Applications & OSes
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
I'd say NT based myself Joel Holdsworth
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
If I'm working for other, I do whatever he wants and if he wants to spend money, But don't forget that STILL 20% of windows OSes are 9X(win95 is included too,and WinMe is NOT included) , so its large number of computers. Anyway, I hate to do that for myself cause win9x really sucks. Mazy No sig. available now.
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
Joseph Dempsey wrote: Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... I haven't developed on a 9x operating system since 1997. I can believe any developer worth his salt, will still be using 9x as his primary development platform. It's just too unstable for real development use. Maybe you want to suggest a poll to Chris. "What Operating System is your primary development platform?" Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
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Joseph Dempsey wrote: Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... I haven't developed on a 9x operating system since 1997. I can believe any developer worth his salt, will still be using 9x as his primary development platform. It's just too unstable for real development use. Maybe you want to suggest a poll to Chris. "What Operating System is your primary development platform?" Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
Michael P Butler wrote: Maybe you want to suggest a poll to Chris. "What Operating System is your primary development platform?" I think thats been done before... I just don't remember the results :-O Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
I'd drop 9x. --Colin Mackay--
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Michael P Butler wrote: Maybe you want to suggest a poll to Chris. "What Operating System is your primary development platform?" I think thats been done before... I just don't remember the results :-O Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
Joseph Dempsey wrote: I think thats been done before... I just don't remember the results I've had a look and can't see any poll for that. Plenty on what o/s you target, but not what you develop on http://www.codeproject.com/script/survey/list.asp?Page=1[^] Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
I find it hard to believe there are developers who would prefer to develop on 9x. Out of necessity maybe but not out of preference. pseudonym67 Neural Dot Net Articles 1-11 Start Here Fuzzy Dot Net Articles 1-4 Start Here PathFinder Game Of Life 2 Life Wars
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
That's an easy one, it depends upon the target market for your business. Obviously you can't support w95 any longer due to Microsoft pretty much dropping support for it (JET and MDAC are good examples) and most 3rd party tool vendors don't support it as well. Our target market is small business and we know they have a lot of older computers so we continue to support w98 / me as well as anything newer. For developers and for a paid-for application I would suspect your target market would be very few 98 and ME and more than likely w2k, w2k3, xp etc. On the other hand if it's a free or open source app then you should target as 9x os's because I suspect a great many developers in the Open source crowd don't have new computers. On the third hand your just perpetuating use of older os's by releasing software for it. ;) Decisions like this are always a target market one. No one here will be able to give you a definitive answer that will be appropriate for you.
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
If the target is developers, and it's a "not-for-testing" tool, I'd Say NT-based systems only would be ok. However, if it's needed in a testing environment, things might differ. Example: if it could help me track down a bug, but the bug appears only on the Win9x Box, I will hate you.
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
I would target only Windows 2000 and later. I'd also use UNICODE. Anyone still using NT and prior is so cheap, it is very unlikely they'll buy your product anyway. Even if they do, the increased development and testing time would eat up all your potential profits (you'd probably actually have negative ROI.) One advantage of going with W2K and later is you can use additional APIs and features to make your product that much better. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
I just changed my compiler settings to build all my applications for nt 4.0 or better... John
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
If the target audience is developers then definitely NT/2000/XP. Do you really want to support a developer who uses ME ? :~ Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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If the target audience is developers then definitely NT/2000/XP. Do you really want to support a developer who uses ME ? :~ Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: Do you really want to support a developer who uses ME ? :~ Hadn't thought of it that way - good point :laugh: Paul ;)
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
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I am currently designing an application whose target audience is software developers and have come to an interesting cross roads. I am faced with the great OS debate... In my situation i am looking at developing this application to work on all platorms 9x/ME/2000/XP or just the NT based platorms of NT/2000/XP. Given that the time to make it 9x compatable is not a small amount what would most of you do ( remember target audience is only developers )? Do you spend the extra time & money to make the application compatiable across the board or do you just shun the smaller segment of your target audience and go for the more stable and easier to code for NT bases OSes? If you think the time and money should be invested in the 9x OSes can you back it with thoughts about the Return on Investment & Time to Market? Right now I am leanging toward the NT based OSes especially since support for all 9x family is going out .... Thoughts? Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
I looked back through the Code Project surveys, and found the following: What Operating Systems Do You Support?[^] How many operating systems do you target in your day to day programming?[^] What is the oldest Windows OS that you support?[^] What OS do you prefer to develop for?[^] My personal opinion is that developer tools should be targeted to the NT/2000/XP environment. Windows 9x/ME, while a perfectly valid target environment, isn't a very prominent developer environment.
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If I'm working for other, I do whatever he wants and if he wants to spend money, But don't forget that STILL 20% of windows OSes are 9X(win95 is included too,and WinMe is NOT included) , so its large number of computers. Anyway, I hate to do that for myself cause win9x really sucks. Mazy No sig. available now.
28% of Google searches in October and November 2003 were made using Windows 98 or 95 (Me's share is apparently too small to show), as opposed to 64% with Windows NT, 2000 or XP. (Source: Google Zeitgeist[^]). This is a very large swing in a year: the corresponding statistics for November 2002[^] show 43% Win9x-based, 49% NT-based. I don't see any reason to suppose that this trend will slow down. At this point I'd be prepared to say forget 9x for a new program, a lot of this 20% are likely to have upgraded by the end of the year. Other interesting statistics: Mac's share of installed base has fallen by about 1% this year, and Linux is still nailed to the floor with about 1% (which hasn't changed at all in the two years that Google have been publishing this analysis). Of course, some of the 4% 'Other' could be browsers that don't report the OS as part of their user agent string.