will the Bush admin show some restrain?

mystro_AKA_kokie

JWood wrote:According to FAS, they haven't had much luck in putting together a program in any case. They just don't have the techical expertise. They wanted to buy a reactor from the Russian's then it was too complicated so they wanted to buy one from the Belgians, who backed off from USA pressure. This was all in the 80's anyways. which begs the question, why are they giving him so much attention? it occured to me that the two iraq allies(britian and america) are the ones to whom this seem to be a big deal.Isn't everyone just a little sick of the WMD noise?given the fact that nothing has materilized uptil now. It's a sh*tty world. Take advantage of whomever,whenever,whereever. And oh.. becarefull what you say to me,am too sensitive.Or i might just show up at your house.i retract the latter,am trying to be a better person.

JWood

I think they are crowing about it to make the other so-called terrorist states (Syria, Palestine, Iran, etc) follow suit. But probly not gonna happen with Israel quietly sitting on 100 slightly disassembled nucular missiles. SHhhh don't tell anyone.

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mystro_AKA_kokie

JWood Wrote:I think they are crowing about it to make the other so-called terrorist states (Syria, Palestine, Iran, etc) follow suit. But probly not gonna happen with Israel quietly sitting on 100 slightly disassembled nucular missiles. SHhhh don't tell anyone. or could it be that both guys(blair and bush) are facing re-election soon and need to keep something hot on the agenda.:) are my being too scenical. It's a sh*tty world. Take advantage of whomever,whenever,whereever. And oh.. becarefull what you say to me,am too sensitive.Or i might just show up at your house.i retract the latter,am trying to be a better person.

Jorgen Sigvardsson

JWood wrote: with Israel quietly sitting on 100 slightly disassembled nucular missiles And with the butcher in power, that figure is not going to shrink either. -- "We shall crush you down to the point, where there is no coming back, things will happen to you from which you could not recover if you lived a thousand years, a thousand years."

Tomaz Stih 0

I wouldn't worry. Bush knows how to deal with these guys. Just look at Iraq. The French, Russians and Germans would have UN embrace a dictator and Bush ignored them effectively eliminating Hussein from power. As a result Gadafi practically surrendered to the UN. That's the success. But Europeans seem in big troubles now. Turkey listened to France and Germany and did not prepare for war against terrorism thinking that by preventing the northern front it would be spared. This mistake costed them a lot of lives. Let's hope this was the last dictator France and Germany embraced. Remember - Saddam Hussein in a Soviet invention in the first place. It was armed by Soviets and French and he only got military intelligence from the US. So these European countries have history of really bad choices. Tomaz

Jorgen Sigvardsson

Quit lying. France and Germany did not embrace Hussein. You've got to be on some very strong medication if you're under that impression. -- "We shall crush you down to the point, where there is no coming back, things will happen to you from which you could not recover if you lived a thousand years, a thousand years."

DRHuff

Embrace him - no. But if they had got their way he would still be dropping people into shredders.

retZ

tstih wrote: Let's hope this was the last dictator France and Germany embraced cough..cough...were General Musharaf of Pakistan and King Fahd of Saudi Arabia voted to power by popular vote ??...cough..cough ... There are no failures; there are only extended learning opportunities.

Jorgen Sigvardsson

They aren't leftist, hence they are good enough for Mr tsih. -- "We shall crush you down to the point, where there is no coming back, things will happen to you from which you could not recover if you lived a thousand years, a thousand years."

Stan Shannon

tstih wrote: So these European countries have history of really bad choices. You've got that right!

Tomaz Stih 0

But they did. And not just by supporting the regime in the United Nations (of course not by saying "we support regime", but by saying "we are against overthrowing the regime"), but by supporting terrorists and insurgents by vicious anti-american propaganda and self imposed censorship. That's how it really was. The media were full of hysteria, the television shows airing fabricated lies and promoting distorted historical facts. It went so far that France's lumpen proletarian thugs were insulting American and British tourists and Chirac was criticising small Eastern European countries for not "keeping their mouth shut". It was a Goebbels like campaign. It was transparent hatred, intolerance and brainwashing by the left. A new Kristallnacht where the imperialist turbo capitalist neo darwinist American pig was "embodied evil", and the darkest socialist regimes such as Allendes' were defended with epistemological relativism (of course, denied to the leader of the free world, not that it would need one). Europe was really very close to nazional socialism and I think we should discuss this now and not try to hide it under the carpet and pretend that it never happened. Tomaz

Tomaz Stih 0

I don't see France and Germany attacking them? Do you? Tomaz

Tomaz Stih 0

They are dictators that should be removed from power. Let's now return to the real world and discuss their removal without bringing even worse dictator in power? Any constructive ideas? ... ...well, thank you anyway, Tomaz

brianwelsch

zeta_theking wrote: Please wise-up Americans. You're right, we should discourage disarming. :~

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Terry ONolley

Libya has admitted they have WMD. We have seen it. Between now and the time the UN inspectors get there Libya could dump it all in a hole in the desert. Would that mean then that it never existed? Because that is what the brainiacs are saying about Saddam's WMD.

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Terry ONolley

Good luck trying to get certain people here from believing the truth. Thy never even acknowledge the fact that French and Russian military advisors were identified fleeing Iraq like rats leaving a sinking ship the day before the bombs started flying.

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brianwelsch wrote: You're right, we should discourage disarming. Let's encourage it; but let us also not be lulled into thinking that just because they say they will do something that they will actually do it *cough* North Korea *cough*. James "When you get frunk whats really fuinny is that you dont really realize you are cdtrunk till you are too drunk and by thewn you are too drunk to give a damn about being drubnk :-0" A drunk Nish over Sonork

retZ

but with a gazillion spy satellites hanging above these countries which supposedly pick up even "mobile labs" could such large scale hole digging be going on ??..dont u think the inspectors could drive down straight to the Hole as soon as their jets touch down on the tarmac in Tripoli International ??? There are no failures; there are only extended learning opportunities.

Daniel Ferguson

Terry O'Nolley wrote: dump it all in a hole in the desert Are you saying the US Army isn't smart enough to find a large, recent excavation? Not even with the help of satellite photos, metal detectors, etc. [edit] and knowledge -- before the invasion started -- about these supposed WMDs [/edit]

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JWood

I'm not saying they haven't tried to obtain them and perhaps had some success with chemical weapons (not nuclear, though), I am just saying that they are not technically skilled enough to be a really, really big threat.

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