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    pgfraz
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    I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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      I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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      eggie5
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      GOOD TIPS HERE[^] Try volunteering with an open source project. /\ |_ E X E GG

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        I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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        Nick Parker
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        Just a suggestion, but after looking I noticed you haven't posted any articles. This is not to say that you need to do such a thing, however this could be a nice entry on your resume, allowing you to learn something new, share it with others and impress a possible employer. - Nick Parker
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          I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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          Navin
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          Internships are always good, if you can find them. Sometimes I feel like I'm a USB printer in a parallel universe.

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            Just a suggestion, but after looking I noticed you haven't posted any articles. This is not to say that you need to do such a thing, however this could be a nice entry on your resume, allowing you to learn something new, share it with others and impress a possible employer. - Nick Parker
            My Blog | My Articles

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            pgfraz
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            Thanks a lot!!! It means a lot. I am currently working on my own version of the Matrix screensaver. In the long term I would like to turn it into some sort of editor, along with some sort of structure to the glyphs to give it proper translation. I'm a geek at heart. I am a week away from gettin my motherboard in desktop replaced so I can start learning asp technologies. Once I get some the screensaver hammered out I planned on posting it. I'm a perfectionist at heart and don't want to put out bad code. I owe ya one. I have been trying to get a group of fellow graduates together to work on some group project on something so we can post our contributions to the project with our resumes. I am always looking for something new to challenge me. I am eternaly greatful. thanks again Pete pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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              I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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              Jon Sagara
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              Get your BS. Do an internship. It's less pay, but at least you'll have your foot in the door.

              Jon Sagara Vegetarianism is unhealthy. Humans need protein, and lots of it. Put down those sprouts and pick up a T-bone! -- Michael Moore
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                I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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                Terry ONolley
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                Apply for a position as a tester or IT person in a company that is large enough to also have developers. Once you are inside, get to know the people and apply for any jobs that open up. That is what they mean by starting at the bottom. My first job in the industry was as an IT tech doing PC hardware support as a contractor at Hewlett-Packard. That lead to a contract position as a software developer for another department and they later hired me as a full-time employee. I never would have been hired there if I just submitted applications for positions posted publicly.


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                  I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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                  The best shopping carts are at Lucky's. You can make an excellent sign with a cardboard box and a grease pencil. Sleeping in doorways will help keep the rain off. Oh, and contrary to popular belief, food stamps are not edible.:) Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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                    I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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                    Maxwell Chen
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                    pgfraz wrote: The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. I've never sent anyone any programs that I wrote while I was looking for my first job. ;) pgfraz wrote: Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? 1) How about joining those open source projects? For example, have a look at www.sourceforge.net . 2) Don't you need salary for your living? :wtf: Maxwell Chen

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                      I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      At the risk of offending previous posters, don't waste your time writing articles or working on open source projects. For your first job, put money and enjoyment aside. Try to find any work, any where, even an internship if it comes to that. If possible, find an employer who pays for continuing education. Be willing to do extremely tedious work. Another possibility is to get an unrelated job at a company and work yourself into another position. Unfortunately, there is no "trick" to getting jobs. For me, it has been a lot of hard work. Early in my career, I was also able to be, excuse the cliche, proactive and take one job and turn it into another. I also didn't pass on jobs just because they didn't look appealing. Of course, looking back, I wouldn't repeat those years. (Then again, I wouldn't repeat early last year, when I was unemployed, or the year before when I was employed but working for the employer from hell.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                        I graduated last Decemeber with a Associates degree in computer programming. I have found it to be many, many times more work getting first job then my entire schooling experience. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting ones foot in the door? The number of applications and resumes I have sent out is laughable. In the end its the whole experience issue that kills my chances. Any ideas on how to gain experience without getting employeed? I'm going crazy working these factory jobs to make ends meet. I truely love programming and loosing my mind not being able to get payed for it. Thanks for your time. Peter Frazier... aspiring codemonkey pgfrazier_codemonkey@hotmail.com

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                        Antony M Kancidrowski
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                        You could try getting involved with an open source project. Something that you could point potential employers at on the net. If you are after a games programming job, write a game. Applications programming write an application and send it with your CV. It might just give you enough of an edge. Anything that can show you have ambition and drive. Ant.

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