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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Joe Woodbury wrote: the notion that your body builds up toxins is a load of rubbish. Care to explain why you believe this to be true? Jeremy Falcon

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    Jeremy Falcon wrote: Care to explain why you believe this to be true? Complete lack of medical evidence. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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      jimpar wrote: The Master Cleanser Right. I tried looking for Grade B Maple Syrup, but my grocery store doesn't carry any. So I used Grade for my first batch. I don't think I have too much "build up", so I won't be going through with the plan(even though I made some 'lemonade'), but the whole of whats going on internally is pretty neat. I'll probably go skim through the book at my local Barnes & Noble. Did you feel alot better afterwards? Any noticable signs of detoxification? BW CP Member Homepages


      "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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      You can find it at organic food stores. I felt great. my allergies disappeared. Thinking of doing this again soon

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        brianwelsch wrote: I should be doing just fine. It depends on your goals. What are you looking to do? Do you just want to feel "better" or are you looking to loose weight, etc.? Jeremy Falcon

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        I need to lose about 40 pounds, but I want to do it by making lifestyle changes, not by going on a diet for 2 months. My plan is regular exercise (3-4 X week), eat less refined sugar, eat more natural foods, etc. 1-2 pounds a week is the goal. Once, I start losing weight, I'm sure feeling better will be a normal side effect. BW CP Member Homepages


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          Any recommended reading to learn more about natural medicine? BW CP Member Homepages


          "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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          brianwelsch wrote: Any recommended reading to learn more about natural medicine? It sounds silly, but a lot can be learned from books on child health. Here's one: A Guide To Child Heath, by Michaela Glockler and Wolfgang Goebel This book I've found very helpful and honest: Home Remedies, Herbal and homeopathic treatments for use at hone, by Otto Wolff. The Internet is an amazing source of both good and bad information, as is your local "health food" store (a place where you can find more junk than a candy store at Disneyland!). I also find the Internet very useful in looking up mainstream drugs (often refered to as "allopathic": A method of treating disease with remedies that produce effects different from those caused by the disease itself). Something that really opened my eyes was the difference between organic food and regular agricultural practices. If you want to get really esoteric, look up biodynamic farming. There's a biodynamic farm in New York State, one of only two farms in the state certified to sell raw milk. Marc Latest AAL Article My blog Join my forum!

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Joe Woodbury wrote: the notion that your body builds up toxins is a load of rubbish. Care to explain why you believe this to be true? Jeremy Falcon

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            There was a doctor on the radio the other day saying just that. The jist of his point was much the same as Joe's. "Detoxifying" is just the latest health fad. It's fashionable, it allows people to think there is some magic rememdy that can correct their indulgences. I guess there may be some placebo effect, though. profile

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              I need to lose about 40 pounds, but I want to do it by making lifestyle changes, not by going on a diet for 2 months. My plan is regular exercise (3-4 X week), eat less refined sugar, eat more natural foods, etc. 1-2 pounds a week is the goal. Once, I start losing weight, I'm sure feeling better will be a normal side effect. BW CP Member Homepages


              "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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              Maximilien
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              once you start eating less than what your body is burning and excercising, you will loose some weight, at the beginning, it will go faster; it did for me, and at one point, it will get harder, and longuer. if you exercise, ask for some recomendation for your diet.


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                >Sounds rough, man! It is not so bad. All the Tequilla dulls the pain as you get through the marrow. Plus she is left with something to remember you by. Actually this new years day I woke up at 9am (alone thank god), stumbled outside, grabbed breakfast, stumbled back to bed, woke up feeling a lot better at 2pm, wandered down to the beach and spent the rest of the day dodging blue-bottles and avoiding the life guards because they don't look kindly on people swimming with their sunshades still on. My thigh muscles actually ached more than my head that morning after having played my first game of Twister at about 4 in the morning. If you got the hand/foot placement wrong, you drank. If you fell over, you drank. If you got into an embarassing position, everybody else drank. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                Twister as a drinking game. :wtf: Paul, Twister is meant to be played naked. :-D :-D Drinking is just an option. Course maybe my version of the game came with these rules cause of where I bought it. I think the store was called, "The Passion Pit" or something like that. :-D Chris Meech It's much easier to get rich telling people what they want to hear. Christopher Duncan I can't help getting older, but I refuse to grow up. Roger Wright I've been meaning to change my sig. Thanks! Alvaro Mendez We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton

