I built my first Linux box today.
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Yay. I been a computer geek for over 5 years now and I finally made my first Linux PC. I just installed RedHat 9 on a MicroATX 466 MHz Celeron with about 128MB of PC100 RAM. I'm building this PC as a project for 2-3 of my classes in school. It's going to be made to just play MP3s and be controlled remotely (no monitor/mouse/keyboard) from another PC on a network. It's networked wirelessly as well so I don't have cables running to it. The only thing sticking out of it will be the power cable. Now, since I'm such a total n00b, I can't find the real stuff on how to make this works on it. I have a Wireless PCI NIC in there that has Linux driver for it's chipset, but I can't figure out how to install the damn thing. Anybody here know of any links for total n00bs who want to install hardware on RedHat 9? I'm writing an 'article' on it documenting what I did and how I did it so I can turn it for my final projects. When I'm done I'll post a link as well. Well, if anybody's interested in it that is.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
Congratulations ! Welcome to the wacky, wonderful world of unix, where you too can spend hours staring at obscure, undocumented text files spread all over a file system that thinks that everything in the world is a file, and a text file at that! If you're truly lucky you'll be treated to something like this guy[^], which sort of relates to your question. Seriously I admin a couple of boxes at work with both Solaris and Linux on them (RH 8) - and spent the last couple of days wondering why the snmp monitor was not tracking routers correctly, only to discover that the text file that it looked in for the list of routers to connect to had a mistake. In fact, a mistake so grave, so devious, so wrought with heartache and misery that I hesitate to even write about it. Yep, the dreaded white space (" ") character. Since the only seperator between entries was a carriage return, and the last field of an entry had some trailing space characters, the snmp program took that and interpereted it as valid characters. So the community string that was supposed to be "xyz" was actually "xyz " in the file, and of course thats a completely different value! Weee, joy, joy, fun, fun. Have fun! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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Yay. I been a computer geek for over 5 years now and I finally made my first Linux PC. I just installed RedHat 9 on a MicroATX 466 MHz Celeron with about 128MB of PC100 RAM. I'm building this PC as a project for 2-3 of my classes in school. It's going to be made to just play MP3s and be controlled remotely (no monitor/mouse/keyboard) from another PC on a network. It's networked wirelessly as well so I don't have cables running to it. The only thing sticking out of it will be the power cable. Now, since I'm such a total n00b, I can't find the real stuff on how to make this works on it. I have a Wireless PCI NIC in there that has Linux driver for it's chipset, but I can't figure out how to install the damn thing. Anybody here know of any links for total n00bs who want to install hardware on RedHat 9? I'm writing an 'article' on it documenting what I did and how I did it so I can turn it for my final projects. When I'm done I'll post a link as well. Well, if anybody's interested in it that is.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
nssone wrote: Now, since I'm such a total n00b, I can't find the real stuff on how to make this works on it. I have a Wireless PCI NIC in there that has Linux driver for it's chipset, but I can't figure out how to install the damn thing. Anybody here know of any links for total n00bs who want to install hardware on RedHat 9 Had the same thing - downloaded the drivers for my WLAN NIC and went ":wtf:" Spent a week trying to figure it out, then reinstalled Window$ on it - I'm a self-proclaimed Windows-weenie ;P That's not to say I won't experiment with linux again (I have many times in the past, and enjoyed it) but until WLAN gets easier I might wait a tad :) Paul ;)
van der walt is qualified to answer - googlism
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Yay. I been a computer geek for over 5 years now and I finally made my first Linux PC. I just installed RedHat 9 on a MicroATX 466 MHz Celeron with about 128MB of PC100 RAM. I'm building this PC as a project for 2-3 of my classes in school. It's going to be made to just play MP3s and be controlled remotely (no monitor/mouse/keyboard) from another PC on a network. It's networked wirelessly as well so I don't have cables running to it. The only thing sticking out of it will be the power cable. Now, since I'm such a total n00b, I can't find the real stuff on how to make this works on it. I have a Wireless PCI NIC in there that has Linux driver for it's chipset, but I can't figure out how to install the damn thing. Anybody here know of any links for total n00bs who want to install hardware on RedHat 9? I'm writing an 'article' on it documenting what I did and how I did it so I can turn it for my final projects. When I'm done I'll post a link as well. Well, if anybody's interested in it that is.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
