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I sense you are a Christian. But the earth survived. But the life didn't. That is exactly the defeatist attitude that angers me to no end. A hell of a lot if you really tried. Okay, tell me. I recycle most of my rubbish; I use lead free petrol in my car; I turn of the engine in traffic jams; I vote for the party I beleive will make a difference to the old and the young; I don't litter, and have a go at those I see doing so; I actively support 3rd world charities such as Oxfam (I own a flock of goats - seriously, I do); I don't waste water; I even helped an old lady to her car the other day. Now what, honestly, have I done, or got to show for it? Nothing. Our landfills are filling faster than ever; cities are filling with dangerous C0 smogs; the party I voted for did not get in; i see more rubbish in the roads than in the bins; Charity work invariably only helps those who don't really need it; the water mains outside my house has burst many times in the past year; the old lady will be dead next year. Again, everything is insignificant and temporary. The only people with the real power to do anything permanent are those with power. "power of the individual" is a buzz word, much like "freedom of speech". If only we lived in an ideal world. So don't lecture me on the merits and shortfalls of a defeatist attitude. I am being realistic, but that doesn't mean I will stop trying. Also, thermonuclear devices don't require a belief in god. It is moronic to even link the two. It is moronic to have faith with a religion, given all the serious flaws. The fact that it can't be explained sufficently to oudsiders only seems to anger the faithfull at the athiests obviously blind stupidity, yet they are still unable to see it themselves. However, this is not the time for yet another religious mudslinging match. Just face it, my penis is bigger than yours. (It holds the same amount of water in an argument - no pun intended) Read it, get over it. However, it is not moronic at all. Saddam Hussein is a religious man, yet he was building biological weaponry (fairly advanced stuff according to Janes Biological Warfare monthly). Please don't tell me he was doing this for any other reasons than so he could use them to further his cause. Of course, his faith allowed him to remove all the difficult aspects of the issue, like justifing the deaths of millions of innocent people - as he was on god's side, he was okay. That is the belief I am talking about. Thermonuclear dev
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Now what, honestly, have I done, or got to show for it? David, like all great visionaries, you are not appreciated in your own lifetime. Never fear - history will recall the man that gave the earth BOB and the BLA. I, for one, thank you! ----------------------------- "My name is Sven und I am from Sveden. I am making das moovies mit mine friend Inga, fvor ve are very poor." - Christian Graus, Oct 29 2001 -----------------------------
Never fear - history will recall the man that gave the earth BOB and the BLA. Bob was not born of any mortal man, he was created from the very dust that forms Saturn's rocky rings, by the great hand of Kirstan O'Brian - the ex. CBBC presenter. I was merely chosen to help spread the word, and prove I may just be more geek like than nerdy. :omg: But seriously, it's people like Tim, who have a go at me for speaking the plain - but unfortunate - truth, despite the fact I probably do more than them, that really get up my nose. They 3rd on my list of pet hates, right under Jehovas Wintesses and Inbred Female Dwarves. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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David say Saddam Hussein is a religion man this is impossible 1000% ,nevr nevr a religion man hurt anybody els ,aven a cat ,a dog . Amy
Each man is free to interpret religion as he sees fit. That is the problem. And don't some Hindus eat Cats? David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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David say Saddam Hussein is a religion man this is impossible 1000% ,nevr nevr a religion man hurt anybody els ,aven a cat ,a dog . Amy
Depending on your definition of religion. It could be argued that religion has caused more suffering, hurt and death than any other of man's inventions. Michael :-)
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I think you'll find that things have pretty much always been like this, in one form or another, but the past few generations have had access to mass global media, which trys to compare other cultures and civilisations to our own standards. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
Of course man is just a monkey with delusions of grandeur :-) Michael :-)
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Depending on your definition of religion. It could be argued that religion has caused more suffering, hurt and death than any other of man's inventions. Michael :-)
The Spanish Inquisition (though it was funny in History of the World Part I). ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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I bet the dinosaurs never worried about such things. Maybe thats why they lasted so long...... Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
yeah - they just hung around stomping on things. Ah - what a life. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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Been thinking of our future. Humanity's future. There are people who think we'll vanish before 2200. Well assume that we live for another 50,000 years. That's not much, not at all! The dinosaurs were on this planet for well over 50 million years [even this might be a low estimate]. If you look at it that way, rthe dinosaurs were greater achievers in the sense that they lasted 1000 times more than we did with less than a millionth of our brain capacity. I wish I could be frozen when I am 35 and then warmed back alive after 1 million years. What do I expect? Alien-looking future-humans? Intelligent Insects? A dead planet? Or will I see the sun go nova? Or will I see Colin trying to sell VMTU to some semi-intelligent plants from alaska? Just makes you wonder.... Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
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This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
I've talked with Bob, and he assures me that the Cadbury Planetary Aliegance will protect us from the little green men. The little penquins though are another matter altogether - they are set to destroy the world. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
Scientific American has a good article on why life is so hard to achieve. This means that space exploration alone won't do us any good. We need at least another 100 years to be able to create the correct materials, and overcome this gravity thing that holds us close to our planet, and won't let us go up fast and cheap. Anyway, we can really survive for that long a time anyway, it looks like we'll be in a new cold age soon (50-100 years), If we don't have a nuclear winter sooner that is. However, even when we disappear, and our planet gives birth to something, else, and then again, and again. All energy gets moved around in different types of matter, everything decays (at the quantum level), and eventually everything (including us) will disappear. There is nothing we can do, Not now, not ever, once the decay is over, there will be nothing in the universe just nothing. I don't remember exactly how long it will take, but ask a theoretical physicist and they will tell you. I like to read physics books, and I read this on many of them ((http://www.mkaku.org/ Michiu Kaku’s black holes, worm holes and the 10th dimension is one of them, short and very easy to read). Therefore, no matter what we do, or what anybody does, eventually we'll all disintegrate into nothing. I try to recycle and save watter and Im buying on of those hybrid cards (im going for the insight), not that it'll make a big difference. But even a small difference is better than no difference at all.
