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    Husein
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    Now, why in the name of God did Microsoft keep MS-DOS mem command under Windows XP or Windows 2000 :wtf:? And when you type mem and hit enter it returns the information for Conventional memory, XMS, EMS!!! Oh Why???:omg::wtf: Does anyone know any good use for it???

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      Now, why in the name of God did Microsoft keep MS-DOS mem command under Windows XP or Windows 2000 :wtf:? And when you type mem and hit enter it returns the information for Conventional memory, XMS, EMS!!! Oh Why???:omg::wtf: Does anyone know any good use for it???

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      As long as XP supports DOS applications, I can see a reason for it. Jeremy Falcon

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        Now, why in the name of God did Microsoft keep MS-DOS mem command under Windows XP or Windows 2000 :wtf:? And when you type mem and hit enter it returns the information for Conventional memory, XMS, EMS!!! Oh Why???:omg::wtf: Does anyone know any good use for it???

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        John M Drescher
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        Backward compatibility. I still have a lot of dos games... Although I have not played any of them in over a year... John

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          Now, why in the name of God did Microsoft keep MS-DOS mem command under Windows XP or Windows 2000 :wtf:? And when you type mem and hit enter it returns the information for Conventional memory, XMS, EMS!!! Oh Why???:omg::wtf: Does anyone know any good use for it???

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          Paul Watson
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          Nostalgia, my good man, nostalgia. It is so old fogies like us can chortle in nostalgic rememberance. We can use words like bah-humbug and new-fangled-rubbish. I wonder if those memory managers still work. Eaking out a few extra kilobytes to get Doom working is ever a fond memory of mine. It comes in at a close second to having Doom on 14 floppies and the ZIP CRC failing on the 14th disk (on the main WAD file of course). regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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            Now, why in the name of God did Microsoft keep MS-DOS mem command under Windows XP or Windows 2000 :wtf:? And when you type mem and hit enter it returns the information for Conventional memory, XMS, EMS!!! Oh Why???:omg::wtf: Does anyone know any good use for it???

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            I once listened a fun conversation on a datacenter. Two programmers (~60 years old) came to our customer (a huge company, with a datacenter of my dreams) to help on the installation an accounting software that some clueless user on that company chose. Then, they found the problem and said: 'Ha! We found it! This machine has not enough available RAM' You should see the face of the poor administrator stating: 'But how much RAM does this program need? This is a machine with 2GB RAM! And only your program is running on it!' It was a DOS (not Win32 console, really DOS) Clipper 5 program and needed 615K available conventional memory, and the Win2k machine didn't have it. My suggestion of Blinker saved the day :-D Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. -- Bruce Schneier By the way, dog_spawn isn't a nickname - it is my name with an underscore instead of a space. -- dog_spawn

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              Nostalgia, my good man, nostalgia. It is so old fogies like us can chortle in nostalgic rememberance. We can use words like bah-humbug and new-fangled-rubbish. I wonder if those memory managers still work. Eaking out a few extra kilobytes to get Doom working is ever a fond memory of mine. It comes in at a close second to having Doom on 14 floppies and the ZIP CRC failing on the 14th disk (on the main WAD file of course). regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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              Testify Brother! :cool: Ah, those good 'ol days.... I still have a 486DX-33 that was purchased in 1991 still running on ALL the original equipment. I wonder if I keep it running if it will be worth something someday....:~ John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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                I once listened a fun conversation on a datacenter. Two programmers (~60 years old) came to our customer (a huge company, with a datacenter of my dreams) to help on the installation an accounting software that some clueless user on that company chose. Then, they found the problem and said: 'Ha! We found it! This machine has not enough available RAM' You should see the face of the poor administrator stating: 'But how much RAM does this program need? This is a machine with 2GB RAM! And only your program is running on it!' It was a DOS (not Win32 console, really DOS) Clipper 5 program and needed 615K available conventional memory, and the Win2k machine didn't have it. My suggestion of Blinker saved the day :-D Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. -- Bruce Schneier By the way, dog_spawn isn't a nickname - it is my name with an underscore instead of a space. -- dog_spawn

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                The Blinker web page said: The 32 bit Xbase++ compiler from Alaska is supported, together with any add-on libraries which use the Intel .OMF file format Is it incompatible with the XBase++ compiler from Alabama you think? :rolleyes: -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                  The Blinker web page said: The 32 bit Xbase++ compiler from Alaska is supported, together with any add-on libraries which use the Intel .OMF file format Is it incompatible with the XBase++ compiler from Alabama you think? :rolleyes: -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Is it incompatible with the XBase++ compiler from Alabama you think? Hey, they're very backwards in Alabama. The XBase++ compiler there is really a 23 bit compiler. :-D


                  Norm Almond:I seen some GUI's in my life but WTF is this mess ;) Leppie:I made an app for my sister and she wouldnt use it till it was colorful enough:) Norm:good point leppie, from that statement I can only deduce that this GUI must be aimed at children:laugh: Leppie:My sister is 25:eek: -Norm on the MailMagic GUI

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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Is it incompatible with the XBase++ compiler from Alabama you think? Hey, they're very backwards in Alabama. The XBase++ compiler there is really a 23 bit compiler. :-D


                    Norm Almond:I seen some GUI's in my life but WTF is this mess ;) Leppie:I made an app for my sister and she wouldnt use it till it was colorful enough:) Norm:good point leppie, from that statement I can only deduce that this GUI must be aimed at children:laugh: Leppie:My sister is 25:eek: -Norm on the MailMagic GUI

