Where and What did you study?
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Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future
The school of life works best. I started aged 13 and never looked back from there. Try things yourself, don't wait for a lecturer to hand you a book to learn. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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The school of life works best. I started aged 13 and never looked back from there. Try things yourself, don't wait for a lecturer to hand you a book to learn. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
hehe, Paul you know that's bad advice. Just to prove it to you, I'm quitting my job and becoming a blues guitar player :-D If I fail, I'm hunting you down! Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
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Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future
4-year Computer science (HONS) sandwich course at University of Teesside UK I concentrated on hardware units in my final year. Before that I was completely self taught - actually I probably am still self taught :laugh: Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.
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Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future
Aston University[^] (Birmingham, UK). I initially enrolled to study [MEng Electronic Systems Engineering](http://MEng Electronic Systems Engineering)[[^](http://MEng Electronic Systems Engineering "New Window")], of which I completed two years. In the third year I missed a whole load of lectures due to being ill, lazy and too involved in outside activities. On the morning of the first exam I went to my professor and basically said 'I can't do any of these exams'. The department opted to let me re-sit the year. Over that summer I did a lot of thinking about what had gone wrong, what had gone right and what I really wanted to do with my career. I came to the conclusion that I had done better in, and preferred, the computing courses to the electronics courses, particularly the quantum physics involved in semiconductors and optical electronics. So I asked for a transfer to BSc Computing Science[^]. They agreed that the material I'd already covered on ESE (some of which were final year CS courses!) covered the first year, so I was transferred to the second year. I ended up with a 2:2 (Lower Second Class Honours) BSc in Computing Science, taking five years to get a three-year degree. However, I did understand some courses better the second time around: I ended up getting two doses of C, C++, Operating Systems, Formal Software Development and Legal and Professional Aspects of Computing. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future
- Engineer in Applied Mathematics ( UCl, http://www.ucl.ac.be/[^] ) - Finishing Phd Doctorate in the same university of Stabilization of the quasilinear hyperbolic systems. ps: I'm teaching C/C++ to third year students :) Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph
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Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future
Queens University in Kingston, Ontario. I earned a BSc in Mining Engineering, but all my jobs involved instrumentation and computers. I eventually attended what was then called The Honeywell Institute for Computer Studies and have been doing software exclusively since then. Oh, btw, that's over twenty years ago, since it may not be as relevant as a career path now. Like others have mentioned, I eventually learned C, C++, and SQL along the way. That's my mainstay for now. :) Chris Meech We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton VB is like a toolbox, in the hands of a craftsman, you can end up with some amazing stuff, but without the skills to use it right you end up with Homer Simpson's attempt at building a barbeque or his attempt at a Spice rack. Michael P. Butler
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I read a book on FORTRAN II between high school and college, then had to take a class in it at Cal Poly, Pomona, as part of my electronics engineering degree program. I picked up 8080 Assembly, BASIC, GDBASIC, HPBASIC, Ada, hpl, Jovial, ATLAS, and a few other languages on the job, as every assignment required a new language and a new operating system. On my own time I played with Turbo Pascal, Prolog, PAL, Java, VB, C++, and a variety of scripting languages, none of which I do really well at, but I have fun and can get a task done with them. It matters far less what school you attend than what you do with what you're taught. A lot of schools will give you a good, well-recognized degree, but leave you helpless to do any actual work. I hired a bunch of UCLA, Stanford, and other big-name school graduates in my time, and all were fairly useless until I trained them in the real world. Good students from less well known schools who took advantage of the opportunity offered them, rather than just following the basic curriculum, were far more useful. Apply what you learn, wherever you go, to real world applications; don't just turn in assignments. Academecians don't live in the real world, and will not give you any experience of value. Code, code, code - every idea that comes to you while you're learning, turn into a working app. Then after some time reflecting on your work, improve it. Learn to spot your own errors before someone else does, and take heed of your own errors; learn from your mistakes. No one learns by doing it right the first time. I've felt much better since I gave up hope.
Roger Wright wrote: Code, code, code one of my professors used to write ABP on the board from time to time. It was his motto, and meant "Always Be Programming". It's easy to say yeah, whatever, I understand the material, but until you've applied a concept several times, you won't really grok it. BW CP Member Homepages
"Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning" -
4-year Computer science (HONS) sandwich course at University of Teesside UK I concentrated on hardware units in my final year. Before that I was completely self taught - actually I probably am still self taught :laugh: Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.