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Scientific American has a good article on why life is so hard to achieve. This means that space exploration alone won't do us any good. We need at least another 100 years to be able to create the correct materials, and overcome this gravity thing that holds us close to our planet, and won't let us go up fast and cheap. Anyway, we can really survive for that long a time anyway, it looks like we'll be in a new cold age soon (50-100 years), If we don't have a nuclear winter sooner that is. However, even when we disappear, and our planet gives birth to something, else, and then again, and again. All energy gets moved around in different types of matter, everything decays (at the quantum level), and eventually everything (including us) will disappear. There is nothing we can do, Not now, not ever, once the decay is over, there will be nothing in the universe just nothing. I don't remember exactly how long it will take, but ask a theoretical physicist and they will tell you. I like to read physics books, and I read this on many of them ((http://www.mkaku.org/ Michiu Kaku’s black holes, worm holes and the 10th dimension is one of them, short and very easy to read). Therefore, no matter what we do, or what anybody does, eventually we'll all disintegrate into nothing. I try to recycle and save watter and Im buying on of those hybrid cards (im going for the insight), not that it'll make a big difference. But even a small difference is better than no difference at all.
rcVu is right in that everything is dead later it is a good point ,we should do good things . the matter i raised also was : why don't we think of after our life i really have a solid matter exactly what rcVU said you can email me if you like to talk about that .my email linx5551@firstlinux.net Thanks Amy
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rcVu is right in that everything is dead later it is a good point ,we should do good things . the matter i raised also was : why don't we think of after our life i really have a solid matter exactly what rcVU said you can email me if you like to talk about that .my email linx5551@firstlinux.net Thanks Amy
The point is not only 'why don't we think of what happens after our life', but also 'why don't we think of what happends to others after we die'. I think if everyone lived to 200 there would be a vastly different mindset. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. True. Very true. I am in total agreement. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
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Been thinking of our future. Humanity's future. There are people who think we'll vanish before 2200. Well assume that we live for another 50,000 years. That's not much, not at all! The dinosaurs were on this planet for well over 50 million years [even this might be a low estimate]. If you look at it that way, rthe dinosaurs were greater achievers in the sense that they lasted 1000 times more than we did with less than a millionth of our brain capacity. I wish I could be frozen when I am 35 and then warmed back alive after 1 million years. What do I expect? Alien-looking future-humans? Intelligent Insects? A dead planet? Or will I see the sun go nova? Or will I see Colin trying to sell VMTU to some semi-intelligent plants from alaska? Just makes you wonder.... Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
Hey, think about it: what would you do if you know that you'll die tomorrow ? Hey, humanity will vanish tomorrow ? YEAH, PARTY !!!!!! Think about the possibilities. And I don't give a **** if my grand-grand-grand-grand son will live 1, 2, 50 or 150 years. I won't be here anymore. Nor you. Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
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This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. True. Very true. I am in total agreement. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
If Einstien is right and that travel at high speed means that time slows down , then who the hell will go on these forays into deep space knowing that if they ever return all their friends and family will be dead ? It would be nice to have a faster than light travel , but according to current physics it is not clear that such travel is a practical possibility , some people theorise that it might be possible , but her now , it most certainly is not. Therefore given not only our current technology but our current understanding of physics then intertellar travel is not possible. We must be careful notto confuse what we would like to happen with what is physically possible. We are marooned on this planet and we are screwing it up in the groundless hope that future generations will find another one for them to screw up for themselves.
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The point is not only 'why don't we think of what happens after our life', but also 'why don't we think of what happends to others after we die'. I think if everyone lived to 200 there would be a vastly different mindset. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
Well said! David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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Hey, think about it: what would you do if you know that you'll die tomorrow ? Hey, humanity will vanish tomorrow ? YEAH, PARTY !!!!!! Think about the possibilities. And I don't give a **** if my grand-grand-grand-grand son will live 1, 2, 50 or 150 years. I won't be here anymore. Nor you. Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
unless all those stories of Reincarnation happen to be true... Wouldn't it be grand to be reincarnated as a tree and watch yourself getting pissed on by dogs, and eaten by termites, dug in by squirrels and puked on by prats from a Frat house?? What fun. "Oh death, where is thy sting?" How this has to do with the future of humanity I have no clue, I was making an aside comment..:) As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.