Killing a 68 yrs old man in a wheel chair?
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what are you talking about,what about all the mascures the Israeli army did to all kind of people including women and children, or this is not counted as terrorism ,what about steeling palastinian houses every day,what do you expect from a man who suddenly find his home destroyed and an israeli is building a home for himeself instead,what would you do if you were in his shoe? do you think that palastineans and mouslims will not respond no we will respond and it says in the holy Quran,that we are not people of war ,we are people of peace but if you tried talking our freedom ,our home we will badly and strongly respond,no matter the price because if the price is your life ,you are going to heaven defending your religion any way ,it depends on what you hear ,you are from the pther part of the world and you dont know any of the truth regards D La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
DODO&Semsem wrote: that we are not people of war ,we are people of peace yeah right. DODO&Semsem wrote: if the price is your life ,you are going to heaven defending your religion utter bullshit.
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:omg:if the forum was not a pg forum I would have sent you a link that all would not enjoy,can any one tell me why,of course you are totaly controlled by media , well I got nothing to say , because of this more blood will be on the way , dig out more http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage Regards to all peace lovers :rose: La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
This is total nonsence, I dont know why you ppl think that when a muslim is killed you say that your religion is under threat and you will go to heaven defending your religion. Will you say the same thing if one muslim tries to kill another muslim? If that is true, all the muslims who died during the war between iran and iraq must be in heaven...
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DODO&Semsem wrote: or this is not counted as terrorism Of course it isn't terrorism, it's simply retaliation. There is a big difference. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Terrorism The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. The systematic use of violence as a means to intimidate or coerce societies or governments WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University There's no denying the man in question organised and planned the murders of Israelis but unless you plan on re-defining terrorism and contradicting the entire international community ,what Israel did could very well be considered an act of terrorism as it was illegal under international law. Subjectively we may not want to see it as such, but just because we close our eyes doesn't make it go away. Whats happening on both sides of this is wrong, but escalating the levels of attrocity and violence being pepertratd is grossly abhorrent. I know I've said this in another thread but what exactly do we achieve when we become that which we claim to loathe?
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what are you talking about,what about all the mascures the Israeli army did to all kind of people including women and children, or this is not counted as terrorism ,what about steeling palastinian houses every day,what do you expect from a man who suddenly find his home destroyed and an israeli is building a home for himeself instead,what would you do if you were in his shoe? do you think that palastineans and mouslims will not respond no we will respond and it says in the holy Quran,that we are not people of war ,we are people of peace but if you tried talking our freedom ,our home we will badly and strongly respond,no matter the price because if the price is your life ,you are going to heaven defending your religion any way ,it depends on what you hear ,you are from the pther part of the world and you dont know any of the truth regards D La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
DODO&Semsem wrote: it says in the holy Quran,that we are not people of war ,we are people of peace Too bad you people don't follow what is written. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry
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DODO&Semsem wrote: it says in the holy Quran,that we are not people of war ,we are people of peace Too bad you people don't follow what is written. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry
I thought I'd mention i voted your comment as a 1 due to the term 'you people'. That was the attitude of the Nazi party to the jewish people that eventually led to the holocaust, the blaming of the entire body of followers of Judaism based on the Catholic churches perception of the acts of those who condemned and crucified Christ.
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what are you talking about,what about all the mascures the Israeli army did to all kind of people including women and children, or this is not counted as terrorism ,what about steeling palastinian houses every day,what do you expect from a man who suddenly find his home destroyed and an israeli is building a home for himeself instead,what would you do if you were in his shoe? do you think that palastineans and mouslims will not respond no we will respond and it says in the holy Quran,that we are not people of war ,we are people of peace but if you tried talking our freedom ,our home we will badly and strongly respond,no matter the price because if the price is your life ,you are going to heaven defending your religion any way ,it depends on what you hear ,you are from the pther part of the world and you dont know any of the truth regards D La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
Even if you have some valid points, there no way they can be a justification to blow up women and children. By using violence, even to answer to violence, Palestinians are making for decades a terrible mistake. The best way to fight a democracy is Ghandi's way, that is non-violence. It would change dramatically the world's opinion on your cause, showing then Israel as the bad guys if they continue to use the same means. In the Bible there's a psalm saying "The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth". I would be surprized if the Quran didn't tell the same. You also believe Jesus was a prophet, right? So remember his words: "But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" Compare the results of the different struggles for liberation during the last century. Quiet each time violence and guerillas were used, it led when independence was acquired to another dictatorship, political violence and corruption.
