It's been 4 years today...
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Congratulations! I'm at 4.5 and counting. ----------------------- New and improved: kwakkelflap.com My second CP article: MAP files[^] "Hey, Eddie, can I pour you a beer?" "A little early, isn't it, Richy?" "For a beer?" "No, for stupid questions."
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Celebrate with a nice cigar... :-D Iain.
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Celebrate with a nice cigar... :-D Iain.
In fact, I sometimes smoke cigar. About twice a year. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Congratulations! :rose: While I've cut back, I'm still working on it myself. I've tried cold turkey and - because of the stress and hectic project schedules (changes every week with conflicting priorities in a start-up that's poorly managed at times) - I was ready to start pulling heads off. Yeah, I know it's an excuse but it's a damn good one! Anything work for you in particular? I never really smoked that much anyway (about a pack/2 days was ever the most), but the gum just doesn't seem to do it for me. I think a lot of the dependence is more on getting away and doing something while taking a break and thinking about things / recollecting myself. I still uphold that these types of businesses need punching bags in their weight rooms (if available)!
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Heath Stewart wrote: I still uphold that these types of businesses need punching bags in their weight rooms Hire only large, sturdy interns and tell them that frequent beatings are normal in the software industry as a means of stimulating creative thought. Of course, you'll want them to move on to another company before they get enough seniority to think they can return the beatings... Alternatively, get a Body Operated Bag (BOB)[^] for your office or cubicle.:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
You will only be cleared until you loses count. :) Weiye Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
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Heath Stewart wrote: I still uphold that these types of businesses need punching bags in their weight rooms Hire only large, sturdy interns and tell them that frequent beatings are normal in the software industry as a means of stimulating creative thought. Of course, you'll want them to move on to another company before they get enough seniority to think they can return the beatings... Alternatively, get a Body Operated Bag (BOB)[^] for your office or cubicle.:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
Actually, it's the CEO / self-proclaimed programmer (he was decent with AutoLISP 15+ years ago and think that means anything now) that's the biggest problem. We also have industrial engineers coding the UIs and algorithms, among other things that our small development staff doesn't have time for since we work on the core things. They're decent, but definitely don't have the experience or mindset to write good, efficient code. Add that to the other management problems I mentioned earlier, and it's a bad situation. I'm...well...dipping my toes in the market to help rectify the problem, which may help me eliminate the "need" to smoke (having one or two projects to work on instead of many, many projects with constantly changing schedules and priorities makes things very tough). We just need more developers, but can't afford them right now. :sigh:
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
31 years and counting!! :-D ...but then I never started so perhaps that doesn't count! ;P Ant.
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Are you sure that you were not the passive smoker too ?;P
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31 years and counting!! :-D ...but then I never started so perhaps that doesn't count! ;P Ant.
2 years and counting, well 2 years when i started.:laugh:
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Good for you :-D My mother stopped smoking when we were little. If not, she might not be with us now. The tigress is here :-D
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Actually, it's the CEO / self-proclaimed programmer (he was decent with AutoLISP 15+ years ago and think that means anything now) that's the biggest problem. We also have industrial engineers coding the UIs and algorithms, among other things that our small development staff doesn't have time for since we work on the core things. They're decent, but definitely don't have the experience or mindset to write good, efficient code. Add that to the other management problems I mentioned earlier, and it's a bad situation. I'm...well...dipping my toes in the market to help rectify the problem, which may help me eliminate the "need" to smoke (having one or two projects to work on instead of many, many projects with constantly changing schedules and priorities makes things very tough). We just need more developers, but can't afford them right now. :sigh:
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Heath Stewart wrote: We just need more developers, but can't afford them right now. That seems always to be the story. At Northrop, while working on ATE for Trident, we had a hiring freeze imposed on us so long that we were falling seriously far behind schedule. The PM managed to get HR to relent, but then they refused to let us use headhunters. Internal effforts by HR were fruitless, and by the time they admitted that they were unable to find the help we needed we had 1800 manmonths of design and programming load in order to deliver in 18 months. Once they let loose the chains, I had to find, interview, and hire 100 engineers and programmers in 30 days. You can easily imagine how much design effort I contributed that month...:doh: When beancounters run the company, the company is doomed. A year after I left that division, it was closed. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
My consolations.... *cuts the bottom off of a pack of Camel non-filters and lights all 20 at once*
Jeremy Kimball Moderation is for monks. -Lazarus Long And this, too, shall pass away...
