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    The minister of transport requests motorists to keep their lights on during the day. He obviously really overestimated the intelligence of his policing force, because he forgot to tell them that although the sun is out, it is not illegal to have your lights on. In true traffic police tradtion, they reacted against the Great Unknown by deciding to fine motorists driving with the headlights on.

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      The minister of transport requests motorists to keep their lights on during the day. He obviously really overestimated the intelligence of his policing force, because he forgot to tell them that although the sun is out, it is not illegal to have your lights on. In true traffic police tradtion, they reacted against the Great Unknown by deciding to fine motorists driving with the headlights on.

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      :laugh: Link? Or did you get the fine? :~ I was surprised to find that in Sweden it's illegal to drive in the day with your lights off - but at least in their climate it's understandable. But in bright, sunny SA? Is this specifically for the holiday season Arrive Alive campaign?


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        :laugh: Link? Or did you get the fine? :~ I was surprised to find that in Sweden it's illegal to drive in the day with your lights off - but at least in their climate it's understandable. But in bright, sunny SA? Is this specifically for the holiday season Arrive Alive campaign?


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        No link. It was on the Pretoria News front page. I remember a friend being in a roadbloack some years ago, and a Traffic Officer giving him grief because his lights were on. My biggest issue is the mentality that can even begin to think that having your lights on could possibly ever even be a minor offence. Aren't these guys trained in traffic law?

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          No link. It was on the Pretoria News front page. I remember a friend being in a roadbloack some years ago, and a Traffic Officer giving him grief because his lights were on. My biggest issue is the mentality that can even begin to think that having your lights on could possibly ever even be a minor offence. Aren't these guys trained in traffic law?

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          Colin Angus Mackay
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          I tend to automatically drive with my lights on because it makes the dashboard display clearer to read (especially on the many dreich days we have in Scotland). However, I noticed when driving in Spain a lot of other drivers signalled to me that my lights were on. As far as I'm concerned its no big deal so long as its not the full beams dazzling on coming drivers. --Colin Mackay--

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            I tend to automatically drive with my lights on because it makes the dashboard display clearer to read (especially on the many dreich days we have in Scotland). However, I noticed when driving in Spain a lot of other drivers signalled to me that my lights were on. As far as I'm concerned its no big deal so long as its not the full beams dazzling on coming drivers. --Colin Mackay--

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            It's becoming more common too. I don't drive but I do ride a motorbike, I feel that having my lights on gives generic sleeping at the wheel driver more chance of seeing me. All (as far as I am aware) 2004 model motorbikes have their lights on all the time as standard, as in you don't even get a lightswitch. (Note, this is coming from the UK) David Parrott

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              The minister of transport requests motorists to keep their lights on during the day. He obviously really overestimated the intelligence of his policing force, because he forgot to tell them that although the sun is out, it is not illegal to have your lights on. In true traffic police tradtion, they reacted against the Great Unknown by deciding to fine motorists driving with the headlights on.

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              This trend started in America a couple of decades ago because it was a well known road tactic to drive with your headlights on during the day to let oncoming traffic know that there was a speed trap ahead. Eventually, law enforcement started a campaign of "lights on for safety" encouraging people to drive with their lights on during the day to nullify this tactic. Eventually some automakers started making this a feature on cars so that they would stay on all the time, no doubt to the delight of the headlight manufacturers. In Florida, it's been law for a long time that you have to have your lights on when it rains, which makes practical sense. Requiring people to turn on headlights on a clear, bright, sunny day is pretty silly. At least until you understand the ulterior motives of how it began... Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                :laugh: Link? Or did you get the fine? :~ I was surprised to find that in Sweden it's illegal to drive in the day with your lights off - but at least in their climate it's understandable. But in bright, sunny SA? Is this specifically for the holiday season Arrive Alive campaign?


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                Meg's World - Blog Photography - The product of my passion

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                Megan Forbes wrote: was surprised to find that in Sweden it's illegal to drive in the day with your lights off - but at least in their climate it's understandable. But in bright, sunny SA? Is this specifically for the holiday season Arrive Alive campaign? It reflects a spirit of internationalization ;) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                  No link. It was on the Pretoria News front page. I remember a friend being in a roadbloack some years ago, and a Traffic Officer giving him grief because his lights were on. My biggest issue is the mentality that can even begin to think that having your lights on could possibly ever even be a minor offence. Aren't these guys trained in traffic law?

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                  ProffK wrote: My biggest issue is the mentality that can even begin to think that having your lights on could possibly ever even be a minor offence. Aren't these guys trained in traffic law? there are some bikes that has their light on by default and there is no way to turn them off. So, do you have to state them to your local police office, in case you have one of those in your possesion? :rolleyes: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                    This trend started in America a couple of decades ago because it was a well known road tactic to drive with your headlights on during the day to let oncoming traffic know that there was a speed trap ahead. Eventually, law enforcement started a campaign of "lights on for safety" encouraging people to drive with their lights on during the day to nullify this tactic. Eventually some automakers started making this a feature on cars so that they would stay on all the time, no doubt to the delight of the headlight manufacturers. In Florida, it's been law for a long time that you have to have your lights on when it rains, which makes practical sense. Requiring people to turn on headlights on a clear, bright, sunny day is pretty silly. At least until you understand the ulterior motives of how it began... Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote: In Florida, it's been law for a long time that you have to have your lights on when it rains, which makes practical sense. Requiring people to turn on headlights on a clear, bright, sunny day is pretty silly. At least until you understand the ulterior motives of how it began... I agree - there are a few other states that require your lights on when it's raining, or more specifically, when you have your wipers on (in some places, unlike Florida, there is this white, powdery stuff called snow). It's not about whether you can see, it's about making sure other people can see you! No single raindrop believes that it is responsible for the flood.

