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  • J Jonathan de Halleux

    Stephane Rodriguez. wrote: a CP editor This would be even worse! He should be sentenced to eternal damnation, forced to program VB till the end of times. Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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    Stephane Rodriguez
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    Jonathan de Halleux wrote: He should be sentenced to eternal damnation Hint : it's not a He.

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      Even when a CP editor plagiarizes an article found elsewhere?

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      Marc Clifton
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      Stephane Rodriguez. wrote: Even when a CP editor plagiarizes an article found elsewhere? Accusations such as this need to be substantiated. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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        Jonathan de Halleux wrote: He should be sentenced to eternal damnation Hint : it's not a He.

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        Marc Clifton
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        Stephane Rodriguez. wrote: Hint : it's not a He. Oh please. Although I probably shouldn't, I can't help but take personally your implications on the part of all the CP editors, and it's making me angry. You can email me, the editor in question, any other editor, or Chris directly with your concerns, and we'll take care of it. If you don't do that, then your accusations are groundless and hurtful. CP is an honest place and prides itself on its integrity. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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          Jonathan de Halleux wrote: Here are several proposal to tackle plagirism: Your cause would be helped if you managed a consistent spelling of 'plagiarism' ;-) Simply report any such articles to webmaster@codeproject.com and let the CP team deal with them. They have deleted similar articles in the past. Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel

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          By spelling it in several ways, he makes sure that he'll spell it right at least once :) Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day :-D Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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            Jonathan de Halleux wrote: He should be sentenced to eternal damnation Hint : it's not a He.

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            Daniel Turini
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            You should at least post a link to the article. You're throwing mud on the image of all the editors this way. And on yours, too. :-D Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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              Stephane Rodriguez. wrote: Hint : it's not a He. Oh please. Although I probably shouldn't, I can't help but take personally your implications on the part of all the CP editors, and it's making me angry. You can email me, the editor in question, any other editor, or Chris directly with your concerns, and we'll take care of it. If you don't do that, then your accusations are groundless and hurtful. CP is an honest place and prides itself on its integrity. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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              Jonathan de Halleux
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              I would like to emphasize that I am not aware of such action by any editor. I believe they do a great job and the popularity of this site is here to verify this. :) Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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              • D Daniel Turini

                By spelling it in several ways, he makes sure that he'll spell it right at least once :) Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day :-D Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                jhwurmbach
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                Daniel Turini wrote: Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day And it is much more accurate than a clock that is simply loosing half a second a day! :omg: :rolleyes:


                "We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganised. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising: and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation." -- Caius Petronius, Roman Consul, 66 A.D.

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                • J Jonathan de Halleux

                  No more plaggia on CP, please! How is the plaggia problem tackled right now ? The two articles on ASP database are shameless cut-and-paste from Philip Quinn articles written back in 2001. Plaggia is the worst form of intellectual roberry, it has no place on CP. Here are several proposal to tackle plagirism: - Since it is a strong accusation, the authors of such plaggia should be able to argue why they did it and the decision should be left to CP team - Similarly to the purgatory, there should be inferno where the article would disappear in flames - Authors that repeatidely do such things should be banned or marked (with a special icon: I love plagia) Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Which two articles? Since it is a strong accusation, the accuser should be able to substantiate his claim of plagiarism by providing links to the management of this site. I know from personal researches that original articles here are often copied and published elsewhere under other writers' names. I have never seen a plagiarized article appear here, however. Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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                    Which two articles? Since it is a strong accusation, the accuser should be able to substantiate his claim of plagiarism by providing links to the management of this site. I know from personal researches that original articles here are often copied and published elsewhere under other writers' names. I have never seen a plagiarized article appear here, however. Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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                    Jonathan de Halleux
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                    They have already been flushed out. I can send the email from the original author if you are not convinced http://www.developerfusion.com/members/resbyauthor.aspx?id=3357[^] Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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                    • S Stephane Rodriguez

                      Jonathan de Halleux wrote: He should be sentenced to eternal damnation Hint : it's not a He.

