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    ppp001
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    Hi, if i just buy a VC++.Net but not the whole Visual Studio.Net package, can I still use it to develop software for Pocket PC 2003/Smartphone by using the compact framework extension ? and can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Thanks

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      Hi, if i just buy a VC++.Net but not the whole Visual Studio.Net package, can I still use it to develop software for Pocket PC 2003/Smartphone by using the compact framework extension ? and can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Thanks

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      I haven't done it myself but I don't think there is problem with that.You can get better answer in VC++ forum. pyhtang1 wrote: can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Sure. Mazy "Man is different from animals in that he speculates, a high risk activity." - Edward Hoagland

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        I haven't done it myself but I don't think there is problem with that.You can get better answer in VC++ forum. pyhtang1 wrote: can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Sure. Mazy "Man is different from animals in that he speculates, a high risk activity." - Edward Hoagland

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        Mazdak wrote: can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Sure. Not if you only buy VC++ though, you'd need Visual c#

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          Hi, if i just buy a VC++.Net but not the whole Visual Studio.Net package, can I still use it to develop software for Pocket PC 2003/Smartphone by using the compact framework extension ? and can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Thanks

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          Heath Stewart
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          Actually, you don't need either. Download the .NET Framework. You've got the C# compiler. Download the .NET Framework SDK for more tools and documentation. You can do the same with Compact Framework (CF). Download the runtime. That's really all you need. You can find all the documentation in MSDN Library[^]. Now, if you can't develop without designers and drag-n-drop, then you'll need to get Visual C# .NET. If you look at the price, by the time you purchase two packages you've just spent more than you would for Visual Studio .NET.

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            Hi, if i just buy a VC++.Net but not the whole Visual Studio.Net package, can I still use it to develop software for Pocket PC 2003/Smartphone by using the compact framework extension ? and can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Thanks

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            Isn't there an open source IDE for C# development? I can't recall the name. Does that support CF? Sammy "A good friend, is like a good book: the inside is better than the cover..."

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              Isn't there an open source IDE for C# development? I can't recall the name. Does that support CF? Sammy "A good friend, is like a good book: the inside is better than the cover..."

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              You're thinking of SharpDevelop (#develop)[^], and I don't believe it supports CF designers, but you don't really need them anyway. Drag-n-drop development is not true development. IDE's are handy, but being able to develop without them is what helps make you a decent developer.

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                Mazdak wrote: can I develop software on PocketPC/Smartphone by using C# ? Sure. Not if you only buy VC++ though, you'd need Visual c#

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                Of course, but I can't see in that statement he mention that. Mazy "Man is different from animals in that he speculates, a high risk activity." - Edward Hoagland

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                  You're thinking of SharpDevelop (#develop)[^], and I don't believe it supports CF designers, but you don't really need them anyway. Drag-n-drop development is not true development. IDE's are handy, but being able to develop without them is what helps make you a decent developer.

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                  Uh oh. You mean using VS.NET will always make me beneath all those who develop by hand? But I thought that the real essence is not code writing, it's really the thinking behind it, if you know what I mean. This is why IDEs are okay, because they let you concentrate on writing the code that really matters, not the one you know by heart how to write already (like instantiating forms and controls). Sammy "A good friend, is like a good book: the inside is better than the cover..."

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                    You're thinking of SharpDevelop (#develop)[^], and I don't believe it supports CF designers, but you don't really need them anyway. Drag-n-drop development is not true development. IDE's are handy, but being able to develop without them is what helps make you a decent developer.

                    Microsoft MVP, Visual C# My Articles

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                    I'm sorry, did that sound sarcastic? That's not what I meant if it did. It's just that your opinion matters to me, I sort of look up to you! Sammy "A good friend, is like a good book: the inside is better than the cover..."

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                      Uh oh. You mean using VS.NET will always make me beneath all those who develop by hand? But I thought that the real essence is not code writing, it's really the thinking behind it, if you know what I mean. This is why IDEs are okay, because they let you concentrate on writing the code that really matters, not the one you know by heart how to write already (like instantiating forms and controls). Sammy "A good friend, is like a good book: the inside is better than the cover..."

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                      Heath Stewart
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                      I'm not saying IDEs are bad, just that good developers can live without them. I use an IDE mostly at work because IntelliSense helps me avoid stupid spelling (rather, casing) mistakes, but I never rely on it (like a lot of people, unfortunately) to tell me what a class supports in the way of method and property names. I know what a class has (good memory helps, but...) and if I don't then I look it up in the documentation to truly understand what's available and what everything does. Most code I write for CP (especially code snippets I post here in the forums) are written using VIM[^] on the command line with the C# command-line compiler (csc.exe) because it's fast and easy and I don't have to create a project (btw, VS.NET 2005 will have "scratch projects" for this very purpose!). So, like I said, IDEs aren't bad. They sure save a lot of time when designing forms and creating data classes (like hooking up data adapters to data sets), but they shouldn't be depended on 100%. Knowing how to code and using an IDE doesn't make a good developer. Just look at VB programmers! :)

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