MSN Site
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It seems that the MSN website is not rendering web pages for non-IE browsers. Further, the guys that develop Opera say that MSN is specifically targetting their browser. If you change the ID string by a single character, MSN lets the browser render the page. If you connect with an unmodified Opera, it refuses to render the page. I guess that's their right to do so, but it doesn't put Microsoft into a very good light considering the pending legal actions it's facing. This just adds more fuel to the claims that MS is monopolistic. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
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It seems that the MSN website is not rendering web pages for non-IE browsers. Further, the guys that develop Opera say that MSN is specifically targetting their browser. If you change the ID string by a single character, MSN lets the browser render the page. If you connect with an unmodified Opera, it refuses to render the page. I guess that's their right to do so, but it doesn't put Microsoft into a very good light considering the pending legal actions it's facing. This just adds more fuel to the claims that MS is monopolistic. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
I tested it with the latest Opera (v5.12) and it fails, but offers to let you D/L IE. I have no idea what MSFT is thinking. Talk about a PR blunder. Mike Mullikin "Real programmers don't document their code. It was hard to write - it should be hard to read!"
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It seems that the MSN website is not rendering web pages for non-IE browsers. Further, the guys that develop Opera say that MSN is specifically targetting their browser. If you change the ID string by a single character, MSN lets the browser render the page. If you connect with an unmodified Opera, it refuses to render the page. I guess that's their right to do so, but it doesn't put Microsoft into a very good light considering the pending legal actions it's facing. This just adds more fuel to the claims that MS is monopolistic. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
I've had trouble with page loads for two days on http://www.msnbc.com I did a little poking around and it looks like Akamai is screwing up the caching somehow. Now sure if that's related... I wasn't sure if you were saying MSN has announced that they've stopped supporting Netscape, of if it's just a bug. David http://www.dundas.com
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I've had trouble with page loads for two days on http://www.msnbc.com I did a little poking around and it looks like Akamai is screwing up the caching somehow. Now sure if that's related... I wasn't sure if you were saying MSN has announced that they've stopped supporting Netscape, of if it's just a bug. David http://www.dundas.com
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It seems that the MSN website is not rendering web pages for non-IE browsers. Further, the guys that develop Opera say that MSN is specifically targetting their browser. If you change the ID string by a single character, MSN lets the browser render the page. If you connect with an unmodified Opera, it refuses to render the page. I guess that's their right to do so, but it doesn't put Microsoft into a very good light considering the pending legal actions it's facing. This just adds more fuel to the claims that MS is monopolistic. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
Is Microsoft trying to kill itself? I have viewed most of Microsoft's previous actions as acceptable business actions but since WinXP was announced Microsoft has been screwing up. I'm waiting for reports from Netscape users that Netscape will not load on WinXP. As in the code in WinXP checks if a window's name has "Netscape" in it.
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Is Microsoft trying to kill itself? I have viewed most of Microsoft's previous actions as acceptable business actions but since WinXP was announced Microsoft has been screwing up. I'm waiting for reports from Netscape users that Netscape will not load on WinXP. As in the code in WinXP checks if a window's name has "Netscape" in it.
I seriously think that Microsoft assumes they're screwed and are going to push the issue just as far as they can until the court case is over. It seems to me like they are no longer showing any restraint whatsoever. In some ways it is kinda cool to watch. David http://www.dundas.com
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It seems that the MSN website is not rendering web pages for non-IE browsers. Further, the guys that develop Opera say that MSN is specifically targetting their browser. If you change the ID string by a single character, MSN lets the browser render the page. If you connect with an unmodified Opera, it refuses to render the page. I guess that's their right to do so, but it doesn't put Microsoft into a very good light considering the pending legal actions it's facing. This just adds more fuel to the claims that MS is monopolistic. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
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It seems that the MSN website is not rendering web pages for non-IE browsers. Further, the guys that develop Opera say that MSN is specifically targetting their browser. If you change the ID string by a single character, MSN lets the browser render the page. If you connect with an unmodified Opera, it refuses to render the page. I guess that's their right to do so, but it doesn't put Microsoft into a very good light considering the pending legal actions it's facing. This just adds more fuel to the claims that MS is monopolistic. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
Well hopefully it is a bug in the site or someone has just been fired and wanted to get even. Of course, it could be argued that it is their site and they can decide who views what. It's not as if it is a site of critical importance to the web. There are plenty of better portals out there. Michael :-)
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I seriously think that Microsoft assumes they're screwed and are going to push the issue just as far as they can until the court case is over. It seems to me like they are no longer showing any restraint whatsoever. In some ways it is kinda cool to watch. David http://www.dundas.com
It's quite funny when you think about it, and for some reason, it doesn't make me dislike MS at all. I think their next move is to use digital signatures to stop any third party (non-microsoft) software running on Windows 2004. Damn, no more staroffice for me...:rolleyes: --- "Transmit in all known frequencies and in all known langauges, including Welsh."
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It's quite funny when you think about it, and for some reason, it doesn't make me dislike MS at all. I think their next move is to use digital signatures to stop any third party (non-microsoft) software running on Windows 2004. Damn, no more staroffice for me...:rolleyes: --- "Transmit in all known frequencies and in all known langauges, including Welsh."
Damn, no more staroffice for me... Are you serious? I tried StarOffice for Windows and it's sloooooooooooooow... :) Regards, Wanderley
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Damn, no more staroffice for me... Are you serious? I tried StarOffice for Windows and it's sloooooooooooooow... :) Regards, Wanderley
It's actually not that bad. Staroffice 6 is in beta at the moment, and whilst Sun have stripped it down since v5.2 (a lot of features taken out), it's looking promising. Very unstable (which is to be expected for a beta), but loading times (due to the removal of the integrated desktop) and Word Processor features (from starwriter) are nearly on par with MS Word. It's also now based on sun's openoffice project - http://www.openoffice.org. You can't go wrong for no cost really. :) --- "Transmit in all known frequencies and in all known langauges, including Welsh."
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Well hopefully it is a bug in the site or someone has just been fired and wanted to get even. Of course, it could be argued that it is their site and they can decide who views what. It's not as if it is a site of critical importance to the web. There are plenty of better portals out there. Michael :-)
Nope, they admitted to it Jon Sagara I can't think of anything original to say.
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It seems that the MSN website is not rendering web pages for non-IE browsers. Further, the guys that develop Opera say that MSN is specifically targetting their browser. If you change the ID string by a single character, MSN lets the browser render the page. If you connect with an unmodified Opera, it refuses to render the page. I guess that's their right to do so, but it doesn't put Microsoft into a very good light considering the pending legal actions it's facing. This just adds more fuel to the claims that MS is monopolistic. To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
If that's true and is motivated by a desire to push IE ahead of other browsers (just try proving that!) it's a real inditement. Having said that, it's more likely that they will have decided that they couldn't justify the effort, based on the (probably small) percentage of visitors using other browsers to visit the site. This raises an interesting question in my mind: which is more "standards compliant" - IE6 or Opera? If the answer is IE6, upgrading Opera to latest standards >i>might sort it. Then again, maybe not. Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))
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Nope, they admitted to it Jon Sagara I can't think of anything original to say.
Hmmm. Conspiracy, anyone? (milk and one lump for me) I can't think of anything original to say either. It sure does show... Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))