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                • B brianwelsch

                  I need to lose about 40 pounds, but I want to do it by making lifestyle changes, not by going on a diet for 2 months. My plan is regular exercise (3-4 X week), eat less refined sugar, eat more natural foods, etc. 1-2 pounds a week is the goal. Once, I start losing weight, I'm sure feeling better will be a normal side effect. BW CP Member Homepages


                  "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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                  brianwelsch wrote: but I want to do it by making lifestyle changes, not by going on a diet for 2 months. Well for one, congrats on making the right decision when it comes to weight loss. brianwelsch wrote: 1-2 pounds a week is the goal. Which is ideal. Anything over 3-5lbs a week and you're loosing msucle mass and water. Well, if you don't want to count calories, and here's a rundown on a general idea of what to do. BTW, I've lost over a 140lbs before so I am talking from experience. Eat less saturated fats (solid at room temperature – think gravy) and cholesterol (think sausage) and bad carbs (think candy and sweets). Eat more good cholesterol (like HDL, etc. – think eggs), good carbs for breakfast and lunch (think whole grain wheat and bagels), and a good source of protein (not lunch meat – fish and chicken are good). Protein can be a fat loss inhibitor, so can carbs actually. Ideally, you’ll want 10-20% of your calories to come from fat, 20-40% from protein, and the rest from good carbs so you don’t feel tired. And the exercise is very important. Remember, there’s 3500 calories to a pound and knowing your RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate) is important. If you want a more detailed plan, I can help but first I’ll need your RMR. You might get a general idea of it if you find an online calculator. Jeremy Falcon

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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote: Care to explain why you believe this to be true? Complete lack of medical evidence. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                    Which doesn't make it untrue either. Jeremy Falcon

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                    • B brianwelsch

                      I need to lose about 40 pounds, but I want to do it by making lifestyle changes, not by going on a diet for 2 months. My plan is regular exercise (3-4 X week), eat less refined sugar, eat more natural foods, etc. 1-2 pounds a week is the goal. Once, I start losing weight, I'm sure feeling better will be a normal side effect. BW CP Member Homepages


                      "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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                      brianwelsch wrote: My plan is regular exercise (3-4 X week), eat less refined sugar, eat more natural foods, etc. If you stick to that exercise routine, make sure you follow Jeremy's advice about water intake. I lost 25 pounds over about a 12 month period and I believe the extra water intake was just as important as the exercising. I only drink about 0.5 to 1 litre a day now, but during the time I was losing weight, I was consuming about 2.5 to 3 litres a day. Good luck to you. Chris Meech It's much easier to get rich telling people what they want to hear. Christopher Duncan I can't help getting older, but I refuse to grow up. Roger Wright I've been meaning to change my sig. Thanks! Alvaro Mendez We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton

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                        I've found some info yesterday about a body detoxification diet, called the "The Lemonade Diet". Basically, you drink a mix of water/lemon juice/maple syrup and cayenne pepper for about 10 days, and it's supposed to help you get rid of all garbage in body. Anyway, I was a bit intrigued. I made the mixture, which is surprisingly tasty, but don't really care to go on liquid fast for the next 2 weeks. It just seems a bit extreme, I guess. Has anyone here had any experience with this or other similar detox plans? Do you really feel much better? Wouldn't it be better to just modify eating habits for the long run? BW CP Member Homepages


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                        http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/detox.html[^] Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                          brianwelsch wrote: My plan is regular exercise (3-4 X week), eat less refined sugar, eat more natural foods, etc. If you stick to that exercise routine, make sure you follow Jeremy's advice about water intake. I lost 25 pounds over about a 12 month period and I believe the extra water intake was just as important as the exercising. I only drink about 0.5 to 1 litre a day now, but during the time I was losing weight, I was consuming about 2.5 to 3 litres a day. Good luck to you. Chris Meech It's much easier to get rich telling people what they want to hear. Christopher Duncan I can't help getting older, but I refuse to grow up. Roger Wright I've been meaning to change my sig. Thanks! Alvaro Mendez We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Chris Meech wrote: I believe the extra water intake was just as important as the exercising. You're right. The extra water promotes a healthier metabolism when mixed with exercise because it flush out the byproducts left behind by your metabolism when burning the extra fat. If it’s not cleaned away, then your body bumps down the furnace a bit to keep things in check. Jeremy Falcon

