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Back from Las Vegas: Been 4hrs early at the airport - yet we would have missed the plane by large had we go through "normal" economy check in. Not questioning the effectiveness*, yet just one thing: How long can US air carriers, and business in general, afford "orange"? Discuss.
*) One learns a lot by just going through there, and it didn't make me really feel safer. A must mention: the officer who did an extra check of my hand luggage on the way back. friendly, relaxed, polite. Despite the madness, something you would never meet in Germany.
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenIt certainly seems the airlines are worried. The specials for flights from the UK to the US are back to prices I remember as being "specials" in 1997.
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Back from Las Vegas: Been 4hrs early at the airport - yet we would have missed the plane by large had we go through "normal" economy check in. Not questioning the effectiveness*, yet just one thing: How long can US air carriers, and business in general, afford "orange"? Discuss.
*) One learns a lot by just going through there, and it didn't make me really feel safer. A must mention: the officer who did an extra check of my hand luggage on the way back. friendly, relaxed, polite. Despite the madness, something you would never meet in Germany.
Flirt harder, I'm a coder.
mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: and it didn't make me really feel safer Here is today's news a man flying from Washington was stopped at Heathrow and they found some bullets in his pocket! http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/PA_NEWCRIMEHeathrowwe15airportb?source=[^]
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peterchen wrote: and it didn't make me really feel safer Here is today's news a man flying from Washington was stopped at Heathrow and they found some bullets in his pocket! http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/PA_NEWCRIMEHeathrowwe15airportb?source=[^]
"There is no monument dedicated to the memory of a committee." - Lester J. Pourciau
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peterchen wrote: and it didn't make me really feel safer Here is today's news a man flying from Washington was stopped at Heathrow and they found some bullets in his pocket! http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/PA_NEWCRIMEHeathrowwe15airportb?source=[^]
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First the article says "bullets", then it's "ammunition"... Am I the only one that is annoyed with the media's careless use of words in cases (no pun intended) like this? And if the paths that I have followed/have tread against the flow/there is no need for sorrow I am coming home Return, Crüxshadows
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First the article says "bullets", then it's "ammunition"... Am I the only one that is annoyed with the media's careless use of words in cases (no pun intended) like this? And if the paths that I have followed/have tread against the flow/there is no need for sorrow I am coming home Return, Crüxshadows
Nope, I'm annoyed by it also. Similiar to their usage of pistol when they mean revolver, automatic when they mean semi-automatic and the one you mentioned when they use bullets instead of ammunition. Also, the entire usage of "assault rifle" drives me nuts. Any rifle can be considered an assault rifle.
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Nope, I'm annoyed by it also. Similiar to their usage of pistol when they mean revolver, automatic when they mean semi-automatic and the one you mentioned when they use bullets instead of ammunition. Also, the entire usage of "assault rifle" drives me nuts. Any rifle can be considered an assault rifle.
Amen, brother :) And if the paths that I have followed/have tread against the flow/there is no need for sorrow I am coming home Return, Crüxshadows
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First the article says "bullets", then it's "ammunition"... Am I the only one that is annoyed with the media's careless use of words in cases (no pun intended) like this? And if the paths that I have followed/have tread against the flow/there is no need for sorrow I am coming home Return, Crüxshadows
I only get upset if either one goes through my body at a rather high velocity. :rolleyes: -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
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Nope, I'm annoyed by it also. Similiar to their usage of pistol when they mean revolver, automatic when they mean semi-automatic and the one you mentioned when they use bullets instead of ammunition. Also, the entire usage of "assault rifle" drives me nuts. Any rifle can be considered an assault rifle.
"assault rifle" sells more papers and attracts more viewers than "rifle". -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
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"assault rifle" sells more papers and attracts more viewers than "rifle". -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
And, if the article is short of a few words you can prepend assault on the front of each instance of rifle and you increase the size of the article a little. WMD can be expanded right out, or just to Weapons for a few extra words or characters making the article, again, look more impressive in size. Then again, you could just do what The Sun newspaper does in the UK and write your entire front page in a 144pt bold font. --Colin Mackay--
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And, if the article is short of a few words you can prepend assault on the front of each instance of rifle and you increase the size of the article a little. WMD can be expanded right out, or just to Weapons for a few extra words or characters making the article, again, look more impressive in size. Then again, you could just do what The Sun newspaper does in the UK and write your entire front page in a 144pt bold font. --Colin Mackay--
Assault Weapons of Mass Assault Destruction -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
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Assault Weapons of Mass Assault Destruction -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Assault Weapons of Mass Assault Destruction You know, there are times that Chris needs to remove the "FUCK!" filter :-) -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Assault Weapons of Mass Assault Destruction You know, there are times that Chris needs to remove the "FUCK!" filter :-) -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
Ian Darling wrote: You know, there are times that Chris needs to remove the "f***!" filter Since I have a very perverted mind: Why do you care if Chris is wearing a rubber or not? ;P :-D -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
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Back from Las Vegas: Been 4hrs early at the airport - yet we would have missed the plane by large had we go through "normal" economy check in. Not questioning the effectiveness*, yet just one thing: How long can US air carriers, and business in general, afford "orange"? Discuss.