Pushing little children, With their fully automatics, They like to push the weak around
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I thought I'd mention i voted your comment as a 1 due to the term 'you people'. That was the attitude of the Nazi party to the jewish people that eventually led to the holocaust, the blaming of the entire body of followers of Judaism based on the Catholic churches perception of the acts of those who condemned and crucified Christ.
Given that you are critical of my repply, as in: Rhys666 wrote: I thought I'd mention i voted your comment as a 1 due to the term 'you people'. And DODO said: DODO&Semsem wrote: we are people of peace How in the fuck would you have worded it? That being said, I appreciate you explaining your vote. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry
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This is total nonsence, I dont know why you ppl think that when a muslim is killed you say that your religion is under threat and you will go to heaven defending your religion. Will you say the same thing if one muslim tries to kill another muslim? If that is true, all the muslims who died during the war between iran and iraq must be in heaven...
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Mr.Prakash wrote: If that is true, all the muslims who died during the war between iran and iraq must be in heaven... Sort of a win / win proposition, no? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry
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Given that you are critical of my repply, as in: Rhys666 wrote: I thought I'd mention i voted your comment as a 1 due to the term 'you people'. And DODO said: DODO&Semsem wrote: we are people of peace How in the fuck would you have worded it? That being said, I appreciate you explaining your vote. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry
No idea, I'd have probably argued that it's pretty damn obvious that not all Muslims are people of peace and that that particular statement was a crock, otherwise Osama Bin Ladin et al wouldn't exist. Thanks for the appreciation of my explaining the vote though, it bloody annoying when someone doesn't isn't it?
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:omg:if the forum was not a pg forum I would have sent you a link that all would not enjoy,can any one tell me why,of course you are totaly controlled by media , well I got nothing to say , because of this more blood will be on the way , dig out more http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage Regards to all peace lovers :rose: La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
Post the link, you towel-headed pillow biter. A terrorist is a terrorist, and it doesn't matter if he can fly or if he's in a wheelchair. If nothing else, I'm surprised it took the Israelis this long to land a rocket in this guy's pocket, considering he wasn't exactly a fast-moving target. ------- sig starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- sig ends
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I thought I'd mention i voted your comment as a 1 due to the term 'you people'. That was the attitude of the Nazi party to the jewish people that eventually led to the holocaust, the blaming of the entire body of followers of Judaism based on the Catholic churches perception of the acts of those who condemned and crucified Christ.
You're right - that could mean anyone. He meant to say "towel-head". An alternative term would be "camel-jockey". I was wondering how long it would be before someone brought up the Nazis. Personally, I'm fed up with the nonsense going on in the middle east, and I think someone should just bulldoze the whole fucking place and start from scratch. ------- sig starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- sig ends
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You're right - that could mean anyone. He meant to say "towel-head". An alternative term would be "camel-jockey". I was wondering how long it would be before someone brought up the Nazis. Personally, I'm fed up with the nonsense going on in the middle east, and I think someone should just bulldoze the whole fucking place and start from scratch. ------- sig starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- sig ends
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This is total nonsence, I dont know why you ppl think that when a muslim is killed you say that your religion is under threat and you will go to heaven defending your religion. Will you say the same thing if one muslim tries to kill another muslim? If that is true, all the muslims who died during the war between iran and iraq must be in heaven...
