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    goozmo
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    i was recently chatting with someone from this board about XAML, and he mentioned my arguements (which i thought were quite insiteful) were mute because of something called the "jello effect". i didn't realize what he was talking about until i searched the net, and after going through pages after pages of bogus google links i ran across the most wonderful bit of code acknowleding it... i wonder why this concept hasn't been mentioned here before? i think someone needs to write an article about it. perhaps i will.

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      i was recently chatting with someone from this board about XAML, and he mentioned my arguements (which i thought were quite insiteful) were mute because of something called the "jello effect". i didn't realize what he was talking about until i searched the net, and after going through pages after pages of bogus google links i ran across the most wonderful bit of code acknowleding it... i wonder why this concept hasn't been mentioned here before? i think someone needs to write an article about it. perhaps i will.

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      David Stone
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      Care to share the link?


      "Garfield: The Movie" is poised to hit theaters this summer. I'm impressed that they've been able to take a 2D character with a 1D personality and bloat it into a 3D disaster. With a tagline like "it's all about ME-OW," you can be guaranteed the cinematic equivalence of having your hand fed to a wood chipper when this mind-dump hits the screen. -Maddox

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        Care to share the link?


        "Garfield: The Movie" is poised to hit theaters this summer. I'm impressed that they've been able to take a 2D character with a 1D personality and bloat it into a 3D disaster. With a tagline like "it's all about ME-OW," you can be guaranteed the cinematic equivalence of having your hand fed to a wood chipper when this mind-dump hits the screen. -Maddox

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        i don't have a link at the moment, but the whole "jello effect" concept is pretty amazing as it delves pretty deep. it transformed my MFC and C# programming. wonderful stuff!

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          i don't have a link at the moment, but the whole "jello effect" concept is pretty amazing as it delves pretty deep. it transformed my MFC and C# programming. wonderful stuff!

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          If there's "no link at the moment", care to share an abstract of the jello effect? the shorter, the better... [edit] I don't want to google for something involving Jello, and and up at sites that show me the teckniques of applocation of j... wait, this ain't the soapbox, right?[/edit]


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            i was recently chatting with someone from this board about XAML, and he mentioned my arguements (which i thought were quite insiteful) were mute because of something called the "jello effect". i didn't realize what he was talking about until i searched the net, and after going through pages after pages of bogus google links i ran across the most wonderful bit of code acknowleding it... i wonder why this concept hasn't been mentioned here before? i think someone needs to write an article about it. perhaps i will.

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            it is properly called the "jello effect method" and it rocks!!! :-D i worked with 3 coworkers to create a 150,000 line MFC application in fiarly short time and support has been super. haven't had many suprices. the boss has been really happy since.

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              i was recently chatting with someone from this board about XAML, and he mentioned my arguements (which i thought were quite insiteful) were mute because of something called the "jello effect". i didn't realize what he was talking about until i searched the net, and after going through pages after pages of bogus google links i ran across the most wonderful bit of code acknowleding it... i wonder why this concept hasn't been mentioned here before? i think someone needs to write an article about it. perhaps i will.

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              http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22jello+effect+method%22[^] returns: Your search - "jello effect method" - did not match any documents. Show me the links! Otherwise I will work on the assumption you're talking horse-manure :-) -- Ian Darling "The different versions of the UN*X brand operating system are numbered in a logical sequence: 5, 6, 7, 2, 2.9, 3, 4.0, III, 4.1, V, 4.2, V.2, and 4.3" - Alan Filipski

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                http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22jello+effect+method%22[^] returns: Your search - "jello effect method" - did not match any documents. Show me the links! Otherwise I will work on the assumption you're talking horse-manure :-) -- Ian Darling "The different versions of the UN*X brand operating system are numbered in a logical sequence: 5, 6, 7, 2, 2.9, 3, 4.0, III, 4.1, V, 4.2, V.2, and 4.3" - Alan Filipski

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                Ian Darling wrote: Otherwise I will work on the assumption you're talking horse-manure I already am. ;)


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                  Ian Darling wrote: Otherwise I will work on the assumption you're talking horse-manure I already am. ;)


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                  :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003

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                    :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003

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                    I suppose that the "jello effect method" might mean you write your apps in VB and only use the Variant type - that would be soft and squishy :-) -- Ian Darling "The different versions of the UN*X brand operating system are numbered in a logical sequence: 5, 6, 7, 2, 2.9, 3, 4.0, III, 4.1, V, 4.2, V.2, and 4.3" - Alan Filipski

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                      I suppose that the "jello effect method" might mean you write your apps in VB and only use the Variant type - that would be soft and squishy :-) -- Ian Darling "The different versions of the UN*X brand operating system are numbered in a logical sequence: 5, 6, 7, 2, 2.9, 3, 4.0, III, 4.1, V, 4.2, V.2, and 4.3" - Alan Filipski

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                      :laugh::laugh: Greetings,

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                        I suppose that the "jello effect method" might mean you write your apps in VB and only use the Variant type - that would be soft and squishy :-) -- Ian Darling "The different versions of the UN*X brand operating system are numbered in a logical sequence: 5, 6, 7, 2, 2.9, 3, 4.0, III, 4.1, V, 4.2, V.2, and 4.3" - Alan Filipski

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                        :laugh: and after a day of jelloing you would have to X| very appropriate.