*) One learns a lot by just going through there, and it didn't make me really feel safer. A must mention: the officer who did an extra check of my hand luggage on the way back. friendly, relaxed, polite. Despite the madness, something you would never meet in Germany.
Flirt harder, I'm a coder.
mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenVegas security is especially tough since it is assumed to be a target. Other cities much less so. I vacationed in Vegas last year in March. The line was roughly 2 hours long for the same reason. Personally I didn't mind as I'm assuming the wait was less onerous than death. Last month, shortly before the Christmas holidays I flew into New York for an overnight business trip. There were no real problems in or out. I just returned from a trip that included a change of planes in Washington DC and had there been lines I would have missed my connection. Luckily that wasn't the case. I travel on a relatively frequent basis and the long wait is the exception, not the rule. Personally I would prefer a system such as that emplyoe by Israel, if I understand it properly. The back ground checks wouldn't be fun nor would the need to be ticketed well in advance. I'm assuming that the in advance requirements reek havoc with last minute changes, but until the terrorist threats are eliminated I think any prudent measures to be well worth the effort. To actually answer the question as posited, the airlines are in deep trouble. The trouble IMO is not the security demands but the sheer fact of 9/11, those who fear flying now have ample reason to do so. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy
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Ian Darling wrote: You know, there are times that Chris needs to remove the "f***!" filter Since I have a very perverted mind: Why do you care if Chris is wearing a rubber or not? ;P :-D -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Since I have a very perverted mind: Why do you care if Chris is wearing a rubber or not? :laugh: Do I really need to answer that? :-D -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Since I have a very perverted mind: Why do you care if Chris is wearing a rubber or not? :laugh: Do I really need to answer that? :-D -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
Ian Darling wrote: Do I really need to answer that? Nah, it's up to you. I assume you are living in a free country (if not, you know who you can call to liberate you ;)) But either way, I will respect you. :rolleyes: :-D -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
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Ian Darling wrote: Do I really need to answer that? Nah, it's up to you. I assume you are living in a free country (if not, you know who you can call to liberate you ;)) But either way, I will respect you. :rolleyes: :-D -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Nah, it's up to you. I assume you are living in a free country (if not, you know who you can call to liberate you ) But either way, I will respect you. ;P :-) Well, I am living in a free country in the sense that I'm free to get taxed through the nose to fund an inefficient state, spied on because I might possibly have a Bacon index of 6 to some terrorists, and generally treated like an idiot child by our overbearing government lead by poodle Blair -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Nah, it's up to you. I assume you are living in a free country (if not, you know who you can call to liberate you ) But either way, I will respect you. ;P :-) Well, I am living in a free country in the sense that I'm free to get taxed through the nose to fund an inefficient state, spied on because I might possibly have a Bacon index of 6 to some terrorists, and generally treated like an idiot child by our overbearing government lead by poodle Blair -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
Sounds pretty much like my freedom, except for the spying part. I know they can (they have), but they're not permitted by law. But I don't think I've socialized with any members of dangerous groups, so I think I'm fairly safe. Ian Darling wrote: poodle Blair But he's gone soon now anyhow, isn't he, no matter what the outcome in the next election? -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
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Sounds pretty much like my freedom, except for the spying part. I know they can (they have), but they're not permitted by law. But I don't think I've socialized with any members of dangerous groups, so I think I'm fairly safe. Ian Darling wrote: poodle Blair But he's gone soon now anyhow, isn't he, no matter what the outcome in the next election? -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But he's gone soon now anyhow, isn't he, no matter what the outcome in the next election? BLair? No chance - I think he'll worm his way out if he loses the top-up fees vote, he'll worm his way out of the result of the Hutton report, and somehow squeak through the next general election (which will probably be next year). Hopefully the Tories and Lib Dems will reduce the Labour majority then though. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Sounds pretty much like my freedom, except for the spying part. I know they can (they have), but they're not permitted by law. But I don't think I've socialized with any members of dangerous groups, so I think I'm fairly safe. Heh, I sent an letter to my MP insulting the Home Secretary and his ID card policy :-) So I'm probably public enemy #1022 or something by now :sigh: -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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Sounds pretty much like my freedom, except for the spying part. I know they can (they have), but they're not permitted by law. But I don't think I've socialized with any members of dangerous groups, so I think I'm fairly safe. Ian Darling wrote: poodle Blair But he's gone soon now anyhow, isn't he, no matter what the outcome in the next election? -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But I don't think I've socialized with any members of dangerous groups CPians ?? :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Nope, I'm annoyed by it also. Similiar to their usage of pistol when they mean revolver, automatic when they mean semi-automatic and the one you mentioned when they use bullets instead of ammunition. Also, the entire usage of "assault rifle" drives me nuts. Any rifle can be considered an assault rifle.
jeff_martin wrote: Also, the entire usage of "assault rifle" drives me nuts. Any rifle can be considered an assault rifle. I don't know, I would make a distinction between a rifle and an assault rifle. The last is for me a specific category of weapons initiated by the Sturmgewehr-44[^].
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