nssone wrote: made to just play MP3s I have also been installing RedHat 9 but as it turns out, I can't get the soundcard to work. And the and all fonts that I have found are just plain ugly.. jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
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Congratulations ! Welcome to the wacky, wonderful world of unix, where you too can spend hours staring at obscure, undocumented text files spread all over a file system that thinks that everything in the world is a file, and a text file at that! If you're truly lucky you'll be treated to something like this guy[^], which sort of relates to your question. Seriously I admin a couple of boxes at work with both Solaris and Linux on them (RH 8) - and spent the last couple of days wondering why the snmp monitor was not tracking routers correctly, only to discover that the text file that it looked in for the list of routers to connect to had a mistake. In fact, a mistake so grave, so devious, so wrought with heartache and misery that I hesitate to even write about it. Yep, the dreaded white space (" ") character. Since the only seperator between entries was a carriage return, and the last field of an entry had some trailing space characters, the snmp program took that and interpereted it as valid characters. So the community string that was supposed to be "xyz" was actually "xyz " in the file, and of course thats a completely different value! Weee, joy, joy, fun, fun. Have fun! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
Jim Crafton wrote: So the community string that was supposed to be "xyz" was actually "xyz " in the file, and of course thats a completely different value! Weee, joy, joy, fun, fun. You should write a nice heart warming email to the author of the config file module of that snmp monitor. :rolleyes: -- Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein.
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Jim Crafton wrote: So the community string that was supposed to be "xyz" was actually "xyz " in the file, and of course thats a completely different value! Weee, joy, joy, fun, fun. You should write a nice heart warming email to the author of the config file module of that snmp monitor. :rolleyes: -- Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein.
Trust me, once I figured that out, there were some choice words streaming out of my mouth, non of them terribly heart warming. :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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nssone wrote: made to just play MP3s I have also been installing RedHat 9 but as it turns out, I can't get the soundcard to work. And the and all fonts that I have found are just plain ugly.. jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
I see you all have ventured into the wonderful world of desktop linux. Its a strainful process. Being a debian user I am not totally familiar with redhat but here is some points. Sound cards: Redhat has ALSA installed. This is an advanced set of modules (drivers) already installed on your machine. Find the name of the linux driver that matches you card then use the command modprobe (without .o) You can use the /proc filesystem to see what the hardware is identified as, even if drive not attached. Wireless cards: Yes a little hacking is required, but you must make sure that pcmcia is installed. This will load the modules required etc. However, I am quoting this from a laptop point of view; but wireless pci cards are just pc card re package for wireless. you to install wireless tools (iwconfig) etc. Find the wireless howto for this. I have a Atmel chipset card and this required a little configuration. What I had to do was plugin the card, the card was not bound to a device but you can get the manid using the SU command: cardctl ident this displays the pcmcia slots card info. Normally if you copy the manufacture id and paste that into google you'll find the next entry or matching driver. I had to add an entry to the /etc/pcmcia/atmel.conf file binding the atmel driver to the manuid so it new which driver to use when I plugged the card in. You also need to configure /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opt but the file has lots of comments in it. blah blah blah Linux is soo much fun :)
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nssone wrote: Now, since I'm such a total n00b, I can't find the real stuff on how to make this works on it. I have a Wireless PCI NIC in there that has Linux driver for it's chipset, but I can't figure out how to install the damn thing. Anybody here know of any links for total n00bs who want to install hardware on RedHat 9 Had the same thing - downloaded the drivers for my WLAN NIC and went ":wtf:" Spent a week trying to figure it out, then reinstalled Window$ on it - I'm a self-proclaimed Windows-weenie ;P That's not to say I won't experiment with linux again (I have many times in the past, and enjoyed it) but until WLAN gets easier I might wait a tad :) Paul ;)
