Nuclear proliferation
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Christian Graus wrote: just a lot of people within the USA are pretty damn stupid. Yeah, no other countries have stupid people.:doh:
where did he say that? ClickPic | ImgSource | CheeseWeasle
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Yes we do, but we keep them where we can keep an eye on them - in Slough. ;P Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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At the risk of cementing my reputation as a "Stupid American", i must ask - surely you mean something other than "we keep our stupid people in the swamp"...? :~ Z
no one puts flowers
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Shog9 wrote: At the risk of cementing my reputation as a "Stupid American", i must ask - surely you mean something other than "we keep our stupid people in the swamp"...? Nope. There's a town called Slough not too far out of London. I myself live just far enough away from it not to be affected by the stupid-radiation-field caused by the inhabitants :-) Slough is also the locale for the BBC comedy "The Office" :-D But to be fair, I don't think most Brits want to know about Slough, so an American not knowing about it at all isn't really a sign of stupidity :-) -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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At the risk of cementing my reputation as a "Stupid American", i must ask - surely you mean something other than "we keep our stupid people in the swamp"...? :~ Z
no one puts flowers
on a flower's grave
http://www.slough.gov.uk/[^] I rest my case. Forget the flashy council website, visit the place and you'll see why Sir John Betjeman[^] didn't think much of it. P.S. I used to live in Maidenhead (lit: where we keep female virgins until they're old enough to venture out) so I'm of course biased... ;P Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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http://www.slough.gov.uk/[^] I rest my case. Forget the flashy council website, visit the place and you'll see why Sir John Betjeman[^] didn't think much of it. P.S. I used to live in Maidenhead (lit: where we keep female virgins until they're old enough to venture out) so I'm of course biased... ;P Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: _http://www.slough.gov.uk/\[^\]_ Yuck :-) It's like being stuck in bad childrens TV, but has no redeeming features whatsoever, like Gordon The Gopher -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: _http://www.slough.gov.uk/\[^\]_ Yuck :-) It's like being stuck in bad childrens TV, but has no redeeming features whatsoever, like Gordon The Gopher -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
LMAO! :laugh: And the worst bit is what you see is only the beginning. Scary. :~ Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Brit wrote: Looks like Dr. Khan (father of the Pakistani nuclear program) is connected to the nuclear programs of North Korea, China, Iran, Iraq, and Libya. I wish all of them have nuclear bombs and they declare it .. so that there is peace in US's dumb ASSSS.. if US has right to have Nuclear bombs then y dont any other country has the same right??? everyone has a right to defend itself.. US couldnt find even single WMD in Iraq. If Iraq had nuclear weapons, US would have never invaded it because of fear. So now NUKES are becoming necessary for one's sovereignity.. Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
Yes, you're right. Why shouldn't the world's most volatile region have nukes? Just because it's ruled by a rotating sequence of dictators, theocracies, and extremists is no reason they shouldn't have nukes. Just because Saddam Hussein kills hundreds of thousands of his own people doesn't mean he can't be trusted with nukes. Just because Syria killed 30,000+ people in the city of Hama[^ doesn't mean they aren't responsible leaders. Here in the US, we allow people to have guns. But we don't allow felons to have guns. Now, I'm sure that, just like you, the felons are complaining "This is bullshit. Other people get to have guns." You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize how straight forward and levelheaded the "felons cannot have guns" idea is. Yet, when it comes to the idea of nukes in the Middle East, you all want to say, "This is bullshit. Other people get to have nukes." And it sounds just as stupid as when the felons say it. If you'd pull your head out of your ass long enough to notice that you're only acting on nationalistic tendencies, rather than any approximation of logic you'd know that nuclear proliferation is a problem and nuclear proliferation in the Middle East is the biggest part of that problem. ------------------------------------------ Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. In any debate, Hitler's opinion on the subject is automatically the evil one, so it had better be contrary to the side you're arguing.
