Sonork: Hot or Not?
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Hmmm, I have only tried it for a day or so, but I'm gonna vote for...... NOT! I don't like the UI, it's really bad designed. The default settings sucks. I don't like the UI. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. I use Windows Messenger almost daily, and it works great. It's simple and does what I want it to... What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. :confused: Did I mention that the Sonork UI is really really bad... (In the dialogs some buttons are flat and some are not, and all the captions and statics use bold text, urghhh...) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Hmmm, I have only tried it for a day or so, but I'm gonna vote for...... NOT! I don't like the UI, it's really bad designed. The default settings sucks. I don't like the UI. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. I use Windows Messenger almost daily, and it works great. It's simple and does what I want it to... What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. :confused: Did I mention that the Sonork UI is really really bad... (In the dialogs some buttons are flat and some are not, and all the captions and statics use bold text, urghhh...) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
The only reason I like it is because when I signed up they gave me a cool ID: 100.9999 Other than that, I don't have much use for it. Jon Sagara "After all is said and done, usually more is said than done." -- Unknown
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The only reason I like it is because when I signed up they gave me a cool ID: 100.9999 Other than that, I don't have much use for it. Jon Sagara "After all is said and done, usually more is said than done." -- Unknown
Hehehe, the best reason I have heard. ;-) I got 100.10006 - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Hmmm, I have only tried it for a day or so, but I'm gonna vote for...... NOT! I don't like the UI, it's really bad designed. The default settings sucks. I don't like the UI. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. I use Windows Messenger almost daily, and it works great. It's simple and does what I want it to... What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. :confused: Did I mention that the Sonork UI is really really bad... (In the dialogs some buttons are flat and some are not, and all the captions and statics use bold text, urghhh...) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I loved Sonork because: 1. The its GUI is better than MSN's and ICQ's GUI. It is clear! 2. It is really very very fast 3. It has some nice features like conferencing 4. It has a great feature: Visibility Groups, that control who sees your online status. :rolleyes: 5. You can also send files to offline users. 6. You can search messages by date, content, length, type,...etc. 7. Extensive drag & drop support! 8. I like bold text ;P Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan Sonork ID 100.9935 - zoltrix
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Hmmm, I have only tried it for a day or so, but I'm gonna vote for...... NOT! I don't like the UI, it's really bad designed. The default settings sucks. I don't like the UI. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. I use Windows Messenger almost daily, and it works great. It's simple and does what I want it to... What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. :confused: Did I mention that the Sonork UI is really really bad... (In the dialogs some buttons are flat and some are not, and all the captions and statics use bold text, urghhh...) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I agree that the UI is not the best I've ever seen, but the big advantage of using Sonork is that you can use it over your Intranet. As fas as I know, this is not possible with MSN. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com [100.9977:Dave] New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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Hmmm, I have only tried it for a day or so, but I'm gonna vote for...... NOT! I don't like the UI, it's really bad designed. The default settings sucks. I don't like the UI. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. I use Windows Messenger almost daily, and it works great. It's simple and does what I want it to... What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. :confused: Did I mention that the Sonork UI is really really bad... (In the dialogs some buttons are flat and some are not, and all the captions and statics use bold text, urghhh...) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I actually agree with you about the GUI issue. I again like bland 3d MFC GUI's the best. Each to there own I guess, A preference that gave you different GUIs, And I do mean GUIs would be cool! A button should look like a button I believe. The other feature I want is emoticons that are self designable either bitmaps or gifs. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. Sure their are many IMs Anders and eventually one will become the true market leader. I originally was a big PowWow fan, but it didn't eventuate into anything. What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. I learn of new features in sonork every time I use it! Until I have discovered all the features , I can't really comment on how hot it really is. Sonork doesn't seem to have a help system that I can find at all and that is a minor issue also. Whilst I do enjoy discovery learning, I'm also a big fan on the bold print concept of learning. Maybe I should petition sonork.com to incorporate online HTML help. who knows they might even listen. :-) All said and done I like it ! Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
