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Stan Shannon wrote: Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. :laugh::laugh: Yer just a stick in the mud, Stan. :-D
LunaticFringe wrote: Yer just a stick in the mud, Stan. And proudly so. But my real problem is that I have this nagging habit of actually 'thinking'. "Oh, look at that nice young homosexual couple on CNN. Gee, I must have been completely wrong about those homosexuals all this time. But its not my fault, I just live in a horrible, hateful, capitalized, Chrisitanized world. It's all the fault of that awful George Bush. Wow! I'd better go out and vote for John Kerry to help change the world for the better!" :rolleyes: "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Stan Shannon wrote: I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. That Stan, is probably the most bigoted thing I have ever seen you write. :( There a plenty of men/women who are serial sexual predators. These are the people who are in (very) short term realationships for sex only, and from what I have seen/heard its just a likely in either sexual orientation. Men tend to be worse, but then thats probably because women would normally suffer the physical consequences (i.e. babies) Most gay relationships have trust and caring as their base, just the same as heterosexual couples. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Roger Wright: Remember to buckle up, please, and encourage your friends to do the same. It's not just about saving your life, but saving the quality of life for those you may leave behind...
Roger Allen wrote: That Stan, is probably the most bigoted thing I have ever seen you write. Sorry to offend, but I refuse to mindlessly buy into all this new age group think. It is all very much like a religion ("thou shalt not be a bigot"), and every religion needs its heretics. Roger Allen wrote: Men tend to be worse, but then thats probably because women would normally suffer the physical consequences (i.e. babies) Which is exactly the point I believe deserves thoughtful consideration. Take women out of the picture, remove the moderateing influence they traditionally have on male behavior, and what do you get? Unrestrained male sexuality. That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Sociobiologists would agree with you on that one. Male sexuality unrestrained by women is likely to be more promiscuous than heterosexual relationships, which are in turn probably less stable than lesbian relationships. Can't find any papers on line to back this up (at least nothing that doesn't link to a creationist site..) it's probably pretty tricky to get funding for research of that nature without being compared to Dr Menglier. This has a chapter on the subject[^] Disclaimer, to avoid a knee-jerk lynching: Obviously, we are not monkeys, sociobiology can only apply statistcaly. I am sure lesbians can be sluts and gay men dedicated homemakers. Ryan
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Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan Shannon wrote: male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships Ok Stan, I think I start to understand you a little bit. You are right that men are more promiscouos than women, also in men-men relations. Promiscuisity is considered to be a genetic advantage to men and disadvantage to women because women need a man to help her bring up her children. This promiscuisity I is dangerous in many ways. So, what is the best way to prevent it? Let them get married and live like a normal couple! jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
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Sociobiologists would agree with you on that one. Male sexuality unrestrained by women is likely to be more promiscuous than heterosexual relationships, which are in turn probably less stable than lesbian relationships. Can't find any papers on line to back this up (at least nothing that doesn't link to a creationist site..) it's probably pretty tricky to get funding for research of that nature without being compared to Dr Menglier. This has a chapter on the subject[^] Disclaimer, to avoid a knee-jerk lynching: Obviously, we are not monkeys, sociobiology can only apply statistcaly. I am sure lesbians can be sluts and gay men dedicated homemakers. Ryan
http://www.heritage.org/research/features/familydatabase/detail.cfm?ID1=3454[^] "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Now convince your friends about this with your new found wisdom. Then *perhaps* we'll see a more tolerant society some day. :) -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!
One step at a time ? The tigress is here :-D
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Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Become gay ? :confused: This raises a question then Stan - do you like sex and in that case why haven't you become gay ? Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.
You are willing to listen, learn and then think. What more could anyone ask ? Elaine :love: The tigress is here :-D
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Become gay ? :confused: This raises a question then Stan - do you like sex and in that case why haven't you become gay ? Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: why haven't you become gay ? Because, as much as I enjoy it, there are things more important to me than sex. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.
Well done! :cool: Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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One step at a time ? The tigress is here :-D
If that's what it'll take, then yes :) -- Unser Tanz ist so wild! Ein neuer böser Tanz. Alle gegen Alle!
