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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
I'm really sorry to hear that :( But I installed the patch yesterday and rebooted and haven't had any problem with it. Everything seems to work fine here. Good luck, and I hope you recover something. -- LuisR ────────────── Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com "San Franciso - where men are men - er - women are men - ugh - men are women, and well, the sheep are confused." -- John Simmons, Jun. 25, 2003
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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
Ok ...the best thing right now is calm down... Leave the computer OFF! Go to another computer (preferibly another XP machine with a CDRW drive) get http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm[^]. After you download and install this grab a Knoppix ISO (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html[^]), once its download burn it to the cd by right clicking on the iso and click on "Burn ISO to CD" .. then go to your messed up machine with the Knoppix disk, turn on the machine and put the disk in as fast as you can and make the computer boot from the CD, now you have access to all your files, which It will not write any thing to the hard drive but you can recover the files. This is espically helpful when you accidently delete a file with NTFS and can't afford NTFS recover tools (knoppix has ntfs support built in) This is your safest solution. -Steven Hicks
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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
:wtf: That really sucks, man. I have not run into any problems like that with Windows Update. But then again, I am pretty cautious anyway... I use DriveImage on my OS drive and keep all the important stuff (e.g., source code :-D ) on another drive. "I'd be up a piece if I hadn't swallowed my bishop." Mr. Ed, playing chess
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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
Yes, I installed it on a test machine, and it said that <Windows root>\System32\ntoskrnl.exe was corrupt or missing. I haven't even begun to try to figure out what's wrong, though. I'll probably just format it and be done with it. I know that's not an option for you, and I sympathize. :rose:
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Ok ...the best thing right now is calm down... Leave the computer OFF! Go to another computer (preferibly another XP machine with a CDRW drive) get http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm[^]. After you download and install this grab a Knoppix ISO (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html[^]), once its download burn it to the cd by right clicking on the iso and click on "Burn ISO to CD" .. then go to your messed up machine with the Knoppix disk, turn on the machine and put the disk in as fast as you can and make the computer boot from the CD, now you have access to all your files, which It will not write any thing to the hard drive but you can recover the files. This is espically helpful when you accidently delete a file with NTFS and can't afford NTFS recover tools (knoppix has ntfs support built in) This is your safest solution. -Steven Hicks
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Good Advice there. Doesn't sound like you harmed any linux penquins with that sage advice. BTW doesn't say much for NTFS security when anybody can access all of NTFS files with out regard to security or user permissions. I wonder if longhorn will or could fix this? Actually I hope that it can't. I kind of like know a simple little secret about recovering my files with a bootable CD Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
About half of the Windows Updates I've allowed on my machines have completely destroyed them. It's always a crap shoot, and I usually lose. There's never been a successful recovery, and a full reinstallation of Windows has been required each time. Never trust anything from Microsoft until several million people have installed it before you. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
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About half of the Windows Updates I've allowed on my machines have completely destroyed them. It's always a crap shoot, and I usually lose. There's never been a successful recovery, and a full reinstallation of Windows has been required each time. Never trust anything from Microsoft until several million people have installed it before you. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
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Ok ...the best thing right now is calm down... Leave the computer OFF! Go to another computer (preferibly another XP machine with a CDRW drive) get http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm[^]. After you download and install this grab a Knoppix ISO (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html[^]), once its download burn it to the cd by right clicking on the iso and click on "Burn ISO to CD" .. then go to your messed up machine with the Knoppix disk, turn on the machine and put the disk in as fast as you can and make the computer boot from the CD, now you have access to all your files, which It will not write any thing to the hard drive but you can recover the files. This is espically helpful when you accidently delete a file with NTFS and can't afford NTFS recover tools (knoppix has ntfs support built in) This is your safest solution. -Steven Hicks
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:wtf: That really sucks, man. I have not run into any problems like that with Windows Update. But then again, I am pretty cautious anyway... I use DriveImage on my OS drive and keep all the important stuff (e.g., source code :-D ) on another drive. "I'd be up a piece if I hadn't swallowed my bishop." Mr. Ed, playing chess
Ya, I'm pretty cautious too, which is why I do backups regularly. Didn't expect both the backup drive and the main drive to fail on the same day though. I still have a remaining backup, but it's my December monthly which is a little old. If only I'd put in my RAID controller and drives yesterday instead of leaving them sitting here on my desk... :sigh: Drew.