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                      This trend started in America a couple of decades ago because it was a well known road tactic to drive with your headlights on during the day to let oncoming traffic know that there was a speed trap ahead. Eventually, law enforcement started a campaign of "lights on for safety" encouraging people to drive with their lights on during the day to nullify this tactic. Eventually some automakers started making this a feature on cars so that they would stay on all the time, no doubt to the delight of the headlight manufacturers. In Florida, it's been law for a long time that you have to have your lights on when it rains, which makes practical sense. Requiring people to turn on headlights on a clear, bright, sunny day is pretty silly. At least until you understand the ulterior motives of how it began... Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                      Oh heavens no, they thwarted us by making us keep the lights on at all times! We normally flash our lights twice to indicate a speedtrap. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                        Oh heavens no, they thwarted us by making us keep the lights on at all times! We normally flash our lights twice to indicate a speedtrap. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                        Paul Watson wrote: We normally flash our lights twice to indicate a speedtrap. In the states, that tactic was the predecessor of leaving the lights on. The police started pulling people over and giving them "obstruction of justice" tickets for flashing the headlights, which was hard for the driver to otherwise justify. That then migrated to the tactic of leaving the lights on during the day, which was a bit less overt. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                          Paul Watson wrote: We normally flash our lights twice to indicate a speedtrap. In the states, that tactic was the predecessor of leaving the lights on. The police started pulling people over and giving them "obstruction of justice" tickets for flashing the headlights, which was hard for the driver to otherwise justify. That then migrated to the tactic of leaving the lights on during the day, which was a bit less overt. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                          Few cases of that here as well, has not really stopped people though. So many anti-speedtrap ideas have sprung up though. One involves SMSing speedtrap locations to a website. The website then publishes it. Then, if you have GPS in your car, you can get a little app which beeps when you are nearing a known speedtrap location. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                            Few cases of that here as well, has not really stopped people though. So many anti-speedtrap ideas have sprung up though. One involves SMSing speedtrap locations to a website. The website then publishes it. Then, if you have GPS in your car, you can get a little app which beeps when you are nearing a known speedtrap location. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                            Of course, I'm philosophically opposed to all such things, since they constitute methods of breaking the law. The only reason I have a radar detector in the Vette is to impress girls with the neat flashing lights. Really. Paul Watson wrote: Einstein says... :laugh: :applause: :laugh: Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                              Oh heavens no, they thwarted us by making us keep the lights on at all times! We normally flash our lights twice to indicate a speedtrap. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                              i can't do that with my car, since the lights are on whenever the emergency brake is off - and there's no way to turn them off. i suppose i could pull the brake twice, quickly, while zipping down the highway ... :) ClickPic | ImgSource | CheeseWeasle

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                                i can't do that with my car, since the lights are on whenever the emergency brake is off - and there's no way to turn them off. i suppose i could pull the brake twice, quickly, while zipping down the highway ... :) ClickPic | ImgSource | CheeseWeasle

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                                You can blip from low to high beam and back, right? and lol, a hand-break slide on the freeway might be fun :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                                  You can blip from low to high beam and back, right? and lol, a hand-break slide on the freeway might be fun :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                                  Paul Watson wrote: You can blip from low to high beam and back, right? yeah, but where i'm from that means "hey, your brights are on!!!" ClickPic | ImgSource | CheeseWeasle

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                                    This trend started in America a couple of decades ago because it was a well known road tactic to drive with your headlights on during the day to let oncoming traffic know that there was a speed trap ahead. Eventually, law enforcement started a campaign of "lights on for safety" encouraging people to drive with their lights on during the day to nullify this tactic. Eventually some automakers started making this a feature on cars so that they would stay on all the time, no doubt to the delight of the headlight manufacturers. In Florida, it's been law for a long time that you have to have your lights on when it rains, which makes practical sense. Requiring people to turn on headlights on a clear, bright, sunny day is pretty silly. At least until you understand the ulterior motives of how it began... Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                    I read once about an Italian T-shirt company, who made white shirts with a black diagonal stripe, so drivers could get away without wearing their seat belts.:doh: "For all of our languages, we cannot communicate" - Christy Moore, Natives

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                                      :laugh: Link? Or did you get the fine? :~ I was surprised to find that in Sweden it's illegal to drive in the day with your lights off - but at least in their climate it's understandable. But in bright, sunny SA? Is this specifically for the holiday season Arrive Alive campaign?


                                      Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
                                      Meg's World - Blog Photography - The product of my passion

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                                      l a u r e n
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                                      megan there was a story about it on www.iol.co.za[^] a couple of days ago ... im sure u can dig it up if u look its completely retarded and soooooo south african :laugh:


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                                        Few cases of that here as well, has not really stopped people though. So many anti-speedtrap ideas have sprung up though. One involves SMSing speedtrap locations to a website. The website then publishes it. Then, if you have GPS in your car, you can get a little app which beeps when you are nearing a known speedtrap location. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                                        Nothing beats a number plate mounted laser detector. I believe they're available in the good old US of A for about $200. That and ABS brakes, oh yeah!

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