Windows XP and Ctrl+Alt+Del at Logon

Lost User

Roger Wright wrote: Are you using the simplified file sharing method for security? I've found that this changes the behavior of XP badly, and it's the default setting. If so, disable it and force everyone to use passwords. That might restore the screens you should expect from this article's descriptions. First two things I change on every XP box I touch, doubly so for my own machines. Still not doing as I expect. Roger Wright wrote: If you already use the traditional username/password logon, then I haven't a clue - maybe a service pack since the article was written has changed something. I have yet to see a XP machine that uses this logon box, though, so it probably isn't something easy to change. :sigh: To change it so the user id/password box is used is as follows. Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Change the way users log on or off -> Uncheck Use the Welcome screen It seems that when I connect an XP machine setup this way to a domain the Ctrl+Alt+Del feature appears. Haven't done it for a few months so am not completely sure my memory serves me well and of course no domain handy to test this on. Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003

Roger Wright

The docs I have refer to it explicitly as something that's added when connecting to a domain, but never mention it when discussing a Workgroup. It may be that this is simply not available unless you're part of a domain. "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

Sebastian Benitez

You could try this. But first I have to say that my XP is in spanish, so I will have to translate all I've found to english, which might not be the same as your XP. Go to Start menu, then to Administration Tools, then click on Local Security Directives or something like that. A window will open. Select Security options from the tree. In the list panel you will see a lot of strings with options. Look for some that says Interactive session init or something like that, it should have a Ctrl+Alt+Del appended to it. Then try setting it to disabled. Because it is negated, I think you should put there disabled, which in turn should activate the Ctrl+Alt+Del in the login screen. "semper aliquid haeret", Bacon. -- Sebastián.

Lost User

Sebastian, thanks very much for your response. I found the area you were talking about and and have made the change but will have to wait a few hours before I can reboot the machine to test it as I am in the middle of a large download. I will list the steps I took below to help any other people using the English version of Windows XP find their way through.

Go to Control Panel
Double Click Administrative Tools
Double Click Local Security Policy
Click the + next to Local Policies
Click Security Options
Double Click Interactive logon:Do not require CTRL+ALT+DEL
Click Disabled
Click Apply
Click OK

Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003

Lost User

Check out the post by Sebastian Benitez and my reply to him below. May be a useful trick to put in the kitbag as you start to run into more and more XP machines. Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003

Roger Wright

That looks like it should do the trick. Local and Global Policies are areas where I rarely tread; I'd never think to look there!:-D Happy New Year, btw! :jig: "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

Roger Wright

Definitely! But what I need is a better bag of tricks to store these little tidbits in. That's what the MS Knowledge Base is supposed to be for, but it's getting harder and harder to find anything relevant in it. "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

Lost User

Roger Wright wrote: That looks like it should do the trick. Local and Global Policies are areas where I rarely tread; I'd never think to look there! :-D Happy to report it did do the trick. Roger Wright wrote: Happy New Year, btw! :jig: Thanks, same to you, as by my piss poor calculations it should be about 1:25AM over there about now. Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003

Sebastian Benitez

You can learn much just touching here and there :D "semper aliquid haeret", Bacon. -- Sebastián.

Matt Newman

There is an easy way. I am on a domain so I can't give you the exact wording, but under User Accounts there should be something about changing the way users log on and off. Its the same place you enable/disable fast user switching. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls

Lost User

Matt Newman wrote: There is an easy way. I am on a domain so I can't give you the exact wording, but under User Accounts there should be something about changing the way users log on and off. Its the same place you enable/disable fast user switching. Thanks Matt, that's the same one I'm talking about when I see the Use the Welcome screen option. The couple of times I have gotten to setup on a computer on a domain it was probabaly one that had a global policy in effect that required the use of Ctrl+Alt+Del. Which is why I never saw the option and didn't know where to find it. From what I have seen so far Sebastian's way seems to be the only one. Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003

Matt Newman

Actually a domain computer can't use the welcome screen by adding it to a domain it is automatically turned off. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls

Anonymous

Can't do it...you need to be part of a domain to get the Ctrl+Alt+Del window to appear.

Lost User

Anonymous wrote: Can't do it...you need to be part of a domain to get the Ctrl+Alt+Del window to appear. Not true, have a look at the Sebastian Benitez reply, he told me how to do it. Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003