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Well, so far, all I can figure out is that I don't know crap about running Linux. But hey, we all start somewhere. I have been able to figure out to go to the terminal and navigate through there (damn, it's like learning DOS all over again). Now I need to figure out how to write the correct path for where the kernel is located. :sigh: It's not the default kenal name that it origninally gives in the 'make config' command. Ah well, back to work on it now though.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
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Yay. I been a computer geek for over 5 years now and I finally made my first Linux PC. I just installed RedHat 9 on a MicroATX 466 MHz Celeron with about 128MB of PC100 RAM. I'm building this PC as a project for 2-3 of my classes in school. It's going to be made to just play MP3s and be controlled remotely (no monitor/mouse/keyboard) from another PC on a network. It's networked wirelessly as well so I don't have cables running to it. The only thing sticking out of it will be the power cable. Now, since I'm such a total n00b, I can't find the real stuff on how to make this works on it. I have a Wireless PCI NIC in there that has Linux driver for it's chipset, but I can't figure out how to install the damn thing. Anybody here know of any links for total n00bs who want to install hardware on RedHat 9? I'm writing an 'article' on it documenting what I did and how I did it so I can turn it for my final projects. When I'm done I'll post a link as well. Well, if anybody's interested in it that is.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
Watchout: RH9 using their version of XMMS, mp3 playing is disabled due to "patent" or "legal" issues... I got it working before by using mpg321 .rpm something like that. -Steven Hicks
CPA
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Well, so far, all I can figure out is that I don't know crap about running Linux. But hey, we all start somewhere. I have been able to figure out to go to the terminal and navigate through there (damn, it's like learning DOS all over again). Now I need to figure out how to write the correct path for where the kernel is located. :sigh: It's not the default kenal name that it origninally gives in the 'make config' command. Ah well, back to work on it now though.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
If you need the "name" of the system you cna use the uname command
[jcrafton@WS jcrafton]$ uname
LinuxIf you need a more complete name try
[jcrafton@WS jcrafton]$ uname -a
Linux WS 2.4.20-28.8 #1 Thu Dec 18 12:53:39 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/LinuxIf you get confused about waht the various commands do try: man [name of the command]
man uname
And you should see a whole bunch of info about the command, some may be helpful, some maybe useless. Another help tool is to use the info system
info uname
This has similar information about a command but allows the use of keyboard to navigate around in n - next node p - prev node if you use the arrow keys to move the cursor over a topic that has a "*" before it you can hit the enter key and you'll be taken right there, just like a hyper link The CLI is extraordinarily powerful, but be prepared for a steep learning curve, as it is NOT remotely obvious how things work or fit together. If you have some other basic questions feel free to email me. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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If you need the "name" of the system you cna use the uname command
[jcrafton@WS jcrafton]$ uname
LinuxIf you need a more complete name try
[jcrafton@WS jcrafton]$ uname -a
Linux WS 2.4.20-28.8 #1 Thu Dec 18 12:53:39 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/LinuxIf you get confused about waht the various commands do try: man [name of the command]
man uname
And you should see a whole bunch of info about the command, some may be helpful, some maybe useless. Another help tool is to use the info system
info uname
This has similar information about a command but allows the use of keyboard to navigate around in n - next node p - prev node if you use the arrow keys to move the cursor over a topic that has a "*" before it you can hit the enter key and you'll be taken right there, just like a hyper link The CLI is extraordinarily powerful, but be prepared for a steep learning curve, as it is NOT remotely obvious how things work or fit together. If you have some other basic questions feel free to email me. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
Actually, I found out my problem is the fact that I decided not to install the Development components, and so therefore the driver config files won't compile. yet another :sigh: in frustration.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
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Watchout: RH9 using their version of XMMS, mp3 playing is disabled due to "patent" or "legal" issues... I got it working before by using mpg321 .rpm something like that. -Steven Hicks
CPA
CodeProjectAddict
Actual Linux Penguins were harmed in the creation of this message.