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Yes, you're right. Why shouldn't the world's most volatile region have nukes? Just because it's ruled by a rotating sequence of dictators, theocracies, and extremists is no reason they shouldn't have nukes. Just because Saddam Hussein kills hundreds of thousands of his own people doesn't mean he can't be trusted with nukes. Just because Syria killed 30,000+ people in the city of Hama[^ doesn't mean they aren't responsible leaders. Here in the US, we allow people to have guns. But we don't allow felons to have guns. Now, I'm sure that, just like you, the felons are complaining "This is bullshit. Other people get to have guns." You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize how straight forward and levelheaded the "felons cannot have guns" idea is. Yet, when it comes to the idea of nukes in the Middle East, you all want to say, "This is bullshit. Other people get to have nukes." And it sounds just as stupid as when the felons say it. If you'd pull your head out of your ass long enough to notice that you're only acting on nationalistic tendencies, rather than any approximation of logic you'd know that nuclear proliferation is a problem and nuclear proliferation in the Middle East is the biggest part of that problem. ------------------------------------------ Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. In any debate, Hitler's opinion on the subject is automatically the evil one, so it had better be contrary to the side you're arguing.
u people call yourself responsible???? huh... targeting Japan's two cities with your NUKES?? US is supporting ISRAEL to kill innocent child in palestine.[^] ISRAEL has nukes but u dont bother about it.. u call them responsible???????????? huh shame on you.. why do u call IRAN irresponsible?? just because they dont give a shit to you.. or they openly apppose Israeli policies.. The university where i am studying was founded by Dr. Khan i.e Father of Pakistani Nuclear bomb.. and i personally know people from Pakistan Atomic Energy commission who were somehow associated with Pakistan's nuclear program.. and i feel proud of them. US imposed sanctions on my univ in past due to link with Pakistani Nuclear program and research work done on missile and nuclear tech in univ (according to them).. There is not even a single course on nuclear physics taught in this univ.. NOW people from here are serving around the world.. and yes i am proud of this connection.. Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
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Even if you're potentially right (my knowledge on this subject is too limited to be more affirmative), I don't see how this could be an apology for the behaviour of ISI, especially with its relationship with Al-qaeda.
Le temps se perd, "Si" n'existe pas Tous les remords n'y changeront rien Le temps se perd, "Si" n'existe pas Donc à présent le choix reste mien
Kaßl wrote: Even if you're potentially right He is wrong lying. It's ridiculous to even suggest that India would commit acts of terrorism on its own people. Bah! Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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IT IS INDIA , not the PAKISTAN which is center of terror.. the terror they have created in State of Jammu and kashmir, supressing innocent people to live under their rule without their will, killing dozens of innocent kashmiris daily.. PAKISTAN has to work on NUCLEAR weapons just becuase of these terrorist acts of INDIA; to defend itself against any such evil power. and talking about USA, why dont they take any action against ISRAEL when it is supressing people of palestine???? Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
Why don't you try to take your head out of your butt and breathe some fresh air? Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Why don't you try to take your head out of your butt and breathe some fresh air? Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
well i always breath in fresh air.. but i guess u need to take ur mouth out of your LORD mother COW's shit and eat something better.. or may b u have lost ur senses with its baaad smell Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
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Why don't you try to take your head out of your butt and breathe some fresh air? Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
well i always breath in fresh air.. but i guess u need to take ur mouth out of your LORD mother COW's shit and eat something better.. or may b u have lost ur senses with its baaad smell Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
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Kaßl wrote: Even if you're potentially right He is wrong lying. It's ridiculous to even suggest that India would commit acts of terrorism on its own people. Bah! Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
Honestly, I'm not aware enough to be able to have an opinion on this subject. However, it would be really good if India and Pakistan were able to settle their problems a civilized way, I mean, without any guerilla or armed conflict. Generations will probably needed to people from both sides to forget their negative feeling toward the other, but it has to start now. IMHO, of course.
Le temps se perd, "Si" n'existe pas Tous les remords n'y changeront rien Le temps se perd, "Si" n'existe pas Donc à présent le choix reste mien
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well i always breath in fresh air.. but i guess u need to take ur mouth out of your LORD mother COW's shit and eat something better.. or may b u have lost ur senses with its baaad smell Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
What a lame comeback. :| M.Shoaib Khan wrote: LORD mother COW's sh*t If you start doing that, it'd be an improvement for you too. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: and eat something better.. I already do. Pork. You should try it too, sometime. But if you do so, you'll have to give up fantasizing about those 72 virgins, which you were not going to get anyway, since the mullah already raped them because he got horny after he saw their bare hands. You should cover your virgins in pig skins instead of burqas. That way even if they take out their hands to tease you, the mullahs won't touch them. Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Honestly, I'm not aware enough to be able to have an opinion on this subject. However, it would be really good if India and Pakistan were able to settle their problems a civilized way, I mean, without any guerilla or armed conflict. Generations will probably needed to people from both sides to forget their negative feeling toward the other, but it has to start now. IMHO, of course.
