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Long term heat effects on PC's

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  • J Joe Woodbury

    Be careful if you vacuum a computer. Many vaccum cleaners generate static electricity. I suppose you could ground the vaccum hose, but I prefer to blast out the dust with compressed air. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    I have this special nozzle made out of plastic for my vacuum, designed specifically for vacuuming behind radiators and other difficult to reach areas, so I'm fairly safe. I hope. :-D No crash as of yet though. My SCSI controller however, did throw tantrums at me this past summer/fall when the sun was active. Joe Woodbury wrote: but I prefer to blast out the dust with compressed air Been there, done that. I just hate how the dust swirls out and around. I especially hate it when I accidently breathe it in. X| -- C'est normal!

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      I have a client that is running a PC (100mHz machine X| ) in a cupboard with a ambient temperature of over 40 degrees C (+104 F) :cool:. It has been running non stop for a couple of years. Now they are having: Printing problems :(( Video signal problems :(( And the sometimes system lock ups :(( Would you expect the PC to be damaged by long term heat effects? :doh: Would reducing the ambient temperature by installing a fan in the cupboard stabilize the PC? :confused: Also the CPU runs around 52 C, the BIOS temperature alarms start at 52 degrees C :omg: .

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      Anders Molin
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      AORD wrote: Also the CPU runs around 52 C, the BIOS temperature alarms start at 52 degrees C 52 degrees is nothing. No problem. The ambient of 40 should not be much problem, Intel recommend that as max room temperature for running XEON cpu's with standard coolers. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" My Photos[^]

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        I have a client that is running a PC (100mHz machine X| ) in a cupboard with a ambient temperature of over 40 degrees C (+104 F) :cool:. It has been running non stop for a couple of years. Now they are having: Printing problems :(( Video signal problems :(( And the sometimes system lock ups :(( Would you expect the PC to be damaged by long term heat effects? :doh: Would reducing the ambient temperature by installing a fan in the cupboard stabilize the PC? :confused: Also the CPU runs around 52 C, the BIOS temperature alarms start at 52 degrees C :omg: .

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        Lost User
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        CPUs are specified. at 70C for commerial parts, 85C for industrial parts. The biggest problem is temperature cycles so if you have kept it on all the time that is unlikely to be the problem. I would suspect the power supply - dust gradually builds up around components there that have to dissipate heat, their interna ltempertaure slowly increases. First step - vaccuum out the power supply, or replace it. They are cheap enough. I work for Celestica[^], we build little things like high end servers for *B* and S*n etc. amongst other things. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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          I have a client that is running a PC (100mHz machine X| ) in a cupboard with a ambient temperature of over 40 degrees C (+104 F) :cool:. It has been running non stop for a couple of years. Now they are having: Printing problems :(( Video signal problems :(( And the sometimes system lock ups :(( Would you expect the PC to be damaged by long term heat effects? :doh: Would reducing the ambient temperature by installing a fan in the cupboard stabilize the PC? :confused: Also the CPU runs around 52 C, the BIOS temperature alarms start at 52 degrees C :omg: .

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          Jon Newman
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          You could fry an egg on the bottom of the laptop I'm using now.


          Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]

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            You could fry an egg on the bottom of the laptop I'm using now.


            Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^]

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            Hey, you just gave me a good idea for an accessory to sell to laptop owners. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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            It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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            • J Joe Woodbury

              AORD wrote: Would you expect the PC to be damaged by long term heat effects? Definitely. I'm surprised it lasted this long. AORD wrote: Also the CPU runs around 52 C Good grief; you should be running it in the mid 30s. I would not only install a fan in the cupboard, I'd install a slot fan in the computer: http://www.3dcool.com/?module=product&sku=FC2002B[^] Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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              Joe Woodbury wrote: Good grief; you should be running it in the mid 30s. I was worried when my new boxes CPU runs at 63 degs when HT intercepts a JVM cycle, then drops to 43 degs. But I checked the Intel.com listing and it was normal. I think they must be making higher heat tolerances now. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                Hey, you just gave me a good idea for an accessory to sell to laptop owners. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                *** WARNING *
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                **The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "

                It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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                Colin Angus Mackay
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                Work on that report for your boss and make breakfast at the same time in a compact space saving design... :-D --Colin Mackay--

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                  Joe Woodbury wrote: Good grief; you should be running it in the mid 30s. I was worried when my new boxes CPU runs at 63 degs when HT intercepts a JVM cycle, then drops to 43 degs. But I checked the Intel.com listing and it was normal. I think they must be making higher heat tolerances now. Regardz Colin J Davies

                  *** WARNING *
                  This could be addictive
                  **The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "

                  It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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                  AORD
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                  What about one of the first pentiums (100mHz)? Isn't that when heat issues really started to show?

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    It may also have collected a lot of dust, which I know can cause the system to become instable. Have you tried vacuuming it? -- C'est normal!

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                    AORD
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                    Thanks that is a good idea :). Athough I think it is fairly clean. Also I have used a vacuum cleaner for cleaning surface mount machines. Being static safe we used one with a metal hose end which had its own earthed.

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                      I have a client that is running a PC (100mHz machine X| ) in a cupboard with a ambient temperature of over 40 degrees C (+104 F) :cool:. It has been running non stop for a couple of years. Now they are having: Printing problems :(( Video signal problems :(( And the sometimes system lock ups :(( Would you expect the PC to be damaged by long term heat effects? :doh: Would reducing the ambient temperature by installing a fan in the cupboard stabilize the PC? :confused: Also the CPU runs around 52 C, the BIOS temperature alarms start at 52 degrees C :omg: .

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                      goozmo
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                      the fact that it was still running is the unexpected fact. heat kills.

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                        I have a client that is running a PC (100mHz machine X| ) in a cupboard with a ambient temperature of over 40 degrees C (+104 F) :cool:. It has been running non stop for a couple of years. Now they are having: Printing problems :(( Video signal problems :(( And the sometimes system lock ups :(( Would you expect the PC to be damaged by long term heat effects? :doh: Would reducing the ambient temperature by installing a fan in the cupboard stabilize the PC? :confused: Also the CPU runs around 52 C, the BIOS temperature alarms start at 52 degrees C :omg: .

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                        Matt Newman
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                        That temp should be alright. What you may want to do is eradicate dust, see if you can find an active cooler for the processor (i.e. uses fan, not just heatsink etc) You may want to test a different power supply with it though. That could be creating some problems too. Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls

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