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Good Advice there. Doesn't sound like you harmed any linux penquins with that sage advice. BTW doesn't say much for NTFS security when anybody can access all of NTFS files with out regard to security or user permissions. I wonder if longhorn will or could fix this? Actually I hope that it can't. I kind of like know a simple little secret about recovering my files with a bootable CD Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
If the encryption isn't built into the file system, there isn't much you can do. Take any file system and access it using a 3rd party program and the security settings don't mean ****. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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Funny, I've done every single update since they started that thing and this is the first time I've had a problem. In fact, I don't believe I've ever had to reinstall XP Pro. Until now, that is. Drew.
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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
I've installed the update on a W98SE, 2 x W2K Pro and an XP Pro system and they all work fine. The only wierd thing I have seen is with the W98SE machine - when the system gets ready to reboot, IE shuts down with an error (because the update changed some of the IE dll files) - which I would expect. Steve
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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
First, calm down, your machine is ok, you just lost your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry hive. Since it stores important information about your system configuration, your machine cannot boot anymore. You just need your Windows XP installation CD, some patience AND CAREFUL READING: Q307545 How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP from Starting Really - it works. I've used it several times. I don't know why, but it happens a lot on Windows XP. It has nothing to do with your upgrade patch, just write a lot to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and then reboot, bang! [edit]BTW, if you are careful, you can do all the steps right on the recovery console, without ever booting into Windows. And you don't need to recover all registry files, only SYSTEM. Don't forget to reapply the IE patch after you recover your machine.[/edit] Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski
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First, calm down, your machine is ok, you just lost your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry hive. Since it stores important information about your system configuration, your machine cannot boot anymore. You just need your Windows XP installation CD, some patience AND CAREFUL READING: Q307545 How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP from Starting Really - it works. I've used it several times. I don't know why, but it happens a lot on Windows XP. It has nothing to do with your upgrade patch, just write a lot to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and then reboot, bang! [edit]BTW, if you are careful, you can do all the steps right on the recovery console, without ever booting into Windows. And you don't need to recover all registry files, only SYSTEM. Don't forget to reapply the IE patch after you recover your machine.[/edit] Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski
Thinking back, this did happen to me once - my system crashed (to a blue screen) while Windows Update was updating my system - I suspect that the system was writting to the registery when the crash occured. Using the Q307545 procedure brought my system back to its previous restore point which was about 4 months back - the only thing that caused problems afterwards was MS Office - the software had one of the service packs installed, but the registery didn't know about it - so I could not add anymore updates nor could I repair or even uninstall it to put things back together - a few emails back and forth to MS gave me the registery keys to delete to allow me to reinstall Office. That reminds me, I should do a manual restore point - just to be safe...:sigh: Steve
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About half of the Windows Updates I've allowed on my machines have completely destroyed them. It's always a crap shoot, and I usually lose. There's never been a successful recovery, and a full reinstallation of Windows has been required each time. Never trust anything from Microsoft until several million people have installed it before you. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...Roger Wright wrote: About half of the Windows Updates I've allowed on my machines have completely destroyed them I've been there myself. There was a period (about half a year ago) when I dared not install Windows Updates. But when I returned to the US from my most recent trip back to Australia it was time to reinstall Windows anyway. So I bit the bullet and installed all the updates* (same hardware) and it all worked just fine. I don't know if it's an order of installation thing or what but the bad experiences I've had with Windows Update seem to have gone away. *The logic was that I'm rebuilding this machine anyway, so if it goes north within a week or two I haven't lost much. Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