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                    <alabama dialect>And that's all you have to saaaaay about thaaaaaaat?</alabama dialect> ;) -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                      Testify Brother! :cool: Ah, those good 'ol days.... I still have a 486DX-33 that was purchased in 1991 still running on ALL the original equipment. I wonder if I keep it running if it will be worth something someday....:~ John Theal Physicist at Large Got CAD? http://www.presenter3d.com[^]

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                      Good old MS-DOS, good old Windows 3.1 and Program Manager and File Manager and Character Map and Trumpet Winsock. Well I really miss typing: DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF DOS=HIGH,UMB Wooow, I still remember config.sys. hehehehe I have P100 which I bought in 94 or 95 when I was in England, and now talking to you guys about this makes me want to install MS-DOS 5 or 6 on it and mess with it a bit. Yeah P100 with 16MB RAM and 1GB of Hard Disk space. And it still has a Turbo button on it :laugh: Do we computer people need to get a life or is this life or our life? :confused:

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                        Nostalgia, my good man, nostalgia. It is so old fogies like us can chortle in nostalgic rememberance. We can use words like bah-humbug and new-fangled-rubbish. I wonder if those memory managers still work. Eaking out a few extra kilobytes to get Doom working is ever a fond memory of mine. It comes in at a close second to having Doom on 14 floppies and the ZIP CRC failing on the 14th disk (on the main WAD file of course). regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Brian Welsch wrote: "blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans. Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                        Paul Watson wrote: It comes in at a close second to having Doom on 14 floppies and the ZIP CRC failing on the 14th disk (on the main WAD file of course). Yeah man...old days were harsh ones!


                        There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate, So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late

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                          Now, why in the name of God did Microsoft keep MS-DOS mem command under Windows XP or Windows 2000 :wtf:? And when you type mem and hit enter it returns the information for Conventional memory, XMS, EMS!!! Oh Why???:omg::wtf: Does anyone know any good use for it???

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                          Bruce Duncan
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                          never mind that, try edlin, its still there.

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                            Good old MS-DOS, good old Windows 3.1 and Program Manager and File Manager and Character Map and Trumpet Winsock. Well I really miss typing: DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF DOS=HIGH,UMB Wooow, I still remember config.sys. hehehehe I have P100 which I bought in 94 or 95 when I was in England, and now talking to you guys about this makes me want to install MS-DOS 5 or 6 on it and mess with it a bit. Yeah P100 with 16MB RAM and 1GB of Hard Disk space. And it still has a Turbo button on it :laugh: Do we computer people need to get a life or is this life or our life? :confused:

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                            I'm forced to maintain my father's 486x133 with 48Mb ram, the most cantankerous thing to run Win98. It hates USB and it's own on-board sound card won't work right. Lightning struck it, and it didn't die:mad:, just fried the fax part of the fax/modem.:confused: "For all of our languages, we cannot communicate" - Christy Moore, Natives

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                              Good old MS-DOS, good old Windows 3.1 and Program Manager and File Manager and Character Map and Trumpet Winsock. Well I really miss typing: DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF DOS=HIGH,UMB Wooow, I still remember config.sys. hehehehe I have P100 which I bought in 94 or 95 when I was in England, and now talking to you guys about this makes me want to install MS-DOS 5 or 6 on it and mess with it a bit. Yeah P100 with 16MB RAM and 1GB of Hard Disk space. And it still has a Turbo button on it :laugh: Do we computer people need to get a life or is this life or our life? :confused:

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                              Husein wrote: I have P100 which I bought in 94 or 95 when I was in England Hah!! That's modern!! I have (standing around, still running ;P) a P75mhz with 48mb of RAM :) It's running Windows NT4 Server happily doing, well... Nothing :) Probably the only reason I still keep it there must be nostalgia :) Paul ;)

                              Open the fridge door, scream, and everything that doesn't run into the corner is safe for eating. - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                Husein wrote: I have P100 which I bought in 94 or 95 when I was in England Hah!! That's modern!! I have (standing around, still running ;P) a P75mhz with 48mb of RAM :) It's running Windows NT4 Server happily doing, well... Nothing :) Probably the only reason I still keep it there must be nostalgia :) Paul ;)

                                Open the fridge door, scream, and everything that doesn't run into the corner is safe for eating. - Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                Husein
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                                Actually I used to have IBM XT. That was quite an experience. It took decades to count that massive amount of memory... 640K ;P. And that sharp picture on a monochromatic monitor. Two colors: black and orange. At that time I didn't realise that there will be a huge hype about it's 20 years so I opened it and disassembled it. It was for educational purposes. After that I through it in a bin. :((

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                                  Paul Watson wrote: It comes in at a close second to having Doom on 14 floppies and the ZIP CRC failing on the 14th disk (on the main WAD file of course). Yeah man...old days were harsh ones!


                                  There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate, So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late

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                                  Yes, but we learnt things the hard way and we can say that we are the SAS or Navy SEALs of computing. :cool: Take, for example, these kids today. :sigh: I can bet 80% of them don't know what 3 1/2" floppy disk looks like, and lets not mention 5 1/4" ones. Can anyone remember the beauty of running pkzip.exe and pkunzip.exe at the command prompt? Damn, this nostalgia is going to kill me. :-D But one thing I would like to hear again is Wolf3D sound through PC Speaker.;)

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