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  • K KaRl

    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: That has to be very f'ed up people When the movie ran for the first tme, there was there a mini-polemic created by the usual suspects, the ones who call the Police when they hear the word "Youth". Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: who claimed he'd smoked pot for 10 years I don't think he can be compared to a heroin addict. I've known some, and I can say Trainspotting is not a pure fiction. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Personally, I try to stay away from things I know may cause problems Enjoy, MDs say a glass of wine per day is very healthy :-D


    There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate, So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late

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    KaЯl wrote: I don't think he can be compared to a heroin addict. Of course. Heroin is one of the most addictive crap on the market, and does nobody any good. I'm happy to say that I know no heroin addict. KaЯl wrote: Enjoy, MDs say a glass of wine per day is very healthy Of course :cool: But after the 2 glasses, the mind starts to crumble, and not soon after, the wine bottle is empty. -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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      and your wicked accent. ;P I tried to watch Trainspotting the other day without subtitles - it's bloody impossible! Do you guys know of a secret set of vowels? Care to share with the rest of the world? ;) :-D -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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      Try reading the book - it is written in the same Scottish brogue (almost phonetic!). I have many Glaswegian friends (and hence am quite used to the accent) but I had to read it out loud in places otherwise the words made no sense! I haven't read the sequel, Porno, yet but it's on ma list...


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        KaЯl wrote: I don't think he can be compared to a heroin addict. Of course. Heroin is one of the most addictive crap on the market, and does nobody any good. I'm happy to say that I know no heroin addict. KaЯl wrote: Enjoy, MDs say a glass of wine per day is very healthy Of course :cool: But after the 2 glasses, the mind starts to crumble, and not soon after, the wine bottle is empty. -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But after the 2 glasses, the mind starts to crumble, and not soon after, the wine bottle is empty Uti, non abuti[^] :)


        There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate, So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late

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        • P pankajdaga

          hehehe. This will teach you not to download movies from Kazaa ;P j/k Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress

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          Or at least also download the subtitles..;) /Magnus


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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            and your wicked accent. ;P I tried to watch Trainspotting the other day without subtitles - it's bloody impossible! Do you guys know of a secret set of vowels? Care to share with the rest of the world? ;) :-D -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: and your wicked accent I'm Scots and I don't have a wicked accent! Actually, the reason you may have difficulty is that the words are not in English exactly (it is an semi-anglisised version of Scots.) That statment is going to cause an argument I can tell because there is debate about whether the Scots language still exists as it has been steadily been wiped out over the last few decades. Some will say that what is spoken in Scotland is a dialect of English, others will say it is a language in its own right with dialects (e.g. Doric [as spoken in Aberdeen] verus Lallans [the more traditional form, as spoken in the Scottish Borders]) http://www.lallans.co.uk/[^] --Colin Mackay--

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            • C Colin Angus Mackay

              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: and your wicked accent I'm Scots and I don't have a wicked accent! Actually, the reason you may have difficulty is that the words are not in English exactly (it is an semi-anglisised version of Scots.) That statment is going to cause an argument I can tell because there is debate about whether the Scots language still exists as it has been steadily been wiped out over the last few decades. Some will say that what is spoken in Scotland is a dialect of English, others will say it is a language in its own right with dialects (e.g. Doric [as spoken in Aberdeen] verus Lallans [the more traditional form, as spoken in the Scottish Borders]) http://www.lallans.co.uk/[^] --Colin Mackay--

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              I had a teacher at the university who comes from Scotland. One day at a lecture for programming language course, he drifted off topic (as he often does :rolleyes:), and ended up comparing Swedish and Scottish. According to him, the Scottish language/dialect is partly influenced by nordic languages. Do you know if there is any truth in that? -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                I had a teacher at the university who comes from Scotland. One day at a lecture for programming language course, he drifted off topic (as he often does :rolleyes:), and ended up comparing Swedish and Scottish. According to him, the Scottish language/dialect is partly influenced by nordic languages. Do you know if there is any truth in that? -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: According to him, the Scottish language/dialect is partly influenced by nordic languages. Do you know if there is any truth in that? Yes there is a lot of influence from other Northern European languages. I don't have a lot of specific details about the similarities but I do know a few connections: "Kirk" from the Dutch "Kerk" "Firth" from the Norwegian "Fjord" "Breeks"(sp?) from the Dutch "broek" "Snell" from the Dutch --Colin Mackay--

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                • L Lost User

                  Try reading the book - it is written in the same Scottish brogue (almost phonetic!). I have many Glaswegian friends (and hence am quite used to the accent) but I had to read it out loud in places otherwise the words made no sense! I haven't read the sequel, Porno, yet but it's on ma list...