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I loved Sonork because: 1. The its GUI is better than MSN's and ICQ's GUI. It is clear! 2. It is really very very fast 3. It has some nice features like conferencing 4. It has a great feature: Visibility Groups, that control who sees your online status. :rolleyes: 5. You can also send files to offline users. 6. You can search messages by date, content, length, type,...etc. 7. Extensive drag & drop support! 8. I like bold text ;P Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan Sonork ID 100.9935 - zoltrix
The its GUI is better than MSN's and ICQ's GUI. It is clear! Wow, you really mean that? I don't like ICQ's GUI either, but Messenger is way more simple/easy to use... I think the Sonork GUI is cluttered, and hard to find your way through... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I agree that the UI is not the best I've ever seen, but the big advantage of using Sonork is that you can use it over your Intranet. As fas as I know, this is not possible with MSN. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com [100.9977:Dave] New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
but the big advantage of using Sonork is that you can use it over your Intranet. As fas as I know, this is not possible with MSN. Guess again, if you have Exchange 2000 Server installed, you can set up a local Messenger Server. ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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but the big advantage of using Sonork is that you can use it over your Intranet. As fas as I know, this is not possible with MSN. Guess again, if you have Exchange 2000 Server installed, you can set up a local Messenger Server. ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
ARGHHH!! This was actually a reply to David's post... Well, this bug is seen before in the Lounge... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Hmmm, I have only tried it for a day or so, but I'm gonna vote for...... NOT! I don't like the UI, it's really bad designed. The default settings sucks. I don't like the UI. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. I use Windows Messenger almost daily, and it works great. It's simple and does what I want it to... What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. :confused: Did I mention that the Sonork UI is really really bad... (In the dialogs some buttons are flat and some are not, and all the captions and statics use bold text, urghhh...) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I'm preparing to write an interface to an IM module my company is adding to our unified messaging product. Any suggestions? "But, daddy, that was back in the hippie ages..." My twelve year old son - winning the argument. "Stan, you are an intelligent guy who responds in meaningful ways" Paul Watson 16/10/01
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The its GUI is better than MSN's and ICQ's GUI. It is clear! Wow, you really mean that? I don't like ICQ's GUI either, but Messenger is way more simple/easy to use... I think the Sonork GUI is cluttered, and hard to find your way through... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I do agree that the UI is inconsistent and has some weak points. I like the fact that Sonork uses the plain Windows UI. Skinned windows waste resources. I use programs for their functionality not because they are pretty. Also, I like its small size. Anything that stays loaded for the duration that I am logged in should not consume a large amount of memory and resources. Also, due to this, Sonork runs quickly. I haven't used it enough to make a final decision but I am happy with what I have seen so far.
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I'm preparing to write an interface to an IM module my company is adding to our unified messaging product. Any suggestions? "But, daddy, that was back in the hippie ages..." My twelve year old son - winning the argument. "Stan, you are an intelligent guy who responds in meaningful ways" Paul Watson 16/10/01
Keep it simple... Actually I like the .NET Messenger UI, it's clean and simple, and most users can use it without any help. :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I do agree that the UI is inconsistent and has some weak points. I like the fact that Sonork uses the plain Windows UI. Skinned windows waste resources. I use programs for their functionality not because they are pretty. Also, I like its small size. Anything that stays loaded for the duration that I am logged in should not consume a large amount of memory and resources. Also, due to this, Sonork runs quickly. I haven't used it enough to make a final decision but I am happy with what I have seen so far.
