Munich Shmunich
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This[^] is sad yet amusing in a way. How can you not have enough money to install a free operating system? How can you have technical difficultiees when you have all the source code? :rolleyes: Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
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This[^] is sad yet amusing in a way. How can you not have enough money to install a free operating system? How can you have technical difficultiees when you have all the source code? :rolleyes: Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
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This[^] is sad yet amusing in a way. How can you not have enough money to install a free operating system? How can you have technical difficultiees when you have all the source code? :rolleyes: Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
:laugh: Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
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This[^] is sad yet amusing in a way. How can you not have enough money to install a free operating system? How can you have technical difficultiees when you have all the source code? :rolleyes: Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
Maybe they have no staff trained in *nix. As for the source code, you still have to compile it with something, and make it work. GM could give me all the parts for my car, and I would look at it for a year and not know how to assemble it *correctly*. "For all of our languages, we cannot communicate" - Christy Moore, Natives
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Maybe they have no staff trained in *nix. As for the source code, you still have to compile it with something, and make it work. GM could give me all the parts for my car, and I would look at it for a year and not know how to assemble it *correctly*. "For all of our languages, we cannot communicate" - Christy Moore, Natives
Richard Jones wrote: Maybe they have no staff trained in *nix. As for the source code, you still have to compile it with something, and make it work I was actually being sarcastic because this Munich story was always being thrown about by overly zealous Linux advocates. So it's refreshing to note that there ARE hidden costs associated with open source software that people tend to gloss over :-) I believe they'll get it right someday, but it won't be easy. Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
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Maybe they have no staff trained in *nix. As for the source code, you still have to compile it with something, and make it work. GM could give me all the parts for my car, and I would look at it for a year and not know how to assemble it *correctly*. "For all of our languages, we cannot communicate" - Christy Moore, Natives
Richard Jones wrote: GM could give me all the parts for my car, and I would look at it for a year and not know how to assemble it *correctly*. But you would have fun doing it :) -- Howling winds keep screaming round, and the rain comes pouring down. Doors are locked and bolted, as the thing crawls into town. Nightcrawler!
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This[^] is sad yet amusing in a way. How can you not have enough money to install a free operating system? How can you have technical difficultiees when you have all the source code? :rolleyes: Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
I could belive. My money is that it was all planned out assuming that they would role out on new standardised harware, but they won't have the cash. So someone has to go around and install, but will find device driver glithes - and they are going to see what a pain in the ass Linux can be when it does not want to play nicely with the PC hardware or printers etc. This is just to get a desktop up. You then need to retrain people. Peope forget this. So many people do not understand how to copy a file, or even cut and paste. Then someone has to move all the office systems e.g. secret Access databases, spreadsheets etc over to the new software. By this time, they could have just kitted everyone out with new copies of Windows XP all around. Upgraded the servers, and given money back.
"Je pense, donc je mange." - Rene Descartes 1689 - Just before his mother put his tea on the table. Shameless Plug - Distributed Database Transactions in .NET using COM+
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I could belive. My money is that it was all planned out assuming that they would role out on new standardised harware, but they won't have the cash. So someone has to go around and install, but will find device driver glithes - and they are going to see what a pain in the ass Linux can be when it does not want to play nicely with the PC hardware or printers etc. This is just to get a desktop up. You then need to retrain people. Peope forget this. So many people do not understand how to copy a file, or even cut and paste. Then someone has to move all the office systems e.g. secret Access databases, spreadsheets etc over to the new software. By this time, they could have just kitted everyone out with new copies of Windows XP all around. Upgraded the servers, and given money back.
"Je pense, donc je mange." - Rene Descartes 1689 - Just before his mother put his tea on the table. Shameless Plug - Distributed Database Transactions in .NET using COM+
Giles wrote: This is just to get a desktop up. You then need to retrain people. Peope forget this. So many people do not understand how to copy a file, or even cut and paste. As someone who spent many years helping users learn how to copy and paste in windows I absolutely shudder to think of what it would take to train them to do simple file ops in Linux and how many disasters would ensue. Then someone has to move all the office systems e.g. secret Access databases, spreadsheets etc over to the new software. Even worse! I think if you really want to save money by integrating Linux somewhere into your operation it makes far more sense to replace your Windows or Novell file servers with Linux and keep windows workstations. Some of the server software licensing costs make desktop licensing and hardware costs look insignificant by comparison.
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I could belive. My money is that it was all planned out assuming that they would role out on new standardised harware, but they won't have the cash. So someone has to go around and install, but will find device driver glithes - and they are going to see what a pain in the ass Linux can be when it does not want to play nicely with the PC hardware or printers etc. This is just to get a desktop up. You then need to retrain people. Peope forget this. So many people do not understand how to copy a file, or even cut and paste. Then someone has to move all the office systems e.g. secret Access databases, spreadsheets etc over to the new software. By this time, they could have just kitted everyone out with new copies of Windows XP all around. Upgraded the servers, and given money back.
"Je pense, donc je mange." - Rene Descartes 1689 - Just before his mother put his tea on the table. Shameless Plug - Distributed Database Transactions in .NET using COM+
Giles wrote: I could belive. My money is that it was all planned out assuming that they would role out on new standardised harware, but they won't have the cash. So someone has to go around and install, but will find device driver glithes - and they are going to see what a pain in the ass Linux can be when it does not want to play nicely with the PC hardware or printers etc. I here you on the driver thing. My most recent computer will apparently not run full function linux. I can manage to get a console with no net access to work, nothing more. I have drivers for my soundcard and lan but I have never gotten them to properly compile. Not being able to install things like X and KDE may not be a bad thing for a server system, but setting up a good desktop linux machine is not fun. Giles wrote: Upgraded the servers, and given money back. A linux server could replace a windows servers cheaper because of server licensing, but again some of the same costs will come into play. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
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This[^] is sad yet amusing in a way. How can you not have enough money to install a free operating system? How can you have technical difficultiees when you have all the source code? :rolleyes: Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
Wait till they get the bill from SCO for the LINUX licenses - 14,000 units @ $700 each...that should bankrupt the city... Steve
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Giles wrote: This is just to get a desktop up. You then need to retrain people. Peope forget this. So many people do not understand how to copy a file, or even cut and paste. As someone who spent many years helping users learn how to copy and paste in windows I absolutely shudder to think of what it would take to train them to do simple file ops in Linux and how many disasters would ensue. Then someone has to move all the office systems e.g. secret Access databases, spreadsheets etc over to the new software. Even worse! I think if you really want to save money by integrating Linux somewhere into your operation it makes far more sense to replace your Windows or Novell file servers with Linux and keep windows workstations. Some of the server software licensing costs make desktop licensing and hardware costs look insignificant by comparison.
"A dope trailer is no place for a kitty..." - BubblesJohn Cardinal wrote: I think if you really want to save money by integrating Linux somewhere into your operation it makes far more sense to replace your Windows or Novell file servers with Linux and keep windows workstations. Some of the server software licensing costs make desktop licensing and hardware costs look insignificant by comparison. Yep, file server licencing and database licencing are the two places I would start.
"Je pense, donc je mange." - Rene Descartes 1689 - Just before his mother put his tea on the table. Shameless Plug - Distributed Database Transactions in .NET using COM+