Roger Allen wrote: 4-year Computer science Roger Allen wrote: sandwich course I fail to understand how learning the proper methodology to layering lunch meats will improve your coding skills. :confused: BW CP Member Homepages
"Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning" -
Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future
Peter Reiter wrote: Where did you study and what subjects did you study? Not that it will help decide anything about your future, but since you asked...I earned a CS degree from each of these schools: http://www.eosc.cc.ok.us/ http://www.ecok.edu/ http://osu.okstate.edu/
"The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)
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Roger Allen wrote: 4-year Computer science Roger Allen wrote: sandwich course I fail to understand how learning the proper methodology to layering lunch meats will improve your coding skills. :confused: BW CP Member Homepages
"Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning"If the pastrami and bologna are not aligned on even bytes, indigestion can ensue, resulting in too much time driving the porcelain bus, and ultimately not being able to code for the remainder of the day. How's that?
"The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)
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hehe, Paul you know that's bad advice. Just to prove it to you, I'm quitting my job and becoming a blues guitar player :-D If I fail, I'm hunting you down! Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
:laugh: Ant.
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If the pastrami and bologna are not aligned on even bytes, indigestion can ensue, resulting in too much time driving the porcelain bus, and ultimately not being able to code for the remainder of the day. How's that?
"The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)
I think I get it. I guess I've been blessed with a strong stomach, so with an exception of too much bacon on my pizza, I manage to avoid undue queasiness. BW CP Member Homepages
"Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning" -
Roger Allen wrote: 4-year Computer science Roger Allen wrote: sandwich course I fail to understand how learning the proper methodology to layering lunch meats will improve your coding skills. :confused: BW CP Member Homepages
"Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning"brianwelsch wrote: I fail to understand how learning the proper methodology to layering lunch meats will improve your coding skills. If the brain does not get enough sustenance, it fails to work correctly. Seriously, its where you do 2 years a UNI, 1 in industry and back to UNI for your final year. So you leave with work experience. Its called a sandwich course as the year in industry is sandwiched in there. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.
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- Engineer in Applied Mathematics ( UCl, http://www.ucl.ac.be/[^] ) - Finishing Phd Doctorate in the same university of Stabilization of the quasilinear hyperbolic systems. ps: I'm teaching C/C++ to third year students :) Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph
Jonathan de Halleux wrote: ps: I'm teaching C/C++ to third year students Looks, like the quality of future programmers is going down! ;) From what you said at the euroCP meet, I am surprised you do anything other than write articles! Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.
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Jonathan de Halleux wrote: ps: I'm teaching C/C++ to third year students Looks, like the quality of future programmers is going down! ;) From what you said at the euroCP meet, I am surprised you do anything other than write articles! Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.
:) :) Roger Allen wrote: Looks, like the quality of future programmers is going down! Once you've reached the bottom, you can just go up :) Roger Allen wrote: From what you said at the euroCP meet, I am surprised you do anything other than write articles! Shuut, don't tell my boss! Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph
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brianwelsch wrote: I fail to understand how learning the proper methodology to layering lunch meats will improve your coding skills. If the brain does not get enough sustenance, it fails to work correctly. Seriously, its where you do 2 years a UNI, 1 in industry and back to UNI for your final year. So you leave with work experience. Its called a sandwich course as the year in industry is sandwiched in there. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.
Roger Allen wrote: 1 in industry and back to UNI for your final year Ahh. Thanks, never heard that term before. Like doing an internship, then? You don't have to be in Sandwich for that year either, correct? :rolleyes: BW CP Member Homepages
"Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning" -
Roger Wright wrote: Code, code, code one of my professors used to write ABP on the board from time to time. It was his motto, and meant "Always Be Programming". It's easy to say yeah, whatever, I understand the material, but until you've applied a concept several times, you won't really grok it. BW CP Member Homepages
"Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning"brianwelsch wrote: until you've applied a concept several times, you won't really grok it. Exactly. I "know" C++, but can I sit down at the computer and compose a Windows program? Not a chance. It's not a hard language, but I need a handful of reference books and hours of trial and error programming to get one to work. When I did it for a living, programming was easy; so, for that matter, was electronics design. I had half a dozen languages I used regularly and several hundred electronic components I was intimately familiar with. Even a mediocre school will give him access to information, whether they teach it properly or not. It's up to the student to make the effort to become excellent, and that can be done almost anywhere. I've felt much better since I gave up hope.