If CP was a company...
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Well, as far as I can see "janitor" is still an acceptable term here in Scotland as it appears in newspapers and recruitment guides and so on. To me it is stupid. I vaguely remember a case going to court when I was still at school about a pupil that had moved from Scotland to somewhere in England (Birmingham IIRC). And for his crime the pupil had refered to the board that the teacher writes on as a "blackboard" (because that's what we call it in Scotland - and I assume other places too - and it is a board that is black). The teacher got offended somehow because in some parts of England it is called a "chalkboard"! --Colin Mackay--
Actually, I wholeheartedly support, in spirit, the things people try to accomplish with all this PC crap. I endorse the (perhaps American-centric) perspective that all people should be offered equal consideration and respect. It's one of the things our country was supposed to be founded upon. However, instead of eliminating prejudice and discrimination, this debilitating PC stuff does just the opposite. By agonizing over every little word we say (this person is a [fill in ethnic description]-American, that person is a [yet another label]-American, don't use this word, substitute that word...), we're effectively reinforcing the things that separate us. This does not unite us or bring us together in any way - it merely highlights our differences. I couldn't give a rat's rear end what someone's label is - all that matters is who they are as a person, and thus do I assess them. And I'm more interested in the point someone is trying to make than the particular word they happen to use. All that this PC stuff has done is transformed us into a people with no backbone, terrified of saying anything lest we offend some obscure faction. It has paralyzed us and encouraged the development of a risk averse society. Maybe it's an old fashioned concept, but I believe actions speak louder than words, and it is our actions over which we should agonize, not the random syllables we use to communicate. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Jim Crafton wrote: Plus it means a union Oh goody! An SQL guy! You're in! Amazing how quickly you can build a great organization when you know how to recognize talent! :cool:
I take it you'll be here all week then? :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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Actually, I wholeheartedly support, in spirit, the things people try to accomplish with all this PC crap. I endorse the (perhaps American-centric) perspective that all people should be offered equal consideration and respect. It's one of the things our country was supposed to be founded upon. However, instead of eliminating prejudice and discrimination, this debilitating PC stuff does just the opposite. By agonizing over every little word we say (this person is a [fill in ethnic description]-American, that person is a [yet another label]-American, don't use this word, substitute that word...), we're effectively reinforcing the things that separate us. This does not unite us or bring us together in any way - it merely highlights our differences. I couldn't give a rat's rear end what someone's label is - all that matters is who they are as a person, and thus do I assess them. And I'm more interested in the point someone is trying to make than the particular word they happen to use. All that this PC stuff has done is transformed us into a people with no backbone, terrified of saying anything lest we offend some obscure faction. It has paralyzed us and encouraged the development of a risk averse society. Maybe it's an old fashioned concept, but I believe actions speak louder than words, and it is our actions over which we should agonize, not the random syllables we use to communicate. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
I wholeheartedly support, in spirit I agree as well. However, like you say, that is unfortunately not how it has played out. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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Well obviously Scotland lags far behind the States in term of Political Correctness! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
Jim Crafton wrote: Well obviously Scotland lags far behind the States in term of Political Correctness That is not a bad thing. But even Scotland has had its share of "Political Correctness Gone Mad!": McConnell's no to a PC Christmas[^] The curse of political correctness hits Gaelic language[^] --Colin Mackay--
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I take it you'll be here all week then? :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
Jim Crafton wrote: I take it you'll be here all week then? Pretty much. Let's see - IPO on Thursday, lunch with the CEO, cash in the options Friday, yep - looks like I'm here till the weekend...
