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    Nish Nishant
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    hey I dont think I even got the spelling correct.. But just whats this halloween thing all about? is it an American thing? or british? just curious... Nish p.s. does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day?

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      hey I dont think I even got the spelling correct.. But just whats this halloween thing all about? is it an American thing? or british? just curious... Nish p.s. does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day?

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      Ray Kinsella
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      'Tis a ancient Celtic festival (commercialised by the Americans), The British have Guy Fawkes day instead of Halloween. Halloween is about several things, celebrating the Close of harvest, warding off the Evil spirts of Winter ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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        'Tis a ancient Celtic festival (commercialised by the Americans), The British have Guy Fawkes day instead of Halloween. Halloween is about several things, celebrating the Close of harvest, warding off the Evil spirts of Winter ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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        Kannan Kalyanaraman
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        and why do they wear looking masks ... - Kannan

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          hey I dont think I even got the spelling correct.. But just whats this halloween thing all about? is it an American thing? or british? just curious... Nish p.s. does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day?

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          Paul Watson
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          No it has nothing to do with Guy Fawkes day. Guy Fawkes is British and very cultured ;). Halloween is as American as apple pie, Adam Sandler or Ren and Stimpy, and very uncultured. Here is a brief history from the kind folks at Ben & Jerry. My take on Halloween is a bunch of kids (hey I am a bitter adult because I never got to do what they do now) running around begging, bribing, stealing sweets from adults. The kids are normally dressed in scary costumes (like the Pamela Anderson body kit, or the Bill Gates mask etc.) or just covered in a sheet. Depends on the social class they come from. Guys with bandanas, guns and switch blades are not halloween kids, they are gangsters. Run away. When a kid gets to your door they scream "Trick or treat?". If you give them a sweet (or a whole chocolate factory, kids are demanding these days) it is considered a treat and they run away without even bleeding saying thank you, snotty kids. If you don't give them anything then they do a trick on you (and no not that kind of trick). Normally they cover your house in toilet paper and eggs. Or throw cherry bombs at your dog. All in all a dangerous time for all. I prefer Easter, Christmas and Punja! :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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            and why do they wear looking masks ... - Kannan

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            Children pretending to be the Evil Spirits that the Bonfires drive off... BTW BonFires are light at Halloween, Children dress up as Evil Spirits and dance around the BonFire ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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              No it has nothing to do with Guy Fawkes day. Guy Fawkes is British and very cultured ;). Halloween is as American as apple pie, Adam Sandler or Ren and Stimpy, and very uncultured. Here is a brief history from the kind folks at Ben & Jerry. My take on Halloween is a bunch of kids (hey I am a bitter adult because I never got to do what they do now) running around begging, bribing, stealing sweets from adults. The kids are normally dressed in scary costumes (like the Pamela Anderson body kit, or the Bill Gates mask etc.) or just covered in a sheet. Depends on the social class they come from. Guys with bandanas, guns and switch blades are not halloween kids, they are gangsters. Run away. When a kid gets to your door they scream "Trick or treat?". If you give them a sweet (or a whole chocolate factory, kids are demanding these days) it is considered a treat and they run away without even bleeding saying thank you, snotty kids. If you don't give them anything then they do a trick on you (and no not that kind of trick). Normally they cover your house in toilet paper and eggs. Or throw cherry bombs at your dog. All in all a dangerous time for all. I prefer Easter, Christmas and Punja! :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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              Halloween is as American as St Patricks Day !!! Its a European Celtic & Viking Scandavian Tradition Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                hey I dont think I even got the spelling correct.. But just whats this halloween thing all about? is it an American thing? or british? just curious... Nish p.s. does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day?

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                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                is it an American thing? or british? Arrrgggghhh! Don't blame us. It's a Yank thing (or is that thang?) :( It's sure gotten out of hand though. :rolleyes: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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                http://www.resorg.co.uk

                "I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))

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                  Children pretending to be the Evil Spirits that the Bonfires drive off... BTW BonFires are light at Halloween, Children dress up as Evil Spirits and dance around the BonFire ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                  Odd behaviour for a predominantly Christian country, doncha think? Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                  (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
                  http://www.resorg.co.uk

                  "I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))

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                    No it has nothing to do with Guy Fawkes day. Guy Fawkes is British and very cultured ;). Halloween is as American as apple pie, Adam Sandler or Ren and Stimpy, and very uncultured. Here is a brief history from the kind folks at Ben & Jerry. My take on Halloween is a bunch of kids (hey I am a bitter adult because I never got to do what they do now) running around begging, bribing, stealing sweets from adults. The kids are normally dressed in scary costumes (like the Pamela Anderson body kit, or the Bill Gates mask etc.) or just covered in a sheet. Depends on the social class they come from. Guys with bandanas, guns and switch blades are not halloween kids, they are gangsters. Run away. When a kid gets to your door they scream "Trick or treat?". If you give them a sweet (or a whole chocolate factory, kids are demanding these days) it is considered a treat and they run away without even bleeding saying thank you, snotty kids. If you don't give them anything then they do a trick on you (and no not that kind of trick). Normally they cover your house in toilet paper and eggs. Or throw cherry bombs at your dog. All in all a dangerous time for all. I prefer Easter, Christmas and Punja! :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Paul, What's Punja? and thanks for the info. Nish

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                      hey I dont think I even got the spelling correct.. But just whats this halloween thing all about? is it an American thing? or british? just curious... Nish p.s. does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day?

