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Could this be a new way to limit spam?

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    3ddA
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    I've been thinking of a possible way to limit spam, what to you think about this idea: http://www.albert.nu/idea/defeatspam.htm Any comments?

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      I've been thinking of a possible way to limit spam, what to you think about this idea: http://www.albert.nu/idea/defeatspam.htm Any comments?

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      Colin Angus Mackay
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        I've been thinking of a possible way to limit spam, what to you think about this idea: http://www.albert.nu/idea/defeatspam.htm Any comments?

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        Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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        I cant see this being very practical. Imagine a websie such as CP, which has to send out a lot of emails :omg:


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          I cant see this being very practical. Imagine a websie such as CP, which has to send out a lot of emails :omg:


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          Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote: Imagine a websie such as CP Yeah, and it's even mentioned in the text: Alice sends her message to Bob. Bob receives the message but instead of reading it a puzzle is sent to Alice. Alice receives the puzzle, calculates the solution and sends it to Bob. When Bob receives a correct solution the mail is regarded as a valid incoming message. :-D Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318

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            Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote: Imagine a websie such as CP Yeah, and it's even mentioned in the text: Alice sends her message to Bob. Bob receives the message but instead of reading it a puzzle is sent to Alice. Alice receives the puzzle, calculates the solution and sends it to Bob. When Bob receives a correct solution the mail is regarded as a valid incoming message. :-D Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318

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            Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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            lol :-D


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              I've been thinking of a possible way to limit spam, what to you think about this idea: http://www.albert.nu/idea/defeatspam.htm Any comments?

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              Nick Seng
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              Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't this one of the encryption techniques. I can't remember the name of the technique, but I'm sure I remember something like that in Data Encryption class, way back when. :~


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                I cant see this being very practical. Imagine a websie such as CP, which has to send out a lot of emails :omg:


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                3ddA
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                If you want the CP mail you have them on your "trusted" list and no problem is sent, the mail goes directly to your incomming box. Otherwise you send them a problem if CP thinks their message is important enough the will solve the puzzle, if not you got rid of a spam message. The main point is that you can determine the "cost" of sending an email to you. This still makes it possible for you lokal shop to send say a couple of thousand emails with offers to their customers or for CP to send out an important message. But it makes it impossible to send out millions of messages to everybody.

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                  I've been thinking of a possible way to limit spam, what to you think about this idea: http://www.albert.nu/idea/defeatspam.htm Any comments?

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                  This solution doesn’t eliminate the spam problem entirely because the spammer can also calculate the solution the problem, but since solving the puzzle take so much more time than just sending mails it would reduce the amount of spam considerably Your logic escapes me here. Nothing about your idea addresses the issue that a spammer doesn't care that the email sent is never read. The spammer has been paid to email 100,000,000,000 messages. They accomplish that and their job is done. Nothing about your idea is going to interfere or change this. Eventually people are going to realize that email spam is a fact of life. Just like rainy days. :) Chris Meech It's much easier to get rich telling people what they want to hear. Chistopher Duncan I can't help getting older, but I refuse to grow up. Roger Wright I've been meaning to change my sig. Thanks! Alvaro Mendez We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton

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                    This solution doesn’t eliminate the spam problem entirely because the spammer can also calculate the solution the problem, but since solving the puzzle take so much more time than just sending mails it would reduce the amount of spam considerably Your logic escapes me here. Nothing about your idea addresses the issue that a spammer doesn't care that the email sent is never read. The spammer has been paid to email 100,000,000,000 messages. They accomplish that and their job is done. Nothing about your idea is going to interfere or change this. Eventually people are going to realize that email spam is a fact of life. Just like rainy days. :) Chris Meech It's much easier to get rich telling people what they want to hear. Chistopher Duncan I can't help getting older, but I refuse to grow up. Roger Wright I've been meaning to change my sig. Thanks! Alvaro Mendez We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton

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                    Chris Meech wrote: Your logic escapes me here. Nothing about your idea addresses the issue that a spammer doesn't care that the email sent is never read. The spammer has been paid to email 100,000,000,000 messages. They accomplish that and their job is done. Nothing about your idea is going to interfere or change this. My consept is only going to kill spam in the same way the cost of a stamp rids you of spam from Sweden :). Those who want to send the spam must invest more effort to send the mails and the cost is higher for them. Since the cost is higher they must limit the people the send to. Some sorting still has to be done (as you sort you real mailbox), but the system would bring balance to system by adding cost to the sender. As I've said before the beautiful part is that you can determine the cost to send you a message (set the price of the stamp) and by doing that the system can be really effective. For greatest effect the system should be combined with classic spam detection, suspected spammers would get problems that would take an hour to solve. Sometimes a false hit would cause that to happen to someone unknown sending me a real message, but not very often (and it would still only cost him some extra money on the electricity bill).

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                      This solution doesn’t eliminate the spam problem entirely because the spammer can also calculate the solution the problem, but since solving the puzzle take so much more time than just sending mails it would reduce the amount of spam considerably Your logic escapes me here. Nothing about your idea addresses the issue that a spammer doesn't care that the email sent is never read. The spammer has been paid to email 100,000,000,000 messages. They accomplish that and their job is done. Nothing about your idea is going to interfere or change this. Eventually people are going to realize that email spam is a fact of life. Just like rainy days. :) Chris Meech It's much easier to get rich telling people what they want to hear. Chistopher Duncan I can't help getting older, but I refuse to grow up. Roger Wright I've been meaning to change my sig. Thanks! Alvaro Mendez We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton

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                      Chris Meech wrote: Eventually people are going to realize that email spam is a fact of life. Like advertisment in your snail mailbox. Only, without the trees.

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                        I've been thinking of a possible way to limit spam, what to you think about this idea: http://www.albert.nu/idea/defeatspam.htm Any comments?

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                        Kentamanos
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                        I prefer a solution where the sender has to manually do something to make the email go through. The classic example is sending the sender a graphic with some text that cannot be OCR'd. They have to visually inspect it and reply with that text.


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                          I've been thinking of a possible way to limit spam, what to you think about this idea: http://www.albert.nu/idea/defeatspam.htm Any comments?

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                          Scott Danley
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                          And the spammer spoofs the address so that another organization is under attack computing the solutions to the puzzles. :omg:

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