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                            http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/detox.html[^] Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            I believe some of it is legit. I also beleive (this is the case in any market) there are plenty of people who will take your money regardless of the quality of their product. Jeremy Falcon

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                              I've found some info yesterday about a body detoxification diet, called the "The Lemonade Diet". Basically, you drink a mix of water/lemon juice/maple syrup and cayenne pepper for about 10 days, and it's supposed to help you get rid of all garbage in body. Anyway, I was a bit intrigued. I made the mixture, which is surprisingly tasty, but don't really care to go on liquid fast for the next 2 weeks. It just seems a bit extreme, I guess. Has anyone here had any experience with this or other similar detox plans? Do you really feel much better? Wouldn't it be better to just modify eating habits for the long run? BW CP Member Homepages


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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              Here's another piece of interesting read. I learned the hard way about taking too much of a vitamin (for me it was Vitamin E) when I started my health kick a while back. IMO, this topic warrants a little research too. http://nutrition.tufts.edu/consumer/balance/2003-11/vitaminod.html[^] Jeremy Falcon

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                              • B brianwelsch

                                Jeremy Falcon wrote: Eating healthy Doing some reading, and I'm not seeing much need even to take supplemental vitamins. As long as I eat a good variety and minimize refined sugar and saturated fats, do a little exercise, I should be doing just fine. BW CP Member Homepages


                                "...take what you need and leave the rest..."

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                                Norman Fung
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                                I'd be most interested in ways to cut down 7 hours of sleep everyday to say 3 by 15 minutes of Yoga. :zzz: norm

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                                  I'd be most interested in ways to cut down 7 hours of sleep everyday to say 3 by 15 minutes of Yoga. :zzz: norm

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                                  brianwelsch
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                                  Don't think that's going to happen, but here's a little info on yoga and sleep. http://yoga.org.nz/benefits/physiological_benefits/yoga_insomnia.htm[^] BW CP Member Homepages


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                                  • I Ian Darling

                                    Megan Forbes wrote: Mmmm... Wagamama Actually, there's an idea for where to get lunch or something for the CP meet. It seems there's one in Canary Wharf, and there's several others in London too - which I'm sure we'll be relatively close to wherever we hold the meet. -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky

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                                    Not a bad idea! Hopefully one of us can remember the suggestion closer to the time when we decide on a venue :)


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                                      Here's another piece of interesting read. I learned the hard way about taking too much of a vitamin (for me it was Vitamin E) when I started my health kick a while back. IMO, this topic warrants a little research too. http://nutrition.tufts.edu/consumer/balance/2003-11/vitaminod.html[^] Jeremy Falcon

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                                      brianwelsch
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                                      I have The Pill Book Guide to Natural Medicines [^], which covers vitamins, minerals, and herbs. Good info. Thanks for the link. BW CP Member Homepages


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                                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                                        Which doesn't make it untrue either. Jeremy Falcon

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                                        Haakon S
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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote: Which doesn't make it untrue either. It is possible to make investigations into this. You can for example do very accurate urine tests during fasting. What Joe is saying is absolutely right. There are no indications that your body is cleansing itself because of any extreeme diet. Regards, Haakon. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote: Which doesn't make it untrue either. It is possible to make investigations into this. You can for example do very accurate urine tests during fasting. What Joe is saying is absolutely right. There are no indications that your body is cleansing itself because of any extreeme diet. Regards, Haakon. A sure cure for seasickness is to sit under a tree. Spike Milligan

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                                          brianwelsch
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                                          It's not that the body cleases itself because of any diet. I think the body cleanses itself the same way it always does, its just that putting less toxants into your body, gives it a chance to "catch up" if this is necessary. BW CP Member Homepages


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