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                      Halloween is just one of those ancient 'holidays' hijacked by big corporations intending to make us buy silly costumes, sweets, decorations, cards etc. Sort of like Easter for Satan worshippers :-) Michael :-) >does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day? Nah, that when we Brits celebrate Guy Fawkes failed attempt to blow up the House of Parliament by burning things and exploding gunpowder. Only us Brits could celebrate failure. Michael :-)

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                        Halloween is as American as St Patricks Day !!! Its a European Celtic & Viking Scandavian Tradition Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                        St Patricks day? Thats a new one there, huh? Nish

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                          hey I dont think I even got the spelling correct.. But just whats this halloween thing all about? is it an American thing? or british? just curious... Nish p.s. does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day?

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                          Hey I got the spelling right :-) Nish

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                            Halloween is as American as St Patricks Day !!! Its a European Celtic & Viking Scandavian Tradition Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                            :rolleyes: yes I know, I read the history I posted :) But I was referring to the Halloween celebrated by the modern world. Halloween is about as celtic now days as a dreamcatcher or the sickle moon. It has all been Americanised, worse than a caramalised onion. I don't see little kiddies running around scribbling ancient celtic runes, or chanting Scandanavian ryhmes. I see them in masks with "Toys'r'Us" printed on the label. Getting dropped off at the top of streets in SUVs and waving about light sabres which rattle "Use the force Luke!" with every swipe. That is the Halloween of today :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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                              St Patricks day? Thats a new one there, huh? Nish

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                              Kiss the blarney stone! (or have I got my rituals mixed up? is this the haggis one? hehe) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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                                Odd behaviour for a predominantly Christian country, doncha think? Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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                                http://www.resorg.co.uk

                                "I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ;))

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                                erm ... 'tis true, but think about Christmas and Easter ... make very little either. Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                                  and why do they wear looking masks ... - Kannan

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  As confused as me eh, Kannan? Well these guys won't understand if we told them we know as much about halloween as a chicken knows about the big bang and now they bring in St. Patrick's day just to confuse things :-) LOL Nish

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                                    Halloween is just one of those ancient 'holidays' hijacked by big corporations intending to make us buy silly costumes, sweets, decorations, cards etc. Sort of like Easter for Satan worshippers :-) Michael :-) >does it have anything to do with guy fawkes day? Nah, that when we Brits celebrate Guy Fawkes failed attempt to blow up the House of Parliament by burning things and exploding gunpowder. Only us Brits could celebrate failure. Michael :-)

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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    Sort of like Easter for Satan worshippers ROFTLMAO oh that is the most beautifully sick thing I have heard all day! Bravo! *wipes a tear from my eye* hehe that had me laughing so hard. I can just imagine this black eared bunny bouncing around handing out goat heads, hand grenades and DIY black sabbath kits to kiddies. :laugh: Only us Brits could celebrate failure Got to love you Brit lot. Best humour in the world :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001 Happy halloween to all, or as Michael P butler says: "Halloween, sort of like Easter for Satan worshippers "

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                                      Paul, What's Punja? and thanks for the info. Nish

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                                      hehe :-O I miss-spelt puja. As Amit Dey says: well the puja is 'Durga Puja' and it goes on for about 10 days (although only 6 days are really celebrated). The puja is all about the coming of godess Durga(and her 10 children) and reflects the ageold idea of good over evil. The demon 'Mahisasura' gets whipped by Durga in a war and eventually the good prevails. Anyway, the 6th day onward to the 10th(the immersion day) the idols of Goddess Durga and her children are worshipped very elaborately. The 10 th day is Dussera( kind of a new year) and people wish their friends and neighbours and distribute sweets. Actually this festival is the first in a whole string of pujas usually ending with Kali puja( in about a month's time), and celebrated throughout the night with fireworks. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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                                        Children pretending to be the Evil Spirits that the Bonfires drive off... BTW BonFires are light at Halloween, Children dress up as Evil Spirits and dance around the BonFire ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                                        It basically involves being interrupted every 5 minutes by little children dressed in binbags, who expect money in return for their shoddy effort. And what's trick or treat about? I normally just say "Go on then, trick. I f**king dare you". They usually haven't planned on people saying that so they just walk away and unroot one of your flowers from the garden. :) --- Simon Proud member of the RSPCT - The Royal Society for the Prevention of the Creation of any more TLA's

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                                          :rolleyes: yes I know, I read the history I posted :) But I was referring to the Halloween celebrated by the modern world. Halloween is about as celtic now days as a dreamcatcher or the sickle moon. It has all been Americanised, worse than a caramalised onion. I don't see little kiddies running around scribbling ancient celtic runes, or chanting Scandanavian ryhmes. I see them in masks with "Toys'r'Us" printed on the label. Getting dropped off at the top of streets in SUVs and waving about light sabres which rattle "Use the force Luke!" with every swipe. That is the Halloween of today :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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                                          But I was referring to the Halloween celebrated by the modern world. Halloween is about as celtic now days as a dreamcatcher or the sickle moon. It has all been Americanised, worse than a caramalised onion. Why do the people of the UK, Ireland, South Africa (or anyplace else) feel the need to celebrate/participate in an American holiday that they obviously don't understand or like? Just ignore it like we ignore your specific holidays. All these complaints of "Americanizing" this or that reek of petty jealousy. Or do they point to some deep rooted inferiority complex? I don't mean to be a prick here, but it gets old after a while. Mike Mullikin "It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level I'm really quite busy."

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