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Actually, I wholeheartedly support, in spirit, the things people try to accomplish with all this PC crap. I endorse the (perhaps American-centric) perspective that all people should be offered equal consideration and respect. It's one of the things our country was supposed to be founded upon. However, instead of eliminating prejudice and discrimination, this debilitating PC stuff does just the opposite. By agonizing over every little word we say (this person is a [fill in ethnic description]-American, that person is a [yet another label]-American, don't use this word, substitute that word...), we're effectively reinforcing the things that separate us. This does not unite us or bring us together in any way - it merely highlights our differences. I couldn't give a rat's rear end what someone's label is - all that matters is who they are as a person, and thus do I assess them. And I'm more interested in the point someone is trying to make than the particular word they happen to use. All that this PC stuff has done is transformed us into a people with no backbone, terrified of saying anything lest we offend some obscure faction. It has paralyzed us and encouraged the development of a risk averse society. Maybe it's an old fashioned concept, but I believe actions speak louder than words, and it is our actions over which we should agonize, not the random syllables we use to communicate. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
Christopher Duncan wrote: Actually, I wholeheartedly support You shouldn't use "wholeheartedly", it is demeaning to those with only half a heart. Christopher Duncan wrote: this debilitating PC stuff "debilitating"? Not very considerate of those with debilitating diseases. Christopher Duncan wrote: a rat's rear end Please don't insult rats by devaluing their rear ends. Christopher Duncan wrote: a people with no backbone Very insulting to those with spinal issues. Christopher Duncan wrote: It has paralyzed us Please be considerate of para- and quardra-palegics. Christopher Duncan wrote: an old fashioned Ageism. Christopher Duncan wrote: actions speak louder than words Not very considerate of the mute, are you? All of the above are used with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Oops, I just insulted all those without tongues or cheeks. :-D
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...where would you fit in? And/or, where would you like to fit in? In my company, its all about resources - finding the warm body with the skills to do X. I figure CodeProject has an embarrasment of riches - but who wants to do what? We're talking multi-national IT consulting firm here - what would you like to put on your card? Network admin? UI design specialist? Biztalk guy/gal? SQL Server person? QA? PM? Software Specialist? COO? Myself, I can make the speaker beep. Sadly, there's not a lot of call for this skill at the moment, but I'm hoping that's just indicative of a cyclical market. (No, I am not recruiting for CP or any other company. Just impressed by the range of talent that has become addicted to hangs out on CP, and thought I'd ask. Also, MMs post below got me thinking about skill/job targeting)
I would be the janitor. Less stress. :rolleyes: -- Seraphim Shock. Gold for your ears.
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Christopher Duncan wrote: Actually, I wholeheartedly support You shouldn't use "wholeheartedly", it is demeaning to those with only half a heart. Christopher Duncan wrote: this debilitating PC stuff "debilitating"? Not very considerate of those with debilitating diseases. Christopher Duncan wrote: a rat's rear end Please don't insult rats by devaluing their rear ends. Christopher Duncan wrote: a people with no backbone Very insulting to those with spinal issues. Christopher Duncan wrote: It has paralyzed us Please be considerate of para- and quardra-palegics. Christopher Duncan wrote: an old fashioned Ageism. Christopher Duncan wrote: actions speak louder than words Not very considerate of the mute, are you? All of the above are used with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Oops, I just insulted all those without tongues or cheeks. :-D
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: jeff_martin wrote: Oops, I just insulted all those without tongues or cheeks. Or perhaps those whose tongues are planted in the wrong... no, wait, don't want to get banished to the Soapbox... :-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Tim Deveaux wrote: Put your order in now, before we hire any Accounting Trolls :-D Well, for starters, I wouldn't mind a 6600[^], and a nice new Voodoo Notebook M600[^], and you may as well place an order for pretty much each item on ThinkGeek[^]... :rolleyes: How's my budget doing? ;P Paul ;)
Open the fridge door, scream, and everything that doesn't run into the corner is safe for eating. - Jörgen Sigvardsson
Paul van der Walt wrote: 6600 Waayy ahead of you, Skippy - I've had mine fair while now :-) But they are cool and work well. Just a shame that the rest of Nokia's supporting software (like PC Suite, Theme Studio, etc), are a load of crap :suss::| -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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l a u r e n wrote: plumber A somewhat off color remark came to mind regarding the typical plumber stereotypes about bending over and exposing certain aspects of their anterior anatomy, but then I rememberd that you beat on things with wooden sticks for fun, and thought better of it. :-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Paul van der Walt wrote: 6600 Waayy ahead of you, Skippy - I've had mine fair while now :-) But they are cool and work well. Just a shame that the rest of Nokia's supporting software (like PC Suite, Theme Studio, etc), are a load of crap :suss::| -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
Ian Darling wrote: I've had mine fair while now I know, that's one of the reasons I picked that model :) Ian Darling wrote: Nokia's supporting software (like PC Suite, Theme Studio, etc), are a load of crap That's disappointing... Their older stuff was nice to work with IMO (I've used 6210 and 8210 PC Suites) :( Paul ;)
Open the fridge door, scream, and everything that doesn't run into the corner is safe for eating. - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Excellent, but you'll want to report to Q - he has a few modifications to be put in place... ...oh, and do drive carefully...