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First, calm down, your machine is ok, you just lost your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry hive. Since it stores important information about your system configuration, your machine cannot boot anymore. You just need your Windows XP installation CD, some patience AND CAREFUL READING: Q307545 How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP from Starting Really - it works. I've used it several times. I don't know why, but it happens a lot on Windows XP. It has nothing to do with your upgrade patch, just write a lot to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and then reboot, bang! [edit]BTW, if you are careful, you can do all the steps right on the recovery console, without ever booting into Windows. And you don't need to recover all registry files, only SYSTEM. Don't forget to reapply the IE patch after you recover your machine.[/edit] Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski
When that happen I usually connect the bad harddisk as slave and then boot up with another harddisk and restore the registry that way. jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
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When that happen I usually connect the bad harddisk as slave and then boot up with another harddisk and restore the registry that way. jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
jhaga wrote: When that happen I usually connect the bad harddisk as slave and then boot up with another harddisk and restore the registry that way. This is easier, but once assembled, I just hate opening my machine. X| Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski
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Good Advice there. Doesn't sound like you harmed any linux penquins with that sage advice. BTW doesn't say much for NTFS security when anybody can access all of NTFS files with out regard to security or user permissions. I wonder if longhorn will or could fix this? Actually I hope that it can't. I kind of like know a simple little secret about recovering my files with a bootable CD Jeff Patterson Programmers speak in Code. http://www.anti-dmca.org[^]
Right-click the file(s) you want to protect, choose Properties, Advanced, then check Encrypt contents to secure data. Click OK to apply the change. Then make damn sure you back up your System State, because if the encryption key and the administrator's recovery key are lost, you'll never get access to those files again. Works on Windows 2000 and later on NTFS drives.
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First, calm down, your machine is ok, you just lost your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry hive. Since it stores important information about your system configuration, your machine cannot boot anymore. You just need your Windows XP installation CD, some patience AND CAREFUL READING: Q307545 How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP from Starting Really - it works. I've used it several times. I don't know why, but it happens a lot on Windows XP. It has nothing to do with your upgrade patch, just write a lot to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and then reboot, bang! [edit]BTW, if you are careful, you can do all the steps right on the recovery console, without ever booting into Windows. And you don't need to recover all registry files, only SYSTEM. Don't forget to reapply the IE patch after you recover your machine.[/edit] Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski
On the contrary, I have never ever had a corrupted registry on an NT-based operating system. If it happens, it's likely to be that what got written to disk isn't what got written to memory. This can be caused by a variety of things, such as corruption of the memory itself, a disk controller fault, or a disk fault. The first can happen if your system is run out of spec (or simply has dodgy RAM) or if the connection is poor. The others are fairly obvious. I'll have to admit, my experience is that Windows (NT) is very reliable. For me, even Windows 9x was quite reliable. I've had very solid hardware, and when things have started to go wrong, I've looked for a hardware or driver fault before blaming the software.
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So, my little automatic update icon says there's a new update. I install it. Upon the required reboot I get an error message saying that ...\system32\config\system is corrupted. I try the recovery console, but the drive is unreadable. No big deal, I've got a backup. I swap 'em around and I'm off and running. The drive utilities even manage to fix the drive, except for the areas the contain my project backups. My software guy asks if he should install the update. I, not thinking that the update had anything to do with it, say "sure." Now his main drive is dead (and I mean really dead). The utilities can't fix this one. His drive had all of our projects on it. The first drive to die had all of the current backups. :~ Has anyone else run into this problem with the windows updates (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1) ? Any suggestions as to data recovery companies in Canada? This is worth about $15000 to me in terms of the wages I'm going to have to pay to get back to where we are now from the most recent useable backup. I think I'm about to have a heart attack. The sad thing is I just received some new serial ATA drives and a RAID controller yesterday. Just haven't installed them yet. :(( Drew.
Coincidentally a colleague's hard drive failed last night/this morning. What's a bit worrying is that this system is the one used to take backups of the network drives (written to DVD+RW in the morning). It appears that the backup succeeded, but that's no use considering that the disk's dead. The obvious signs were that the PC wouldn't wake up, then when rebooted it displayed the detected drive string, but then said 'Primary hard drive failure'. After checking the connections, and restarting, the BIOS wouldn't even detect it any more. Mind you, the drive is a Maxtor, what do you expect? :-D