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  • B Brakanjan

    Hi Could you guys check if my homework is correct: Q A box (A) contains 8 apples and 4 oranges Another box (B) containes 10 apples and 2 oranges A fruit is picked from a random box, and found to be an apple. what is the chance of this apple comming from box A. Use Bayes theorem. scroll down for my answer A: 8/12 * 1/2 ---------------------- 8/12 * 1/2 + 10/12 * 1/2 = 0.444

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    Daniel Wilson
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    You're right. I didn't go through and calculate .444 but the equation above it is correct. Out of curiosity how might you calculate this without using Bayes theorem? Saying "use Bayes theorem" is kinda redundant... or at least it is to me as I can't think of another way to approach it.

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      You're right. I didn't go through and calculate .444 but the equation above it is correct. Out of curiosity how might you calculate this without using Bayes theorem? Saying "use Bayes theorem" is kinda redundant... or at least it is to me as I can't think of another way to approach it.

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      Brakanjan
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      Daniel Wilson wrote: Saying "use Bayes theorem" is kinda redundant just a helpful hint, I suppose. tx:)

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      • B brianwelsch

        Not to mention the possibility that you pick up an apple masquerading as an orange. Those fruit can be wile, you know. BW CP Member Homepages


        "Miraculous you call it babe? You ain't seen nothing yet.
        They got Pepsi in the Andes. They got McDonalds in Tibet"

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        Neville Franks
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        Or you may have a rotten apple.:-D Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com and coming soon: Surfulater www.surfulater.com

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        • D Daniel Wilson

          You're right. I didn't go through and calculate .444 but the equation above it is correct. Out of curiosity how might you calculate this without using Bayes theorem? Saying "use Bayes theorem" is kinda redundant... or at least it is to me as I can't think of another way to approach it.

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          Daniel Turini
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          Daniel Wilson wrote: or at least it is to me as I can't think of another way to approach it. There's always the Monte Carlo approach... :-D Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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          • D Daniel Wilson

            You're right. I didn't go through and calculate .444 but the equation above it is correct. Out of curiosity how might you calculate this without using Bayes theorem? Saying "use Bayes theorem" is kinda redundant... or at least it is to me as I can't think of another way to approach it.

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            Andy Brummer
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            There is always brute force. Calculate all posibilities and just count apples and oranges. (or boxes in this case.) My goal is to look at code like a chessmaster looks at a chessboard to see positions and possibilites beyond lines and characters.

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            • B Brakanjan

              Hi Could you guys check if my homework is correct: Q A box (A) contains 8 apples and 4 oranges Another box (B) containes 10 apples and 2 oranges A fruit is picked from a random box, and found to be an apple. what is the chance of this apple comming from box A. Use Bayes theorem. scroll down for my answer A: 8/12 * 1/2 ---------------------- 8/12 * 1/2 + 10/12 * 1/2 = 0.444

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              tidge
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              The true answer is that there is no apple.

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              • B brianwelsch

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                "Miraculous you call it babe? You ain't seen nothing yet.
                They got Pepsi in the Andes. They got McDonalds in Tibet"

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                Brian Delahunty
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                I just saw this thread now and I was about to answer with that. :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
                http://www.briandela.com/pictures Now with a pictures section :-D
                http://www.briandela.com/rss/newsrss.xml RSS Feed

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                • A Andy Brummer

                  There is always brute force. Calculate all posibilities and just count apples and oranges. (or boxes in this case.) My goal is to look at code like a chessmaster looks at a chessboard to see positions and possibilites beyond lines and characters.

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                  Lost User
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                  andy brummer wrote: My goal is to look at code like a chessmaster looks at a chessboard to see positions and possibilites beyond lines and characters. ...and wait for the computer (and illiterate users...) beat you at the game :) My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                  • B Brakanjan

                    Hi Could you guys check if my homework is correct: Q A box (A) contains 8 apples and 4 oranges Another box (B) containes 10 apples and 2 oranges A fruit is picked from a random box, and found to be an apple. what is the chance of this apple comming from box A. Use Bayes theorem. scroll down for my answer A: 8/12 * 1/2 ---------------------- 8/12 * 1/2 + 10/12 * 1/2 = 0.444

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                    leppie
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                    You cant compare oranges to apples! top secret

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                    • A Andy Brummer

                      There is always brute force. Calculate all posibilities and just count apples and oranges. (or boxes in this case.) My goal is to look at code like a chessmaster looks at a chessboard to see positions and possibilites beyond lines and characters.

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                      Daniel Turini
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                      andy brummer wrote: There is always brute force. Calculate all posibilities and just count apples and oranges. (or boxes in this case.) You can make it sound more impressive calling it "the Monte Carlo statistical modelling" (I'm serious) :) Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                      • A Andy Brummer

                        There is always brute force. Calculate all posibilities and just count apples and oranges. (or boxes in this case.) My goal is to look at code like a chessmaster looks at a chessboard to see positions and possibilites beyond lines and characters.

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                        Daniel Wilson
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                        In this case they are one in the same since there isn't a bias towards one basket. 8/12 * 1/2 24 ---------------------- * ----- 8/12 * 1/2 + 10/12 * 1/2 24 = 8 --- 18 = .444

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                        • B Brakanjan

                          Daniel Wilson wrote: Saying "use Bayes theorem" is kinda redundant just a helpful hint, I suppose. tx:)

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                          Daniel Wilson
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                          I guess technically we are both wrong since .444 isn't the "right" answer but instead .4444444 with 4 repeating ad infinitum but I can figure out how to put a line above the 4. ;P

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                          • D Daniel Turini

                            andy brummer wrote: There is always brute force. Calculate all posibilities and just count apples and oranges. (or boxes in this case.) You can make it sound more impressive calling it "the Monte Carlo statistical modelling" (I'm serious) :) Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                            Daniel Wilson
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                            Again I am amazed by the power of marketing. :-D

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                            • B Brian Delahunty

                              I just saw this thread now and I was about to answer with that. :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
                              http://www.briandela.com/pictures Now with a pictures section :-D
                              http://www.briandela.com/rss/newsrss.xml RSS Feed

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                              brianwelsch
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                              Great names think alike. BW CP Member Homepages


                              "Miraculous you call it babe? You ain't seen nothing yet.
                              They got Pepsi in the Andes. They got McDonalds in Tibet"

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                                andy brummer wrote: There is always brute force. Calculate all posibilities and just count apples and oranges. (or boxes in this case.) You can make it sound more impressive calling it "the Monte Carlo statistical modelling" (I'm serious) :) Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

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                                Andy Brummer
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                                That's the lazy version. Monte Carlo only calculates some of the results and then assumes all the rest are the same. It's great using statistics to calculate statistical results. There's a 20% chance that there is a 30% chance that it was the second box. My goal is to look at code like a chessmaster looks at a chessboard to see positions and possibilites beyond lines and characters.

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                                • B Brakanjan

                                  Hi Could you guys check if my homework is correct: Q A box (A) contains 8 apples and 4 oranges Another box (B) containes 10 apples and 2 oranges A fruit is picked from a random box, and found to be an apple. what is the chance of this apple comming from box A. Use Bayes theorem. scroll down for my answer A: 8/12 * 1/2 ---------------------- 8/12 * 1/2 + 10/12 * 1/2 = 0.444

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                                  Orhun Birsoy
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                                  0.5 It is either from box A or not.;P

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