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There is a word called Religon which ruin lifes when govermnets use it. Religous gevernment explain it as they want to force people do what they want. The think you say about war between Iran and Iraq is right, I don't know what they say in Iraq i that time but our government send young people to war by saying you will go to heaven, now which side go to heaven? They explain whatever they want by saying protect the religon. I can feel it with deep in my heart and I hate it. Fanatic is fanatic. Mazy "Man is different from animals in that he speculates, a high risk activity." - Edward Hoagland
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You're right - that could mean anyone. He meant to say "towel-head". An alternative term would be "camel-jockey". I was wondering how long it would be before someone brought up the Nazis. Personally, I'm fed up with the nonsense going on in the middle east, and I think someone should just bulldoze the whole fucking place and start from scratch. ------- sig starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- sig ends
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Even if you have some valid points, there no way they can be a justification to blow up women and children. By using violence, even to answer to violence, Palestinians are making for decades a terrible mistake. The best way to fight a democracy is Ghandi's way, that is non-violence. It would change dramatically the world's opinion on your cause, showing then Israel as the bad guys if they continue to use the same means. In the Bible there's a psalm saying "The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth". I would be surprized if the Quran didn't tell the same. You also believe Jesus was a prophet, right? So remember his words: "But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" Compare the results of the different struggles for liberation during the last century. Quiet each time violence and guerillas were used, it led when independence was acquired to another dictatorship, political violence and corruption.
Pushing little children, With their fully automatics, They like to push the weak around
You have many good points there. The only thing is that, it they don't fight for their land, they will be forgotten by the world. jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
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what are you talking about,what about all the mascures the Israeli army did to all kind of people including women and children, or this is not counted as terrorism ,what about steeling palastinian houses every day,what do you expect from a man who suddenly find his home destroyed and an israeli is building a home for himeself instead,what would you do if you were in his shoe? do you think that palastineans and mouslims will not respond no we will respond and it says in the holy Quran,that we are not people of war ,we are people of peace but if you tried talking our freedom ,our home we will badly and strongly respond,no matter the price because if the price is your life ,you are going to heaven defending your religion any way ,it depends on what you hear ,you are from the pther part of the world and you dont know any of the truth regards D La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah
I just told you the whole truth you need to know. The other side are the Jews. The most battered nation in human history. Each and every one of them once in their life visits the Masada site and promises to set the price tag on every single jewish life and they fanatically follow this policy. You need new approach. Try peace. Tomaz
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Mr.Prakash wrote: If that is true, all the muslims who died during the war between iran and iraq must be in heaven... Sort of a win / win proposition, no? Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times Loyal member of the vast right wing conspiracy Me "Kerry is a girl's name." Conan O'Brian "I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are." J.F.Kerry
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You have many good points there. The only thing is that, it they don't fight for their land, they will be forgotten by the world. jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
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There is a word called Religon which ruin lifes when govermnets use it. Religous gevernment explain it as they want to force people do what they want. The think you say about war between Iran and Iraq is right, I don't know what they say in Iraq i that time but our government send young people to war by saying you will go to heaven, now which side go to heaven? They explain whatever they want by saying protect the religon. I can feel it with deep in my heart and I hate it. Fanatic is fanatic. Mazy "Man is different from animals in that he speculates, a high risk activity." - Edward Hoagland
Dont take this personally Mazy, Most of the muslim nations have a religious person who is sort of leader (I guess Iran has one too) When this Religious person mixes politics with faith then he tends to mislead ppl who are his followers.
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Fighting doesn't mandatory mean using violence, according to my comprehension of what a fight is.
Pushing little children, With their fully automatics, They like to push the weak around
We should more often discuss what is the responsability of the media. If you have a peacefull demonstration it will be ignored by the media, but a bomb will never be ignored. That's why I have been saying that too much media hysteria about terrorism is as bad as terrorism itself. jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