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Company driver...but only if the company car is the new Ford GT[^] :cool:
I have also lived some years in Spain, and there people don't accept that you speak bad spanish. I usually compensate by speaking loud and accusing people of being stupid because they don't understand me. It usually works quite well. -jhaga on non-native languages
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Ian Darling wrote: I've had mine fair while now I know, that's one of the reasons I picked that model :) Ian Darling wrote: Nokia's supporting software (like PC Suite, Theme Studio, etc), are a load of crap That's disappointing... Their older stuff was nice to work with IMO (I've used 6210 and 8210 PC Suites) :( Paul ;)
Open the fridge door, scream, and everything that doesn't run into the corner is safe for eating. - Jörgen Sigvardsson
Paul van der Walt wrote: That's disappointing... Their older stuff was nice to work with IMO (I've used 6210 and 8210 PC Suites) Well, I haven't been able to get the connection for PC Suite to work (it should support Bluetooth connections, but it doesn't). Some of the problems with Theme Studio have been documented on my blog. You'll cringe at the sight of GEM Desktop era icons in a java implementation of the Open Dialog box. -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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Jim Crafton wrote: I take it you'll be here all week then? Pretty much. Let's see - IPO on Thursday, lunch with the CEO, cash in the options Friday, yep - looks like I'm here till the weekend...
You forgot a spurious lawsuit against some random entity for fabricated ip violations! That'll help drive up the stock prices before you cash out! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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...where would you fit in? And/or, where would you like to fit in? In my company, its all about resources - finding the warm body with the skills to do X. I figure CodeProject has an embarrasment of riches - but who wants to do what? We're talking multi-national IT consulting firm here - what would you like to put on your card? Network admin? UI design specialist? Biztalk guy/gal? SQL Server person? QA? PM? Software Specialist? COO? Myself, I can make the speaker beep. Sadly, there's not a lot of call for this skill at the moment, but I'm hoping that's just indicative of a cyclical market. (No, I am not recruiting for CP or any other company. Just impressed by the range of talent that has become addicted to hangs out on CP, and thought I'd ask. Also, MMs post below got me thinking about skill/job targeting)
I'd be the guy that never seems to do anything, yet makes 80,000 USD + a year. I guess I could probably be the guy that sprays the dust off the servers delicate components :) Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls
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Janitor. cheers, Chris Maunder
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...where would you fit in? And/or, where would you like to fit in? In my company, its all about resources - finding the warm body with the skills to do X. I figure CodeProject has an embarrasment of riches - but who wants to do what? We're talking multi-national IT consulting firm here - what would you like to put on your card? Network admin? UI design specialist? Biztalk guy/gal? SQL Server person? QA? PM? Software Specialist? COO? Myself, I can make the speaker beep. Sadly, there's not a lot of call for this skill at the moment, but I'm hoping that's just indicative of a cyclical market. (No, I am not recruiting for CP or any other company. Just impressed by the range of talent that has become addicted to hangs out on CP, and thought I'd ask. Also, MMs post below got me thinking about skill/job targeting)
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Janitor. cheers, Chris Maunder
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For a brief instant I read "flapper" and thought of "fluffer", and wondered, just *exactly* what kind of relationship do Roger and Chris have? What *really* goes on in the CP offices that Chris needs a "fluffer" and why on earth would Roger be volunteering for this. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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