SCO wants google to license...
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Clickety[^] Whatever happened to burden of proof? Last I heard a judge told sco they had to provide proof but I haven't heard or seen anything of such. Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
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Clickety[^] Whatever happened to burden of proof? Last I heard a judge told sco they had to provide proof but I haven't heard or seen anything of such. Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
It seems to me that SCO is trying to: 1) Bully companies to purchase "licenses" for the use of Linux by threating to sue them and then use those as additional "proof" that their copyrights have been violated... and 2) When SCO looses, they will declare bankruptcy so they do not have to refund the ill gotten gains. meanwhile the SCO officers are living high.... Steve
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It seems to me that SCO is trying to: 1) Bully companies to purchase "licenses" for the use of Linux by threating to sue them and then use those as additional "proof" that their copyrights have been violated... and 2) When SCO looses, they will declare bankruptcy so they do not have to refund the ill gotten gains. meanwhile the SCO officers are living high.... Steve
Wow, you read my thought or is the picture becoming clearer? :-D If they have a case against Linux, they should take it to Linus for "stealing" their codes, and he will tell them the one who "stole" it if he is not the one. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Clickety[^] Whatever happened to burden of proof? Last I heard a judge told sco they had to provide proof but I haven't heard or seen anything of such. Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
Matt Newman wrote: Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. lol - every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux - and usually within 15 minutes I've rebooted back to Windows 2000. 13 years of Windows and 5 years of DOS beats 5 years with Unix :) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
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Matt Newman wrote: Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. lol - every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux - and usually within 15 minutes I've rebooted back to Windows 2000. 13 years of Windows and 5 years of DOS beats 5 years with Unix :) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
Rob Manderson wrote: every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux I know that feeling. I used Solaris for most of my time at uni, which I was reasonably comfortable with (although I had a 9x box at home from my second year for games and fiddling with QuickBasic :-)). I also tried RedHat 5.2 (so this wouild be 1997/1998?) on that box, which to this day is the best Linux distro I've used :rolleyes: I occasionally stick a newer version on (Virtual PC has made that much less painful), and I still rate NT 4 as friendlier than any Linux distro (Mandrake 9 got close, but it still lacked that je ne sais quoi) And in my own case, I find NT-based systems easier to secure (because if there's one thing I dislike, it's having to arse about just to get my system working) -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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Clickety[^] Whatever happened to burden of proof? Last I heard a judge told sco they had to provide proof but I haven't heard or seen anything of such. Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
bool GoogleIncludeResultsInSearch(char *site_name)
{
if (strstr(site_name,"sco.com") != NULL) {
return false;
}
else {
return true;
}
}
Software Zen:
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Matt Newman wrote: Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. lol - every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux - and usually within 15 minutes I've rebooted back to Windows 2000. 13 years of Windows and 5 years of DOS beats 5 years with Unix :) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
give www.gentoo.org a go if you're in a tinkering mood and/or have no money . i've got evrything working except bluetooth sync and hibernate - you still need to put in the hours with Linux but I find this distro gets the most out of it. Package installation is nice -it automatically downloads source + dependencies , compiles (your cpu/enviroments optimisations) and installs. Its faster than XP for me after youve loaded up all you need. The forums and doco are up to date as well (no prehistoric howto's => negative usefuleness). legal!=profit!=technical
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bool GoogleIncludeResultsInSearch(char *site_name)
{
if (strstr(site_name,"sco.com") != NULL) {
return false;
}
else {
return true;
}
}
Software Zen:
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Clickety[^] Whatever happened to burden of proof? Last I heard a judge told sco they had to provide proof but I haven't heard or seen anything of such. Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
Welcome to the world of patent extortion. Proof has nothing to do with it. You sue a company that doesn't have a vested interest in producing revenue with a product. They pay you to so you go away. SCO screwed up by suing IBM since they need Linux for continued revenue. Google really doesn't need Linux for revenue, they just need to continue being able to run their servers. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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Matt Newman wrote: Although. I am tempted to start using linux for the sole purpose of refusing to pay SCO... ...wait I second, no I'm not. lol - every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux - and usually within 15 minutes I've rebooted back to Windows 2000. 13 years of Windows and 5 years of DOS beats 5 years with Unix :) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
Rob Manderson wrote: lol - every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux - and usually within 15 minutes I've rebooted back to Windows 2000. 13 years of Windows and 5 years of DOS beats 5 years with Unix I've tried on more than one occasion to install some flavor of linux or BSD and everytime it just ends up not working for various reasons. I even tried gentoo, which has the worst installer I have ever seen, and I just gave up Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
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bool GoogleIncludeResultsInSearch(char *site_name) { return (strstr(site_name,"sco.com") == 0); }Picky, picky... :)
Software Zen:
delete this; -
Rob Manderson wrote: every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux I know that feeling. I used Solaris for most of my time at uni, which I was reasonably comfortable with (although I had a 9x box at home from my second year for games and fiddling with QuickBasic :-)). I also tried RedHat 5.2 (so this wouild be 1997/1998?) on that box, which to this day is the best Linux distro I've used :rolleyes: I occasionally stick a newer version on (Virtual PC has made that much less painful), and I still rate NT 4 as friendlier than any Linux distro (Mandrake 9 got close, but it still lacked that je ne sais quoi) And in my own case, I find NT-based systems easier to secure (because if there's one thing I dislike, it's having to arse about just to get my system working) -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
Ian Darling wrote: but it still lacked that je ne sais quoi Even though I also don't know what it is, I know exactly what you mean - I feel the same way :) Ian Darling wrote: Virtual PC has made that much less painful Indeed :-D Ian Darling wrote: I find NT-based systems easier to secure Also true :-) ...I also like trying out the latest Linux once in a while, to remind myself that I'm a Windows weenie ;P I just feel like my hands are tied and I've got a sock in my mouth when I'm using Linux... Probably with practise I could get good at it, but I'm not sure I feel like the hassle :-O Paul ;)
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Rob Manderson wrote: lol - every so often my Unix background asserts itself and makes me boot a Knoppix CD image just so I can have a play with Linux - and usually within 15 minutes I've rebooted back to Windows 2000. 13 years of Windows and 5 years of DOS beats 5 years with Unix I've tried on more than one occasion to install some flavor of linux or BSD and everytime it just ends up not working for various reasons. I even tried gentoo, which has the worst installer I have ever seen, and I just gave up Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
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Welcome to the world of patent extortion. Proof has nothing to do with it. You sue a company that doesn't have a vested interest in producing revenue with a product. They pay you to so you go away. SCO screwed up by suing IBM since they need Linux for continued revenue. Google really doesn't need Linux for revenue, they just need to continue being able to run their servers. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: Google really doesn't need Linux for revenue, they just need to continue being able to run their servers. Reading through the Google File System paper[^] (PDF), it struck me that there probably isn't a great deal of dependency on Linux - GFS could probably be ported quite easily to a BSD or even to Windows, depending on how much use has been made of low-level or non-POSIX system calls. The Google File System (at least as described in the paper) is an entirely user-mode system.