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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: I have many Glaswegian friends (and hence am quite used to the accent) I think there would be a lot of Glaswegians and Edinburgers that would disagree. The Glasgow accent is quite different from the Edinburgh accent. --Colin Mackay--

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                  • C Colin Angus Mackay

                    Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: I have many Glaswegian friends (and hence am quite used to the accent) I think there would be a lot of Glaswegians and Edinburgers that would disagree. The Glasgow accent is quite different from the Edinburgh accent. --Colin Mackay--

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                    But Glaswegian is notoriously hard to understand - more so than an Edinburgh accent I think...


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                      But Glaswegian is notoriously hard to understand - more so than an Edinburgh accent I think...


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                      Then the book should be easy for you to understand then. :-D Since Irvine Welsh is from Edinburgh, and the book is set in Edinburgh and, IIRC, no one from Glasgow features in it. --Colin Mackay--

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        and your wicked accent. ;P I tried to watch Trainspotting the other day without subtitles - it's bloody impossible! Do you guys know of a secret set of vowels? Care to share with the rest of the world? ;) :-D -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: tried to watch Trainspotting the other day without subtitles - it's bloody impossible! Do you guys know of a secret set of vowels? Care to share with the rest of the world? Now I wuite a bit closer, in fact I parents live in Scotland, and I know what you mean. Nothing quite like a Glaswegian accent. Saying that in the UK quite a lot of call centers are based there as it can also be quite a freindly accent when they slow down, and stop saying "fuck, I dunna ken!".


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                        • G Giles

                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: tried to watch Trainspotting the other day without subtitles - it's bloody impossible! Do you guys know of a secret set of vowels? Care to share with the rest of the world? Now I wuite a bit closer, in fact I parents live in Scotland, and I know what you mean. Nothing quite like a Glaswegian accent. Saying that in the UK quite a lot of call centers are based there as it can also be quite a freindly accent when they slow down, and stop saying "fuck, I dunna ken!".


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                          Giles wrote: wuite Pardon? Giles wrote: "f***, I dunna ken!". That's "f***, I don't know", right? If so, scottish definately has germanic influences. Sounds like ken derives from german (or maybe dutch) Kennen. -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                            Giles wrote: wuite Pardon? Giles wrote: "f***, I dunna ken!". That's "f***, I don't know", right? If so, scottish definately has germanic influences. Sounds like ken derives from german (or maybe dutch) Kennen. -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Giles wrote: wuite Pardon? That was a "live" that went horribly wrong. I tried to say "Now I live a bit closer". Doh! Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: That's "f***, I don't know", right? If so, scottish definately has germanic influences. Sounds like ken derives from german (or maybe dutch) Kennen. It does mean that. Not bad, not bad at all. I thought you said you were having difficulty with Train Spotting? Not sure if the Celts have Germanic infuences. I suppose they may, but my money would be more on the Vikings, but then they got around quite a bit.


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                            • D Daniel Ferguson

                              KaЯl wrote: I can't believe some people present this movie as an incitement to drug use. They should watch Requiem For A Dream -- it'll cure their interest in drugs in a hurry.

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              Indeed. :( I get this sick feeling when I watch movies like that. It's as if I can feel the portrayed pain. I just sit there and ask "Why? Why? Noooo, don't do it!" loud for myself. That's why I shouldn't watch these movies at the cinema. :) -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                Indeed. :( I get this sick feeling when I watch movies like that. It's as if I can feel the portrayed pain. I just sit there and ask "Why? Why? Noooo, don't do it!" loud for myself. That's why I shouldn't watch these movies at the cinema. :) -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.

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                                Jörgen Sigvardsson "Why? Why? Noooo, don't do it!" That's how I feel watching these movies too, especially when they are so vivid. That's part of what makes them good movies.

                                The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations. -David Friedman

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