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  • E EastDragon

    "Chow" is a disparaging word to Chinese! Let's roll!

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    Megan Forbes
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    Eastdragon wrote: "Chow" is a disparaging word to Chinese! Interesting how cultures differ. In SA "chow" means either "food" or "goodbye" (we aren't cultured enough to use the Italian spelling :rolleyes: )


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      I am sorry for misunderstanding your point. I only know her Chinese name is Zhou Huiming. But "Chow" is really a disparaging word in mainland of China. Couple years ago, a type of Moblie phone uses "Hello Chow" as a welcome words and it really break out a controversy on press. Sorry again! Let's roll!

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      Eastdragon wrote: Zhou Huiming. But "Chow" is really a disparaging word in mainland of China. Could it be that "Chow" is simply an attempt by an occidental to pronounce "Zhou?" We really don't have a good equivalent for the phoneme "zh" and are clueless how to say it. I have a fair idea of how to say it, but for all my ability in using the english language I have no idea how to represent it phonetically. My language isn't built to make that sound. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
      you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...

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        Eastdragon wrote: Zhou Huiming. But "Chow" is really a disparaging word in mainland of China. Could it be that "Chow" is simply an attempt by an occidental to pronounce "Zhou?" We really don't have a good equivalent for the phoneme "zh" and are clueless how to say it. I have a fair idea of how to say it, but for all my ability in using the english language I have no idea how to represent it phonetically. My language isn't built to make that sound. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
        you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...

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        If I'm not mistaken, "zhou" should sound a little like zoe. :~


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          Eastdragon wrote: "Chow" is a disparaging word to Chinese! Interesting how cultures differ. In SA "chow" means either "food" or "goodbye" (we aren't cultured enough to use the Italian spelling :rolleyes: )


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          I think we spell the goodbye, chow differently. eg "ciao". Typical of the english language, stealing another lingos salutation that already has a phonetic other meaning. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            Eastdragon wrote: Zhou Huiming. But "Chow" is really a disparaging word in mainland of China. Could it be that "Chow" is simply an attempt by an occidental to pronounce "Zhou?" We really don't have a good equivalent for the phoneme "zh" and are clueless how to say it. I have a fair idea of how to say it, but for all my ability in using the english language I have no idea how to represent it phonetically. My language isn't built to make that sound. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
            you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...

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            You are right! Cause she is in Hongkong.It use Cantonese, a Chinese dialect mainly in Guang Dong province, which pronounce in a different way from mandarin. As a matter of fact, there are too many types of dialect in China. Their pronunciation could be totally different. We only share the same characters. Of cause, in Hongkong and Taiwan, they still use traditional Chinese characters which is very complex to write. In mainland of China, we use simplified Chinese characters which is much easier to write. I don't know much about Cantonese, maybe they pronounce "Zhou" as "Chow". And the "Chow" means "Any of a breed of heavy-set dog originating in China, having a long, dense, reddish-brown or black coat and a blue-black tongue." To call somebody a Dog is very insulting in China. Let's roll!

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              You are right! Cause she is in Hongkong.It use Cantonese, a Chinese dialect mainly in Guang Dong province, which pronounce in a different way from mandarin. As a matter of fact, there are too many types of dialect in China. Their pronunciation could be totally different. We only share the same characters. Of cause, in Hongkong and Taiwan, they still use traditional Chinese characters which is very complex to write. In mainland of China, we use simplified Chinese characters which is much easier to write. I don't know much about Cantonese, maybe they pronounce "Zhou" as "Chow". And the "Chow" means "Any of a breed of heavy-set dog originating in China, having a long, dense, reddish-brown or black coat and a blue-black tongue." To call somebody a Dog is very insulting in China. Let's roll!

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              Eastdragon wrote: To call somebody a Dog is very insulting in China. I think that's universal, though I have to admit that I know some dogs that I like a lot better than some people I know.:-D Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
              you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...

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                Eastdragon wrote: To call somebody a Dog is very insulting in China. I think that's universal, though I have to admit that I know some dogs that I like a lot better than some people I know.:-D Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
                you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...

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                Roger Wright wrote: I have to admit that I know some dogs that I like a lot better than some people I know ;) Yeah! It's true. Let's roll!

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                  If I'm not mistaken, "zhou" should sound a little like zoe. :~


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                  I would pronounce it as a very soft 'sh' but drawn out a bit. Impossible to describe as we don't have an equivalent in English. I'm a bit stumped about Zoe, as well. It's become a popular girl's name in the west recently, but I haven't met one yet and have no idea how to pronounce it. Zo just doesn't sound respectful enough; I translate in my mind to "Zo-ee" (ryhmes with Joey) but I have no logical basis for that. Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
                  you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...

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                    I think we spell the goodbye, chow differently. eg "ciao". Typical of the english language, stealing another lingos salutation that already has a phonetic other meaning. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                    ColinDavies wrote: I think we spell the goodbye, chow differently. eg "ciao". That's what I meant by our lack of culture :)


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                      ColinDavies wrote: I think we spell the goodbye, chow differently. eg "ciao". That's what I meant by our lack of culture :)


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                      I hope you're not speaking (writing?) on behalf of all South Africans. I will grant you that in certain circles here the only culture is what grows between the rolls on beer bellies, but at least everyone I know can spell ciao. I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning. - Aleister Crowley

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                        I hope you're not speaking (writing?) on behalf of all South Africans. I will grant you that in certain circles here the only culture is what grows between the rolls on beer bellies, but at least everyone I know can spell ciao. I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning. - Aleister Crowley

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                        ProffK wrote: but at least everyone I know can spell ciao Ah - but can they laugh at themselves? :)


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                          ProffK wrote: but at least everyone I know can spell ciao Ah - but can they laugh at themselves? :)


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                          Hell, that's all we do! I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning. - Aleister Crowley

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                            I hope you're not speaking (writing?) on behalf of all South Africans. I will grant you that in certain circles here the only culture is what grows between the rolls on beer bellies, but at least everyone I know can spell ciao. I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning. - Aleister Crowley

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                            As in, we got a really good ciao at Nando's the other day... I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning. - Aleister Crowley

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