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Congratulations Michel. That's a great accomplishment.
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My consolations.... *cuts the bottom off of a pack of Camel non-filters and lights all 20 at once*
Jeremy Kimball Moderation is for monks. -Lazarus Long And this, too, shall pass away...
I smoked Camel non-filters for years. I loved those ones, but quite harmful I think. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Heath Stewart wrote: We just need more developers, but can't afford them right now. That seems always to be the story. At Northrop, while working on ATE for Trident, we had a hiring freeze imposed on us so long that we were falling seriously far behind schedule. The PM managed to get HR to relent, but then they refused to let us use headhunters. Internal effforts by HR were fruitless, and by the time they admitted that they were unable to find the help we needed we had 1800 manmonths of design and programming load in order to deliver in 18 months. Once they let loose the chains, I had to find, interview, and hire 100 engineers and programmers in 30 days. You can easily imagine how much design effort I contributed that month...:doh: When beancounters run the company, the company is doomed. A year after I left that division, it was closed. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
Roger Wright wrote: When beancounters run the company, the company is doomed Been there...When I was with Thiokol here locally the bean counters decided we had 12 people more than we needed in Engineering. So the layoff came on a Friday. As I was sitting at my CAD terminal there came a tap on my shoulder and my boss said "Come with me". I was working 60 hours/week trying to get a drawing package out, so my first response was " I don't have time now, I am too busy". To which, he replied "It don't matter". I was in my last quarter of Mechanical Engineering school and 1 week before finals when I was laid off. That was on a Friday. The following week, the bean counters recounted their beans and then decided they where now 12 people short in Engineering. So now the company tried to recover the people they laid off, including me. I came back as an Engineer two weeks after I was laid off. :rolleyes: Funny thing is, bean counters are always the last to be laid off...go figure. The division closed down two or three years later...Fortunately after I went to another company.:) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
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Roger Wright wrote: When beancounters run the company, the company is doomed Been there...When I was with Thiokol here locally the bean counters decided we had 12 people more than we needed in Engineering. So the layoff came on a Friday. As I was sitting at my CAD terminal there came a tap on my shoulder and my boss said "Come with me". I was working 60 hours/week trying to get a drawing package out, so my first response was " I don't have time now, I am too busy". To which, he replied "It don't matter". I was in my last quarter of Mechanical Engineering school and 1 week before finals when I was laid off. That was on a Friday. The following week, the bean counters recounted their beans and then decided they where now 12 people short in Engineering. So now the company tried to recover the people they laid off, including me. I came back as an Engineer two weeks after I was laid off. :rolleyes: Funny thing is, bean counters are always the last to be laid off...go figure. The division closed down two or three years later...Fortunately after I went to another company.:) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
Contrary to popular belief, managers and accountants have their uses. But accountants are by training and temperment focused on recording what happenned, not making things happen. Good managers are an entirely different breed; while beancounters look for costs that can be cut, managers look for opportunities for profit. Even at TRW, the nicest place I ever worked, this simple fact was forgotten or ignored. When the old engineers who grew the company began to retire, accountants and MBAs took their places on mahogany row and the company began to decline. An MBA is little more than an accountant who can do a little marketing - they aren't automatically good managers. The good ones tend to come from the ranks of working people around whom the troops seem to rally. Their opinions are sought and respected internally, and once they've grown enough to seek new challenges outside of their technical specialty, they're ripe for the ranks of management. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Nice! I've got 2 1/2 years under my belt. cheers, -B
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... without tobacco :jig: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
I'm not going to quit until I hit my target weight goal. And I will still smoke when I go out to clubs. My BowFlex Ultima is due to arrive Friday. Look out world!!!!
Glano perictu com sahni delorin!