Le temps se perd, "Si" n'existe pas Tous les remords n'y changeront rien Le temps se perd, "Si" n'existe pas Donc à présent le choix reste mien
I am in full agreement with you. In fact, India and Pakistan have jointly initiated talks to solve the problem and are making progress. Trade has resumed, buses, trains, and planes are now going from one country to the other, cultural exchange is taking place, etc. Note that India had broken all ties with Pakistan two years back after the Pakistani sponsored attack on our parliament building. But fortunately politicians realised that this is not a solution to the problem, and things are now going to get better, hopefully. I want a peaceful solution too. I am of the opinion that hatred breeds more hatred. But if I see someone making unjustified claims about my country, taking advantage of the fact that others don't know enough one way or the other, I need to stand up and say hello to the guy. :) I also don't understand why a Pakistani needs to say "but look at India, they slaughter their people by the millions, they are the terrorists, not us" whenever someone says something about them. Clearly they don't have anything to say in their defense. All they can do is distract people by changing the topic. Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Stan Shannon wrote: If we were going to fight a war against the source of 9/11 type terror (which, lets face the truth, effectively means a war on Islam itself How do u relate 9/11 and islam?? Islam strongly condemns killing innocent people as in 9/11 case. According to islam a killer of innocent person (be it christian or muslim) is sentenced to death.. btw who in this world give this right that US can have nuclear weapons which she can use against Japan ( a terrorist act), but Pakistan, Iran or any other state can't have??? you call Iran terrorist because she is against Israel???? Why US helps Israel in its terrorist acts agaisnt palestinian people??? isnt it the terrorist act of US that it invaded Iraq despite it couldnt find ANY SINGLE WMD?? Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
M.Shoaib Khan wrote: Islam strongly condemns killing innocent people as in 9/11 case. According to islam a killer of innocent person (be it christian or muslim) is sentenced to death.. You guys keep saying that, but the murderers of 3000+ Americans, who did their killing in the name of your religion, are probably somewhere in your country. Have you spent any time trying to find them? I can assure you that if a religious fanatic who had killed 3000 of your countrymen in the name of my religion were hiding somewhere in my country I would be demanding that the government find them and punish them. But then, I'm a Christian. You Muslims talk the talk, but you don't seem to have enough manhood to walk the walk. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: btw who in this world give this right that US can have nuclear weapons which she can use against Japan ( a terrorist act), but Pakistan, Iran or any other state can't have??? We did. And the world is a better place for it. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: Why US helps Israel in its terrorist acts agaisnt palestinian people??? Because a billion Muslims are dedicated to the destruction of Israel. M.Shoaib Khan wrote: ??? isnt it the terrorist act of US that it invaded Iraq despite it couldnt find ANY SINGLE WMD?? No, it was an act of cleaning up a mess that your "civilization" should have taken care of long ago. Millions of westerners died to stop a western tyrant named Hitler. When will a million Muslims have the courage to stand up and destroy the evil spewing out of your culture? Until you do that, don't expect me to have any respect for you or your religion. Talk is cheap, and bible (or Koran) thumpers are a dime a dozen.