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                          http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22jello+effect+method%22[^] returns: Your search - "jello effect method" - did not match any documents. Show me the links! Otherwise I will work on the assumption you're talking horse-manure :-) -- Ian Darling "The different versions of the UN*X brand operating system are numbered in a logical sequence: 5, 6, 7, 2, 2.9, 3, 4.0, III, 4.1, V, 4.2, V.2, and 4.3" - Alan Filipski

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                          First, it's worth noting that this method is kept secret for a reason, one which will become obvious shortly. Those spreading information on JEM are often killed, discredited, or labeled as trolls by those wishing to preserve the horrible truths of this evil cult. Cult? Yes. For a cult indeed it is. The jello effect method originated sometime around 1974, by satanic researchers at Xerox's PARC. Though details are sketchy, rumor has it that Charles "The Mad Hungarian" Simonyi was leading research in methods of converting the souls of programmers into gold. Finding alchemy to be unsuited for this purpose, he dabbled for a time in the religious practices of several obscure South American peoples. Finding, it seems, a small measure of success in these, he went on to devise his own rituals, two of which form the foundations of the cult previously mentioned. These rituals are: a method of annotating symbols with confusing prefixes, and The Jello Effect Method This ritual, for all the hype and obscurity that surrounds it, is as simple as it is terrifying. In some ways, it resembles one of the pillars of "Extreme Programming", in that it uses three (vs. XP's two) programmers working together at a single workstation. This similarity quickly fades however, as the trio are forced to work 24/7, with no time given for sleep or feeding. After several days of this, fatigue becomes unbearable. The first coder to drop is quickly killed by the two who remain, and the flesh and blood are consumed while still warm. Shards of broken MSDN CDs are the traditional utensil here. The bones, stripped of all meat and ligament, are placed in a large kettle, and covered with water. After being boiled for half a day, the liquid is poured off into a plastic replica of The Cursed Jello Mold of Skathaa'aka'tl, descriptions of which can be found (in all blood chilling detail) by a quick search on Google. When cooled, this jello is used as sustenance by the two remaining programmers (soon to be joined by a rookie, if this method is to be utilized long-term). When the jello runs out, the cycle repeats... Interestingly, this method (in spite of its radial approach and fanatical followers) has not been observed to produce productivity significantly greater than that of other industry fads.

                          But in the end, it's all just database access right? A

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                            First, it's worth noting that this method is kept secret for a reason, one which will become obvious shortly. Those spreading information on JEM are often killed, discredited, or labeled as trolls by those wishing to preserve the horrible truths of this evil cult. Cult? Yes. For a cult indeed it is. The jello effect method originated sometime around 1974, by satanic researchers at Xerox's PARC. Though details are sketchy, rumor has it that Charles "The Mad Hungarian" Simonyi was leading research in methods of converting the souls of programmers into gold. Finding alchemy to be unsuited for this purpose, he dabbled for a time in the religious practices of several obscure South American peoples. Finding, it seems, a small measure of success in these, he went on to devise his own rituals, two of which form the foundations of the cult previously mentioned. These rituals are: a method of annotating symbols with confusing prefixes, and The Jello Effect Method This ritual, for all the hype and obscurity that surrounds it, is as simple as it is terrifying. In some ways, it resembles one of the pillars of "Extreme Programming", in that it uses three (vs. XP's two) programmers working together at a single workstation. This similarity quickly fades however, as the trio are forced to work 24/7, with no time given for sleep or feeding. After several days of this, fatigue becomes unbearable. The first coder to drop is quickly killed by the two who remain, and the flesh and blood are consumed while still warm. Shards of broken MSDN CDs are the traditional utensil here. The bones, stripped of all meat and ligament, are placed in a large kettle, and covered with water. After being boiled for half a day, the liquid is poured off into a plastic replica of The Cursed Jello Mold of Skathaa'aka'tl, descriptions of which can be found (in all blood chilling detail) by a quick search on Google. When cooled, this jello is used as sustenance by the two remaining programmers (soon to be joined by a rookie, if this method is to be utilized long-term). When the jello runs out, the cycle repeats... Interestingly, this method (in spite of its radial approach and fanatical followers) has not been observed to produce productivity significantly greater than that of other industry fads.

                            But in the end, it's all just database access right? A

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                            Shog9 wrote: Cult? Yes. For a cult indeed it is. The jello effect method originated sometime around 1974, by satanic researchers at Xerox's PARC. :-D Isn't Bill Cosby involved in this cult too? I have heard rumors.:~ :suss: Later, JoeSox Love is a virus we benefit from. joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                              Care to share the link?


                              "Garfield: The Movie" is poised to hit theaters this summer. I'm impressed that they've been able to take a 2D character with a 1D personality and bloat it into a 3D disaster. With a tagline like "it's all about ME-OW," you can be guaranteed the cinematic equivalence of having your hand fed to a wood chipper when this mind-dump hits the screen. -Maddox

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                              Mike Dimmick
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                              I remember reading something about creating a Gel Button[^] (i.e. a button that looks a lot like those in OS X) using Avalon, but I don't think that's what's being referred to.

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