Anyone using VMware?
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
It's used extensively where I work, to develop EDA apps for Win NT, 2K, XP and various flavors of Unix. I haven't (yet) installed it, but everyone at work swears by it (not at it!). /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com
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Just a question, what's the overhead ??
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
My company uses it, and everyone swears by it. It is an impressive piece of technology. If you use it, however, you had better have a hot machine. It runs very well on my boss's dual processor machine, but brings my 600 mhz, 256 meg ram machine to a crawl. I pretty much have to have everything else shut down when I run it. ( I understand that the latest release is much faster, though.) Still, it is invaluable when you need to do some quick debugging in Win98/95 on an NT machine. A VMWare virtual machine is just that - a stand alone virtual machine which has its own drives. I have not fully explored it, but I do not believe that you can set it up so that it actual "sees" the same drive as your actual machine. Obviously, however, you can configure it in a networked environment to share drives, or access the same network drive just as you would from any real machine. "But, daddy, that was back in the hippie ages..." My twelve year old son - winning the argument. "Stan, you are an intelligent guy who responds in meaningful ways" Paul Watson 16/10/01
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
I use it in both my day job and in my freelance work. It's fantastic. The new version is even better though I haven't tried it personally yet. I did have one problem with it grabbing resources for RAS. No doubt there are a few other funnies but there's no contest as far as I'm concerned. Re the machine spec issue. I run it at home on a 333 Celeron with 128MB. It's slow but still definitely useable for things like 95/98. Win2k can be a problem. On a 933 at work it's fine. Overall it's pretty well transparent apart from the speed issues. Have fun Nav.
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
Neville, Buy it. It's great - I run a Windows 98 system on my PDC using VMWare so that I can test some free software under Windows 98. I also use VMWare with Linux, Novell etc. Maybe the best non-Microsoft product I have ever bought for the PC. Old Simon HB9DRV
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
I too swear by it. Client calls and they say something odd happens in Win98, no problem, just power on the Win98 virtual machine. The main use I have for it right now is messing with WinXP. I'm leary about putting it on any of my computers but a VM is the perfect get-to-know-the-os. Not to mention the software is way underpriced. :-D __________________________ do { cout << "I will never use = when I mean == " << endl; } while (i = 1)
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I'm thinking of at least evaluating VMware, but don't want to waiste my time unnecessarily. My interest is in using it for testing and debugging apps on different versions of Windows without having to reboot into each one. So does anyone have any experience with VMware or similar products? In particulary debugging inside their virtual machines? It sure would be nice to be able to step through the same code on XP and W98 at the same time to resolve issues which are specific to a Windows version. And finally does each VM see the same drives or just their own drives. I want to be able to access my source from each VM without having to make VM specific copies of it. Thanks for any insights you may have. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
Thanks for all of your replies. Sounds like I definitely need to put some time aside and check it out. Could be an excuse to get a new faster/bigger machine.:-D Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
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Just a question, what's the overhead ??
For a good setup where you'll be running Win200 and VMWare + another Win200 or XP system I would recommend 512mb. You can get by on 256 by tuning VMWare to use less ram but it's kinda slow. The only problem is the setup time. It's a pain to have to install all the os's and tools you need. But you should only need to do so once. You will also need about 2gb per OS install.
Todd Smith