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I am in full agreement with you. In fact, India and Pakistan have jointly initiated talks to solve the problem and are making progress. Trade has resumed, buses, trains, and planes are now going from one country to the other, cultural exchange is taking place, etc. Note that India had broken all ties with Pakistan two years back after the Pakistani sponsored attack on our parliament building. But fortunately politicians realised that this is not a solution to the problem, and things are now going to get better, hopefully. I want a peaceful solution too. I am of the opinion that hatred breeds more hatred. But if I see someone making unjustified claims about my country, taking advantage of the fact that others don't know enough one way or the other, I need to stand up and say hello to the guy. :) I also don't understand why a Pakistani needs to say "but look at India, they slaughter their people by the millions, they are the terrorists, not us" whenever someone says something about them. Clearly they don't have anything to say in their defense. All they can do is distract people by changing the topic. Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
Rohit Sinha wrote: India, they slaughter their people by the millions Thats the fact which you yourself admit.. You are NOT killing so called "Your own people" .. u r killing people of Kashmir which was supposed to be a part of Pakistan ACCORDING TO UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTIONS which gives people of kashmir the RIGHT OF SELF DETERMINATION. you are depriving them from their right of freedom. Just in last 12 year , INDIA has killed more than 15,000 people in Kashmir and there have been severe Human rights violations in kashmir reported by nuetral human right bodies like Amnesty International.. u want people to have blind eye on that??? Life of 15,000 people doesnt mean ANYTHING to you?? :mad: Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
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Brit wrote: Looks like Dr. Khan (father of the Pakistani nuclear program) is connected to the nuclear programs of North Korea, China, Iran, Iraq, and Libya. I wish all of them have nuclear bombs and they declare it .. so that there is peace in US's dumb ASSSS.. if US has right to have Nuclear bombs then y dont any other country has the same right??? everyone has a right to defend itself.. US couldnt find even single WMD in Iraq. If Iraq had nuclear weapons, US would have never invaded it because of fear. So now NUKES are becoming necessary for one's sovereignity.. Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
M.Shoaib Khan wrote: if US has right to have Nuclear bombs then y dont any other country has the same right??? everyone has a right to defend itself.. US couldnt find even single WMD in Iraq. If Iraq had nuclear weapons, US would have never invaded it because of fear. So now NUKES are becoming necessary for one's sovereignity.. I agree with you on this. No country in world even with Largest miltary might can invade another country which has Nuclear weapons. Deepak Khajuria
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Rohit Sinha wrote: India, they slaughter their people by the millions Thats the fact which you yourself admit.. You are NOT killing so called "Your own people" .. u r killing people of Kashmir which was supposed to be a part of Pakistan ACCORDING TO UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTIONS which gives people of kashmir the RIGHT OF SELF DETERMINATION. you are depriving them from their right of freedom. Just in last 12 year , INDIA has killed more than 15,000 people in Kashmir and there have been severe Human rights violations in kashmir reported by nuetral human right bodies like Amnesty International.. u want people to have blind eye on that??? Life of 15,000 people doesnt mean ANYTHING to you?? :mad: Muhammad Shoaib Khan http://geocities.com/lansolution
M.Shoaib Khan wrote: ACCORDING TO UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTIONS which gives people of kashmir the RIGHT OF SELF DETERMINATION. you are depriving them from their right of freedom. How can you talk of this when you cannot choose you own president ? For how long your country had democratically elected head for last 50 yrs ? J&K has fully democratically elected gov. Further Resolution says that plebiscite should be held in whole of J&K ? What about POK and part of it acceded to China ? Are you going to ask China to return it ? Deepak Khajuria
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Yes, you're right. Why shouldn't the world's most volatile region have nukes? Just because it's ruled by a rotating sequence of dictators, theocracies, and extremists is no reason they shouldn't have nukes. Just because Saddam Hussein kills hundreds of thousands of his own people doesn't mean he can't be trusted with nukes. Just because Syria killed 30,000+ people in the city of Hama[^ doesn't mean they aren't responsible leaders. Here in the US, we allow people to have guns. But we don't allow felons to have guns. Now, I'm sure that, just like you, the felons are complaining "This is bullshit. Other people get to have guns." You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize how straight forward and levelheaded the "felons cannot have guns" idea is. Yet, when it comes to the idea of nukes in the Middle East, you all want to say, "This is bullshit. Other people get to have nukes." And it sounds just as stupid as when the felons say it. If you'd pull your head out of your ass long enough to notice that you're only acting on nationalistic tendencies, rather than any approximation of logic you'd know that nuclear proliferation is a problem and nuclear proliferation in the Middle East is the biggest part of that problem. ------------------------------------------ Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. In any debate, Hitler's opinion on the subject is automatically the evil one, so it had better be contrary to the side you're arguing.
Brit wrote: But we don't allow felons to have guns. You don't?, then all those killings by guns each year are performed by law abiding citizens?, wow... Ok, I am certainly not for nuclear weapons, but it IS hypocrasy to ban other countries from having nukes while at the same time abstaining from getting rid of you own. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus