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Is ET God?

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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    post this in the soapboax as you would be able to feel the full force of the righteous, burning your article reference into a pile of charcoal. :) -- You copy and paste yourself into my brain. You always find your way back into my brain.

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    Jon Newman
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    Maybe if it stays in the lounge people will be forced to have a sensible discussion? Anything that goes in the soapbox soon gets turned into anarchy.


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    • J Jon Newman

      Every so often on the net you find a real gem. This article is from the 'Scientific American' site (oxymoron?). "Shermer's Last Law". "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" Clickety [^] Extract: God is typically described by Western religions as omniscient and omnipotent. Because we are far from possessing these traits, how can we possibly distinguish a God who has them absolutely from an ETI who merely has them copiously relative to us? We can't. But if God were only relatively more knowing and powerful than we are, then by definition the deity would be an ETI!


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      Michael P Butler
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      Well in the movie, the general theme would indicate the ET was Jesus, he arrives, he's persecuted, he dies, he's ressurected, he leaves but tells us he'll always be with us.... oops, you're talking factual ET's rather then the movie. Sorry ;-) Michael Look at what's happened to me-, I can't believe it myself. Suddenly I'm up on top of the world, It should've been somebody else. - The Greatest American Hero (1981)

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      • J Jon Newman

        Every so often on the net you find a real gem. This article is from the 'Scientific American' site (oxymoron?). "Shermer's Last Law". "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" Clickety [^] Extract: God is typically described by Western religions as omniscient and omnipotent. Because we are far from possessing these traits, how can we possibly distinguish a God who has them absolutely from an ETI who merely has them copiously relative to us? We can't. But if God were only relatively more knowing and powerful than we are, then by definition the deity would be an ETI!


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        Marc Clifton
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        You know how we have "separation of church and state" (at least in the US)? Well, there should also be a "separation of church and science". What a load of faulty reasoning that article is. Just confirms why I killed my SciAm subscription 20 years ago. Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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          Well in the movie, the general theme would indicate the ET was Jesus, he arrives, he's persecuted, he dies, he's ressurected, he leaves but tells us he'll always be with us.... oops, you're talking factual ET's rather then the movie. Sorry ;-) Michael Look at what's happened to me-, I can't believe it myself. Suddenly I'm up on top of the world, It should've been somebody else. - The Greatest American Hero (1981)

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          Marc Clifton
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          You know, I never realized that. :-O 5! Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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          • M Michael P Butler

            Well in the movie, the general theme would indicate the ET was Jesus, he arrives, he's persecuted, he dies, he's ressurected, he leaves but tells us he'll always be with us.... oops, you're talking factual ET's rather then the movie. Sorry ;-) Michael Look at what's happened to me-, I can't believe it myself. Suddenly I'm up on top of the world, It should've been somebody else. - The Greatest American Hero (1981)

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            Jon Newman
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            Clickety Look down at the list of 'parallels' between the two lives. :)


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            • M Marc Clifton

              You know how we have "separation of church and state" (at least in the US)? Well, there should also be a "separation of church and science". What a load of faulty reasoning that article is. Just confirms why I killed my SciAm subscription 20 years ago. Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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              Jon Newman
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              Thats so hypocritical I'm not even going to argue with that here. :)


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              • J Jon Newman

                Every so often on the net you find a real gem. This article is from the 'Scientific American' site (oxymoron?). "Shermer's Last Law". "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" Clickety [^] Extract: God is typically described by Western religions as omniscient and omnipotent. Because we are far from possessing these traits, how can we possibly distinguish a God who has them absolutely from an ETI who merely has them copiously relative to us? We can't. But if God were only relatively more knowing and powerful than we are, then by definition the deity would be an ETI!


                Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]

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                Bruce Duncan
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                Jonny Newman wrote: "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" This sounds an awful lot like this quote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

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                • B Bruce Duncan

                  Jonny Newman wrote: "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" This sounds an awful lot like this quote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

                  Searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  Bruce Duncan wrote: Arthur C. Clarke Ah Hah!!! I knew I'd heard it somewhere before! --Colin Mackay--

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                  • J Jon Newman

                    Every so often on the net you find a real gem. This article is from the 'Scientific American' site (oxymoron?). "Shermer's Last Law". "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" Clickety [^] Extract: God is typically described by Western religions as omniscient and omnipotent. Because we are far from possessing these traits, how can we possibly distinguish a God who has them absolutely from an ETI who merely has them copiously relative to us? We can't. But if God were only relatively more knowing and powerful than we are, then by definition the deity would be an ETI!


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                    brianwelsch
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                    But if God were only relatively more knowing and powerful than we are, then by definition the deity would be an ETI! By definition God is an ETI regardless of relative knowledge.:~ If God is our Creator, then it would be quite difficult for God to have been from this Earth, and so would have to be an ETI. Jonny Newman wrote: "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" Brilliant :rolleyes: BW CP Member Homepages


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                    • B Bruce Duncan

                      Jonny Newman wrote: "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" This sounds an awful lot like this quote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

                      Searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
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                      Its in the first paragraph of the article :)


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                      • J Jon Newman

                        Every so often on the net you find a real gem. This article is from the 'Scientific American' site (oxymoron?). "Shermer's Last Law". "Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God" Clickety [^] Extract: God is typically described by Western religions as omniscient and omnipotent. Because we are far from possessing these traits, how can we possibly distinguish a God who has them absolutely from an ETI who merely has them copiously relative to us? We can't. But if God were only relatively more knowing and powerful than we are, then by definition the deity would be an ETI!


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                        nssone
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                        You've obviously never seen the movie or series Stargate, in which aliens are the models for almost every popular ancient diety, including some Asian dieties. It's a very good series and is well written with the exception of a few episode here and there. I used to think if the stories of Jesus happened the way they did, then he would have to have been a human/alien hybrid project.


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                        • J Jon Newman

                          Its in the first paragraph of the article :)


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                          Bruce Duncan
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                          Doh! Busted! I didn't actually read the article... :-O

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                            You've obviously never seen the movie or series Stargate, in which aliens are the models for almost every popular ancient diety, including some Asian dieties. It's a very good series and is well written with the exception of a few episode here and there. I used to think if the stories of Jesus happened the way they did, then he would have to have been a human/alien hybrid project.


                            Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com

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                            Jon Newman
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                            I've actually seen Stargate the movie at least 10 times, and watched every single episode of SG1. I also made a post here a few months back about how they used some C# code in a season 7 episode. So ;P


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                              Well in the movie, the general theme would indicate the ET was Jesus, he arrives, he's persecuted, he dies, he's ressurected, he leaves but tells us he'll always be with us.... oops, you're talking factual ET's rather then the movie. Sorry ;-) Michael Look at what's happened to me-, I can't believe it myself. Suddenly I'm up on top of the world, It should've been somebody else. - The Greatest American Hero (1981)

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                              Michael P Butler wrote: Well in the movie, the general theme would indicate the ET was Jesus, he arrives, he's persecuted, he dies, he's ressurected, he leaves but tells us he'll always be with us.... If he didn't shave off his beard for the movie he would be indistinguishable from all those pictures hanging around churches. Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003

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                                I've actually seen Stargate the movie at least 10 times, and watched every single episode of SG1. I also made a post here a few months back about how they used some C# code in a season 7 episode. So ;P


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                                nssone
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                                Well, if you were such a fan of it, then I would've thought you'd mention something about it with a thread like this.


                                Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com

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