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Roger Allen wrote: That Stan, is probably the most bigoted thing I have ever seen you write. Sorry to offend, but I refuse to mindlessly buy into all this new age group think. It is all very much like a religion ("thou shalt not be a bigot"), and every religion needs its heretics. Roger Allen wrote: Men tend to be worse, but then thats probably because women would normally suffer the physical consequences (i.e. babies) Which is exactly the point I believe deserves thoughtful consideration. Take women out of the picture, remove the moderateing influence they traditionally have on male behavior, and what do you get? Unrestrained male sexuality. That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan Shannon wrote: That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. Do you really believe some men think: "I want more sex, so let's be gay, it will be easier" ? Unrestrained male sexuality would IMHO be a better explanation for rape than for male homosexuality.
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Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.
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Stan Shannon wrote: That might be bigoted, but it is also a virtually inescapable conclusion. Do you really believe some men think: "I want more sex, so let's be gay, it will be easier" ? Unrestrained male sexuality would IMHO be a better explanation for rape than for male homosexuality.
Dansez sur moi, dansez sur moi, Le soir de mes funerailles Que la vie soit feu d'artifice Et la mort un feu de paille Claude Nougaro (1929-2004)
I would be willing to bet that the average homosexual is having a lot more sex than the average rapist. So, yes, I see absolutely no reason to belive that homosexuality is about anything other than sex - aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Mr.Prakash wrote: I guess i was wrong about them Either that or you've been the victim of well engineered social propaganda. Personally, I intend to hang on to my prejudices for a while yet. I believe that female homosexuality is probably about relationships more than it is about sex, but the male homosexuals I've known have conviced me that male homosexuality is about sex more than it is about relationships. If homosexual men are as likely to maintain relationships as heterosexual men, why is the rate of sexually transmitted deseases for gay men so much higher than amoung heterosexual men? I remain conviced that men become 'gay' for one reason - to have as much sex as they can, without having women there to restrain the natural male inclination to have multiple sexual partners. It is going to take a lot more than the media's unrelenting efforts to make homosexuality more paletable to convince me otherwise. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan - you're full of shit. Luckily, dinosaurs like you are disappearing fast - and thank fuck too, 'cos the world will be a better place when people with your 19th century mindset are long gone.
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I would be willing to bet that the average homosexual is having a lot more sex than the average rapist. So, yes, I see absolutely no reason to belive that homosexuality is about anything other than sex - aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan Shannon wrote: aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. why would what they say be "less than convincing" ?? gay = dishonest and untrustworthy ? Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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Stan Shannon wrote: aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. why would what they say be "less than convincing" ?? gay = dishonest and untrustworthy ? Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
Chris Losinger wrote: gay = dishonest and untrustworthy ? Well, I would say: gay = political movement = dishonest and untrustworthy. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Stan - you're full of shit. Luckily, dinosaurs like you are disappearing fast - and thank fuck too, 'cos the world will be a better place when people with your 19th century mindset are long gone.
What's the matter, can't tolerate different mindsets in your brave new world? So much for diversity, eh? "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Chris Losinger wrote: gay = dishonest and untrustworthy ? Well, I would say: gay = political movement = dishonest and untrustworthy. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
are all political movements dishonest and untrustworthy, or is there something special about the gayness that makes this one so ? Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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are all political movements dishonest and untrustworthy, or is there something special about the gayness that makes this one so ? Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
Politics are about propaganda, I had assumed that was understood. I don't think that gayness itself has any relationship to dishonesty. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Politics are about propaganda, I had assumed that was understood. I don't think that gayness itself has any relationship to dishonesty. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Stan Shannon wrote: Politics are about propaganda, I had assumed that was understood. just making sure. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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I would be willing to bet that the average homosexual is having a lot more sex than the average rapist. So, yes, I see absolutely no reason to belive that homosexuality is about anything other than sex - aside from what the homosexuals themselves are saying, which I find less than convincing. "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
Hang on a second... just clear this up for me... You base your opinion on a view you have created for yourself based on observations of your hetero relationships, and blindly ignore what the people actually involved tell you? Are you sure you're not a politician? :rolleyes:
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What's the matter, can't tolerate different mindsets in your brave new world? So much for diversity, eh? "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
I should know better but... You expect people to tolerate *your* different mindset, yet you are completely intolerant of those who have a different mindset than you? :confused: Why should anyone tolerate you at all when you don't offer others the same respect that you demand for yourself? Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...
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I should know better but... You expect people to tolerate *your* different mindset, yet you are completely intolerant of those who have a different mindset than you? :confused: Why should anyone tolerate you at all when you don't offer others the same respect that you demand for yourself? Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...
Josh Martin wrote: You expect people to tolerate *your* different mindset Actually, I don't expect it. I just couldn't resist pointing out that even the so called 'tolerant' are in reality no more tolerant than any other group of true believers when it comes to those who question their faith. Josh Martin wrote: yet you are completely intolerant of those who have a different mindset than you? Taking an overt political point of view to an overt politcal movement is intolerance? Whould you care to list all of the politcal movements that are too sacrosanct to be opposed? "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."
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Stan - you're full of shit. Luckily, dinosaurs like you are disappearing fast - and thank fuck too, 'cos the world will be a better place when people with your 19th century mindset are long gone.
woah woah woah hold up... With a 19th century mindset (implying values) so you believe all the sh*t thats on tv (an image or reflection of the 20th century). It only convinces dangerous behaviors are prefectly accepted because it is shown on tv. ... sure be glad about this see what happens. The media and tv has a powerful effect, more than you would think, children who are left obsorb this are the ones that are getting screwed, and so are you ... your tax money pays for services that has to educate and correct people who have been convinved that these behavors are acceptible. How do you like your modern values now? -Steven Hicks
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woah woah woah hold up... With a 19th century mindset (implying values) so you believe all the sh*t thats on tv (an image or reflection of the 20th century). It only convinces dangerous behaviors are prefectly accepted because it is shown on tv. ... sure be glad about this see what happens. The media and tv has a powerful effect, more than you would think, children who are left obsorb this are the ones that are getting screwed, and so are you ... your tax money pays for services that has to educate and correct people who have been convinved that these behavors are acceptible. How do you like your modern values now? -Steven Hicks
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WTF are you talking about Steven? Give me tolerance over bigotry any day. People are only bigoted because they are either pig-ignorant or have been brain-washed by their bigoted parents. Luckily, thanks in part to the "global village" we now live in, people are wising up. So, in your opinion, being gay isn't acceptable behaviour? I despair, I really fucking do.
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Recently i saw an interview of an gay couple on CNN. The two guys humm looked liked they really loved each other, how they kissed on the head and holding hands n stuff. like real hetro couples. I previously thought Gay was about sex coz they cant reproduse. I guess i was wrong about them, gay ppl can also be in love and so should be allowed to marry if they can live happy together.
While we are talking about open minds... I would like ALL drugs to be legal,:) and available at the grocery store.:eek: I have the right to do what I want with my body, same as the homosexuals. X| I should be allowed to own machine guns, as long as I don't shoot people then its not hurting anyone is it??? I do not think that the education system should be teaching tolerance or intolerance. Teachers should be teaching reading, writing, and math. The parents have the responsibility for teaching morals. I have several more examples, but this is not the place.
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While we are talking about open minds... I would like ALL drugs to be legal,:) and available at the grocery store.:eek: I have the right to do what I want with my body, same as the homosexuals. X| I should be allowed to own machine guns, as long as I don't shoot people then its not hurting anyone is it??? I do not think that the education system should be teaching tolerance or intolerance. Teachers should be teaching reading, writing, and math. The parents have the responsibility for teaching morals. I have several more examples, but this is not the place.
kjessee wrote: I would like ALL drugs to be legal, and available at the grocery store. I have the right to do what I want with my body, same as the homosexuals. no comparison... If you abuse drugs there are lot of other complications, if you have family you are ruining ur family then you will out of job thus hurting the gov. If many ppl starts abusing the drugs then its a lot of prob to gov. Gayness, you dont buy it from the stores, or do you have choice to be a gay or not ? kjessee wrote: I should be allowed to own machine guns, as long as I don't shoot people then its not hurting anyone is it??? No one is afraid of being hurt, ppl are afraid that you will kill someone, somoeone who is productive for the gov(tax payer). kjessee wrote: I do not think that the education system should be teaching tolerance or intolerance. yeah they should, did you ever wonder why ur neighboors are nice to you?? :-D
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woah woah woah hold up... With a 19th century mindset (implying values) so you believe all the sh*t thats on tv (an image or reflection of the 20th century). It only convinces dangerous behaviors are prefectly accepted because it is shown on tv. ... sure be glad about this see what happens. The media and tv has a powerful effect, more than you would think, children who are left obsorb this are the ones that are getting screwed, and so are you ... your tax money pays for services that has to educate and correct people who have been convinved that these behavors are acceptible. How do you like your modern values now? -Steven Hicks
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Sorry to reiterate the same thing that Rob basically said, but WTF are you talking about there? :confused:
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