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      It's unlike you to be so reticent, Stephane. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      • J Jonathan de Halleux

                        They have already been flushed out. I can send the email from the original author if you are not convinced http://www.developerfusion.com/members/resbyauthor.aspx?id=3357[^] Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Jonathan de Halleux wrote: I can send the email from the original author if you are not convinced That's for management to sort out - I just find it difficult to believe, though not inconceivable. I was curious to see which articles are involved, and what - if any - steps were taken to credit the original author. You don't identify either the originals or the copies at CP in your post, and the tone of the post implies that this is a rampant problem. I strongly doubt that. Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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                          Jonathan de Halleux wrote: I can send the email from the original author if you are not convinced That's for management to sort out - I just find it difficult to believe, though not inconceivable. I was curious to see which articles are involved, and what - if any - steps were taken to credit the original author. You don't identify either the originals or the copies at CP in your post, and the tone of the post implies that this is a rampant problem. I strongly doubt that. Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small

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                          Jonathan de Halleux
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                          Roger Wright wrote: . I was curious to see which articles are involved, and what - if any - steps were taken to credit the original author. The article posted on CP was "ASP.NET & Databases : Part 1". This is a serie of at least 3 articles. The plagier had already cut-and-pasted 2. No credit was given, he had not even takened the time to fix the syntax. Roger Wright wrote: I just find it difficult to believe, though not inconceivable I agree with you but you should be aware that no all play by the rules on the internet. Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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                            By spelling it in several ways, he makes sure that he'll spell it right at least once :) Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day :-D Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                            Daniel Turini wrote: Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day Not the way I break 'em they don't! ;) How do you move in a world of fog, That's always changing things? Makes me wish that i could be a dog, When i see the price that you pay.

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                            • S Stephane Rodriguez

                              Jonathan de Halleux wrote: He should be sentenced to eternal damnation Hint : it's not a He.

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                              Rob Manderson
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                              Dammit Bob, he's on to you!!! Rob Manderson Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure Americans could use more of it, and thus reduce the world supply faster. This of course would be good, because the faster we run out globally, the less chance of pollution there will be. (Talking about the price of petrol) The Soapbox, March 5 2004

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                              • J Jonathan de Halleux

                                No more plaggia on CP, please! How is the plaggia problem tackled right now ? The two articles on ASP database are shameless cut-and-paste from Philip Quinn articles written back in 2001. Plaggia is the worst form of intellectual roberry, it has no place on CP. Here are several proposal to tackle plagirism: - Since it is a strong accusation, the authors of such plaggia should be able to argue why they did it and the decision should be left to CP team - Similarly to the purgatory, there should be inferno where the article would disappear in flames - Authors that repeatidely do such things should be banned or marked (with a special icon: I love plagia) Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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                                Rick York
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                                Here's another one to have a look at. Compare this with Q141499 from MSDN. I have already posted my opinion of it. a two cent stamp short of going postal.

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                                  Jonathan de Halleux wrote: He should be sentenced to eternal damnation Hint : it's not a He.

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                                  Barry Lapthorn
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                                  Marc Clifton wrote: You can email me, the editor in question, any other editor, or Chris directly with your concerns, and we'll take care of it. If you don't do that, then your accusations are groundless and hurtful. I agree entirely. If you have a problem with plagiarism, contact us with the details of where you think the original article resides to back up the claim. Don't post without evidence, otherwise it's just offensive, and reflects badly on all involved, including you. Regards, Barry

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                                  • S Stephane Rodriguez

                                    Even when a CP editor plagiarizes an article found elsewhere?

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                                    Gary R Wheeler
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                                    I feel a strong need to reply to your consistently negative view of things here at CodeProject. If you dislike the site, and especially its strong Microsoft emphasis, why do you come here? :confused: Based upon the expertise shown in your articles, it can't be because you're looking for help :suss:.


                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      I feel a strong need to reply to your consistently negative view of things here at CodeProject. If you dislike the site, and especially its strong Microsoft emphasis, why do you come here? :confused: Based upon the expertise shown in your articles, it can't be because you're looking for help :suss:.


                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Stephane Rodriguez
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                                      Not only is this untrue, it is the freedom of speech which seems embarassing to you. I hope you understand I hope not willing to discuss this with you. When I have a strong feeling about something happening here, I'll point it out again and, for the record, I did for the thing I am pointing out. Do your research mate.

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