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Stan Shannon wrote: male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships Ok Stan, I think I start to understand you a little bit. You are right that men are more promiscouos than women, also in men-men relations. Promiscuisity is considered to be a genetic advantage to men and disadvantage to women because women need a man to help her bring up her children. This promiscuisity I is dangerous in many ways. So, what is the best way to prevent it? Let them get married and live like a normal couple! jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
jhaga wrote: Let them get married and live like a normal couple! Essentially, I don't believe the elites who are promoting it are being intellectually honest. I don't believe the goal is to help establish gay monogamy, I believe it is specifically to continue undermineing traditional culture for the purpose of making indiviudals more dependent upon political systems. I think this is nothing more than the latest front in a generations long war of cultural conquest on the part of a determined and resourceful community of Marxist to bring the global community under the tight fisted authority of a single moral agenda. The last stubborn resistance to their strategy is the U.S. heartland and its commitment to religion, capitalism and individuality. Once that hurdle is overcome, the conquest is complete. (I use to be a little hesitant to publically express such paranoia, but considering the left's current paranoia about Bush, et al, I've become somewhat less inhibited about it) "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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LunaticFringe wrote: Yer just a stick in the mud, Stan. And proudly so. But my real problem is that I have this nagging habit of actually 'thinking'. "Oh, look at that nice young homosexual couple on CNN. Gee, I must have been completely wrong about those homosexuals all this time. But its not my fault, I just live in a horrible, hateful, capitalized, Chrisitanized world. It's all the fault of that awful George Bush. Wow! I'd better go out and vote for John Kerry to help change the world for the better!" :rolleyes: "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan Shannon wrote: But my real problem is that I have this nagging habit of actually 'thinking'. Sorry Stan, but that is what you don't do. Take individuals as you find the. That is what I have done. I could make a lot of comments about men's attitude towards women and blame all the men in here, after all who commits the vast majority of domestic violence ? Instead I get to know people not labels and have found good as well as bad in all walks of life. Try it. The tigress is here :-D
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Roger Allen wrote: That Stan, is probably the most bigoted thing I have ever seen you write. Sorry to offend, but I refuse to mindlessly buy into all this new age group think. It is all very much like a religion ("thou shalt not be a bigot"), and every religion needs its heretics. Roger Allen wrote: Men tend to be worse, but then thats probably because women would normally suffer the physical consequences (i.e. babies) Which is exactly the point I believe deserves thoughtful consideration. Take women out of the picture, remove the moderateing influence they traditionally have on male behavior, and what do you get? Unrestrained male sexuality. That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan Shannon wrote: That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. Do you really believe some men think: "I want more sex, so let's be gay, it will be easier" ? Unrestrained male sexuality would IMHO be a better explanation for rape than for male homosexuality.
Dansez sur moi, dansez sur moi, Le soir de mes funerailles Que la vie soit feu d'artifice Et la mort un feu de paille Claude Nougaro (1929-2004)
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Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.
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Stan Shannon wrote: That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. Do you really believe some men think: "I want more sex, so let's be gay, it will be easier" ? Unrestrained male sexuality would IMHO be a better explanation for rape than for male homosexuality.
Dansez sur moi, dansez sur moi, Le soir de mes funerailles Que la vie soit feu d'artifice Et la mort un feu de paille Claude Nougaro (1929-2004)
I would be willing to bet that the average homosexual is having a lot more sex than the average rapist. So, yes, I see absolutely no reason to belive that homosexuality is about anything other than sex - aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan - you're full of shit. Luckily, dinosaurs like you are disappearing fast - and thank fuck too, 'cos the world will be a better place when people with your 19th century mindset are long gone.
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I would be willing to bet that the average homosexual is having a lot more sex than the average rapist. So, yes, I see absolutely no reason to belive that homosexuality is about anything other than sex - aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan Shannon wrote: aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. why would what they say be "less than convincing" ?? gay = dishonest and untrustworthy ? Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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Stan Shannon wrote: aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. why would what they say be "less than convincing" ?? gay = dishonest and untrustworthy ? Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
Chris Losinger wrote: gay = dishonest and untrustworthy ? Well, I would say: gay = political movement = dishonest and untrustworthy. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Stan - you're full of shit. Luckily, dinosaurs like you are disappearing fast - and thank fuck too, 'cos the world will be a better place when people with your 19th century mindset are long gone.
What's the matter, can't tolerate different mindsets in your brave new world? So much for diversity, eh? "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."