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  • A Allen Anderson

    next up for patents. 'company sues people who breathe, claim their patent for mole remover devices covers inhaling and exhaling'. I realize patents are to protect intellectual property, but frankly I'm becoming more of a mind that software and business practice patents in general should just be done away with completely. Any time someone creates something valuable these days, some little known company that never contributed anything to society comes up with some outrageous patent claims to try and hit the jackpot.

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    Paul Belikian
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    Allen Anderson wrote: Any time someone creates something valuable these days, some little known company that never contributed anything to society comes up with some outrageous patent claims to try and hit the jackpot. Well, what if these small companies are the ones who created something valuable, and the bigger companies stole it?

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    • L Larry Antram

      Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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      Antony M Kancidrowski
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      Here is a free JPEG compression library from the Independent JPEG Group. http://www.ijg.org/[^] Ant.

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      • P Paul Belikian

        Allen Anderson wrote: Any time someone creates something valuable these days, some little known company that never contributed anything to society comes up with some outrageous patent claims to try and hit the jackpot. Well, what if these small companies are the ones who created something valuable, and the bigger companies stole it?

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        Allen Anderson
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        in software (which is what I'm speaking of here), if your position is that without patent protection, then nothing would be innovated.... well your sorta on your own on that one. Remember, patents weren't created for some esoteric social good. They were created so that companies would innovate in high barrier to entry fields (like hard core hardware). I'm saying that in software and in business practices, I think patents are doing infinitely more harm than good.

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        • L Larry Antram

          Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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          Heath Stewart
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          Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:

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          • H Heath Stewart

            Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:

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            Larry Antram
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            If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October!

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            • L Larry Antram

              Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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              Farhan Noor Qureshi
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              Hurry up, please someone patent 1s and 0s. :D Farhan Noor Qureshi

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              • L Larry Antram

                If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October!

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                David Patrick
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                Larry Antram wrote: If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October! The article I read indicated that was October 2006 :eek:

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                • H Heath Stewart

                  Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:

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                  David Patrick
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                  Heath Stewart wrote: they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire Actually, they've been trying to milk this thing since 2002 when Sony agreed to pay like $30 million.

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                  • A Antony M Kancidrowski

                    Here is a free JPEG compression library from the Independent JPEG Group. http://www.ijg.org/[^] Ant.

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                    Chris Losinger
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                    the fact that JpegLib is "free" is irrelevant to the patent. if the patent holds for JPEG then anyone who uses an unlicened JPEG codec is in violation of the patent. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                    • L Larry Antram

                      Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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                      Steven Campbell
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                      The EFF has just kicked off their Patent Busting Project, and it deserves your support. See http://www.eff.org/Patent/ They are seeking to invalidate: # One-click online shopping (U.S. Patent No. 5,960,411.) # Online shopping carts (U.S. Patent No. 5,715,314.) # The hyperlink (U.S. Patent No. 4,873,662.) # Video streaming (U.S. Patent No. 5,132,992.) # Internationalizing domain names (U.S. Patent No. 6,182,148.) # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) # Paying with a credit card online (U.S. Patent No. 6,289,319.) # Framed browsing; (U.S. Patent Nos. 5,933,841 & 6,442,574.) and # Affiliate linking (U.S. Patent No. 6,029,141.)

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        the fact that JpegLib is "free" is irrelevant to the patent. if the patent holds for JPEG then anyone who uses an unlicened JPEG codec is in violation of the patent. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                        Tim Smith
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                        Chris is 100% correct here. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                        • D David Patrick

                          Larry Antram wrote: If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October! The article I read indicated that was October 2006 :eek:

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                          Heath Stewart
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                          The patent I read on USPTO said it was filed Oct. 6, 1987. Patents are only good for 17 years.

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                            The EFF has just kicked off their Patent Busting Project, and it deserves your support. See http://www.eff.org/Patent/ They are seeking to invalidate: # One-click online shopping (U.S. Patent No. 5,960,411.) # Online shopping carts (U.S. Patent No. 5,715,314.) # The hyperlink (U.S. Patent No. 4,873,662.) # Video streaming (U.S. Patent No. 5,132,992.) # Internationalizing domain names (U.S. Patent No. 6,182,148.) # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) # Paying with a credit card online (U.S. Patent No. 6,289,319.) # Framed browsing; (U.S. Patent Nos. 5,933,841 & 6,442,574.) and # Affiliate linking (U.S. Patent No. 6,029,141.)

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                            Andy Brummer
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                            # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.


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                            • A Andy Brummer

                              # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.


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                              andy brummer wrote: # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged. Agreed. Get rid of the other patents but keep these. The more expensive it is to use these the better. John Carson "I wish to propose for the reader's favourable consideration a doctrine which may, I fear, appear wildly paradoxical and subversive. The doctrine in question is this: that it is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for supposing it true." - Bertrand Russell

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                              • C Chris Losinger

                                that seems right. as soon as the troublesome GIF/LZW patent expires worldwide (July), a new one pops up to take its place. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                                peterchen
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                                exactly my thought - "at least we can add GIF support in june"....


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                                  Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:

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                                  peterchen
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                                  they used to makegoods to earn money, and provide services to outdo the competition. (or simply because a superior product made them proud) :cool: (we definitely need an "grandpa" smiley...)


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                                  • A Andy Brummer

                                    # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.


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                                    peterchen
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                                    IIRC this covers *any* popup window (like that "thanks for your vote" one on CP), not just automatic ones.


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                                    • L Larry Antram

                                      Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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                                      Franz Klein
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                                      I try and just use the png format. :) I am the handsome one in the crowd.

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                                      • L Larry Antram

                                        Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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                                        Joel Holdsworth
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                                        Oooh look forgent give out a phone number on their website - I think we should all phone them up and tell them how we feel! Joel Holdsworth

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                                        • A Allen Anderson

                                          next up for patents. 'company sues people who breathe, claim their patent for mole remover devices covers inhaling and exhaling'. I realize patents are to protect intellectual property, but frankly I'm becoming more of a mind that software and business practice patents in general should just be done away with completely. Any time someone creates something valuable these days, some little known company that never contributed anything to society comes up with some outrageous patent claims to try and hit the jackpot.

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                                          Joerg Wiedenmann
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                                          Copyright is to protect intellectual property. Patents are to protect Big companys and/or peoples/entities with lots of money for patent and lawyer fees. Software patents sucks. Patenting Software is like patenting a way to wear a t-shirt or a way to sit on a toilet. -

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