More tutorials: Ltpb.8m.com: Tutorials |404Browser.com (Download Link)
Hmmm... I believe that XMMS is actually built to run on RH9 with a seperate build. http://www.xmms.org/download.php[^] :shrug: I believe I'll be able to get it to work some how, some way.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
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Hmmm... I believe that XMMS is actually built to run on RH9 with a seperate build. http://www.xmms.org/download.php[^] :shrug: I believe I'll be able to get it to work some how, some way.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
What Redhat has done is substituted a dummy plugin for the real MP3 plugin that explains that they can no longer distribute the plugin anymore (something to do with the original plugin not being free). The XMMS website has the RPMs for you to install that will reinstall the original plugin. And if you haven't learned to install RPMs yet, it goes something like this: $ su Password: rpm -ihv if you have one to update it the command is: rpm -Uhv
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What Redhat has done is substituted a dummy plugin for the real MP3 plugin that explains that they can no longer distribute the plugin anymore (something to do with the original plugin not being free). The XMMS website has the RPMs for you to install that will reinstall the original plugin. And if you haven't learned to install RPMs yet, it goes something like this: $ su Password: rpm -ihv if you have one to update it the command is: rpm -Uhv
Yeah, haven't gotten to learning RPMs yet because I don't have my box networked yet because I can't get the wireless NIC installed yet. After that I'll learn about RPMs and installing programs on RedHat. But this will come in handy when I do install XMMS in it. I thought the legality issues that were mentioned before was something dealing the RIAA. :laugh: EDIT: BTW, is this legality issue still the case, even when you download and install XMMS?
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
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Actually, I found out my problem is the fact that I decided not to install the Development components, and so therefore the driver config files won't compile. yet another :sigh: in frustration.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
yet another :sigh: in frustration. Totally understand - my deepest sympathies go out to you ! :) Be prepared for a lot of that till you get comfortable with all the quirks. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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Yay. I been a computer geek for over 5 years now and I finally made my first Linux PC. I just installed RedHat 9 on a MicroATX 466 MHz Celeron with about 128MB of PC100 RAM. I'm building this PC as a project for 2-3 of my classes in school. It's going to be made to just play MP3s and be controlled remotely (no monitor/mouse/keyboard) from another PC on a network. It's networked wirelessly as well so I don't have cables running to it. The only thing sticking out of it will be the power cable. Now, since I'm such a total n00b, I can't find the real stuff on how to make this works on it. I have a Wireless PCI NIC in there that has Linux driver for it's chipset, but I can't figure out how to install the damn thing. Anybody here know of any links for total n00bs who want to install hardware on RedHat 9? I'm writing an 'article' on it documenting what I did and how I did it so I can turn it for my final projects. When I'm done I'll post a link as well. Well, if anybody's interested in it that is.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com
Wireless support for Linux and BSD has always been a crapshoot because of the tradesecret nature of the hardware. It is getting better but there are still quirky. Since many wireless vendors don't want to contribute that is the reason why I would setup the machine with an old fashion wired NIC interface along with wrirelss. Its heding bets but it sure beats burning CD and using floppies to get files onto the machine. Did you go to the vendor's web site and look for Linux drivers? Many often provide drivers "as is" without support. Its worth at least compiling and seeing fo the driver will load.
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Wireless support for Linux and BSD has always been a crapshoot because of the tradesecret nature of the hardware. It is getting better but there are still quirky. Since many wireless vendors don't want to contribute that is the reason why I would setup the machine with an old fashion wired NIC interface along with wrirelss. Its heding bets but it sure beats burning CD and using floppies to get files onto the machine. Did you go to the vendor's web site and look for Linux drivers? Many often provide drivers "as is" without support. Its worth at least compiling and seeing fo the driver will load.
I downloaded the drivers for the chipset from various non-vendor sites.
Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com