MS will go back on their "IE6 SP1 is the last standalone browser" statement in 2006? Sure, not every feature of Longhorn Internet Explorer 7.0 will work outside of Longhorn, but enough should that a standalone, Windows 2000/XP supporting version should be released. People are not going to upgrade a whole OS just to get at a new browser. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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My web browser doesn't take that much memory... (see sig) -Steven Hicks
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shameless plug :-D I did download it. It is pretty fast. The install didn't like my Program Files being on D:\. I got an error but it was easily fixed and installed without any other problems. I'll give it a try Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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Jeff Patterson wrote: Anybody have an idea if or when MS will put tabs in the browser Knowing Microsoft it will be when Hell freezes over:laugh: John Hudson I want to see Gollum chomping Frodo's ring finger off and dipping it in Soy Sauce :wtf::eek: http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
Knowing the non-Microsofts, it will be exactly five microseconds before everybody will slap microsoft for "just trying to kill competition with monopoly yada yadda".
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I loaded it and it looks very nice. I'll give it a try. This seems to take about 16Mb of memory to run . This isn't much better then Netscape or Mozilla. The biggest reason for asking the question was to reduce my use of system resources. IE is using 30Mb now. Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
Jeff Patterson wrote: I loaded it and it looks very nice. I'll give it a try. This seems to take about 16Mb of memory to run . This isn't much better then Netscape or Mozilla. The biggest reason for asking the question was to reduce my use of system resources. IE is using 30Mb now. It is nice, but not the smallest, though it has been getting more effcient. If your wanting small an efficient, then have you tried Firebird? Its a mozilla spin off, but I think much has been rewritten. Its much more lightweight, and focuses soley on browsing. And it renders the CP DHTML a tread e.g. forums in dynamic mode. If I had not have found Avant first, I would probably be using firebird. Probably the only reason I still am is because of 2 things: 1) Favorites 2) I like to be able to click my mouse wheel to open a link in a new tab in the background. I like to be able to go to a news site, and click like mad on all the articles I want to read.
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No, IMHO, the IE freezing is reasonable on the marketing aspect. although high-risk. The browser is a major part of our computer use, today. Why give a better browser for free and then, have trouble trying to sell your brand new OS version? It's easier to freeze people on IE 6 SP1 + hotfixes and security patches, and if you want a better browsing experience, upgrade to Longhorn, or whatever it will be called in the future. I also see this as a high risk approach (but hey, they're MS, they're used to risks!), because if people don't upgrade the OS, MS can lose its dominant position on browser market: Mozilla & Firebird are seriously good (Firebird is what I use for 90% of my browsing needs now, and I used to be a fervorous IE fan) and can become a serious contender on the next 2 or 3 years (when Longhorn is expected to be launched). Add to it 1 or 2 years more to Longhorn sells some milion copies, and you'll have from 3 to 5 years without upgrading IE, giving plenty time for competitors. Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. -- Bruce Schneier By the way, dog_spawn isn't a nickname - it is my name with an underscore instead of a space. -- dog_spawn
Daniel Turini wrote: high risk approach Personally I use Opera, Firebird is impressive, but still not there IMHO, but once it is I will use it. I only use IE for CP. But I am sure the "average" user will use what comes with their PC, the risk is new browsers adding features, which IE 6 does not have and people such as these being forced to migrate, which will agrivate them.
"The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually fearing you will make one." - Elbert Hubbard