Also, I like its small size. Anything that stays loaded for the duration that I am logged in should not consume a large amount of memory and resources. Also, due to this, Sonork runs quickly. Right now I have both Sonork and Messenger running... Sonork uses 4.5 MB ram and 162 GDI Objects and 4 threads Messenger uses 2.8 MB ram and 119 GDI Objects and 19 threads (huh, a lot of threads :( ) (From Task Manager) Small size, hmmmm, maybe... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Also, I like its small size. Anything that stays loaded for the duration that I am logged in should not consume a large amount of memory and resources. Also, due to this, Sonork runs quickly. Right now I have both Sonork and Messenger running... Sonork uses 4.5 MB ram and 162 GDI Objects and 4 threads Messenger uses 2.8 MB ram and 119 GDI Objects and 19 threads (huh, a lot of threads :( ) (From Task Manager) Small size, hmmmm, maybe... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Strange, when I checked Task Manager Sonork only used 972KB during use. I didn't check the GDI objects. from my statistics mem usage: on load 2950KB window open 972KB (after using for a while) window minimized 328KB I haven't really used MSN so I can't compare the two.
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but the big advantage of using Sonork is that you can use it over your Intranet. As fas as I know, this is not possible with MSN. Guess again, if you have Exchange 2000 Server installed, you can set up a local Messenger Server. ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Okay then, let me rephrase that: The big advantage of using Sonork is that you can use it over your Intranet. As fas as I know, this is not possible for less than the cost of a small family house in Majorca. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com [100.9977:Dave] New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
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Okay then, let me rephrase that: The big advantage of using Sonork is that you can use it over your Intranet. As fas as I know, this is not possible for less than the cost of a small family house in Majorca. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com [100.9977:Dave] New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.
Err... You mean the price for Exchange 2000? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Keep it simple... Actually I like the .NET Messenger UI, it's clean and simple, and most users can use it without any help. :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Hrmm. i have to say it's been interesting reading the posts to this thread. one comment comes immediately to mind: "to each his own!" seriously, the critiques are noted, and most of the arguments i would have brought up (or will) have already been posted. first, sonork is _not_ intended to compete or work *just* like icq or msn or aim or...it's not really a public messenger: it's designed to work as an intranet/VPN app. in fact, the IM/file transfer/conferencing facilities are simply features built into the Sonork engine - Sonork is technically "a localization and data transfer engine". that said, we are primarily pushing it's IM incarnation for obvious reasons. about the gui - ur right, it's not full of bells and whistles and all the baggage that entails. you want to compare it to icq? then check the installer size, the installed storage space, and resource usage. also, is suspect that msn does a lot of what it does calling other applications/libraries/etc. in windows, so perhaps when u check memory used ur not getting the full story. the thing is, i use sonork every day - it's never crashed on me, and when other things are collapsing it tries it's darndest to keep itself up. the GUI is spartan, admittedly and intentionally, and mainly for the reasons just stated, but there is a LOT to it - many useful ways of doing things that u just need to get used to (which is not at all hard!). and if you *really* don't like the interface, but do like the concept, well, feel free to download the client source code and work some magic on it! try that with MSN or the others... admittedly help and documentation could be better, and we are working on that, however there is a lot of documentation and information available on the website, and i am pretty easy to find if you have a question (just keep it simple tho!). ;o) big points: privacy and security. ALL traffic is encrypted whether it be p2p messaging, conferencing, file transfer, etc. u wont get spam with sonork, especially in it's intended application (i guess that should be true of others, too but anyway...). seeing as our resources are rather limited, to say the least, what you're seeing is quite an accomplishment, and we are quite proud of what's been developed (migs is a coding wizard no matter HOW you cut it!) - and we have MUCH more planned for implementation when we can get to it. one thing is is very gratifying - the interest this community has shown - be it critical, supportive, or neutral. one thing you can be sure of i
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Also, I like its small size. Anything that stays loaded for the duration that I am logged in should not consume a large amount of memory and resources. Also, due to this, Sonork runs quickly. Right now I have both Sonork and Messenger running... Sonork uses 4.5 MB ram and 162 GDI Objects and 4 threads Messenger uses 2.8 MB ram and 119 GDI Objects and 19 threads (huh, a lot of threads :( ) (From Task Manager) Small size, hmmmm, maybe... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Are you kidding? Right now I have both Sonork and Messenger running. Here are the statistics from Task Manager: MSN Messenger: 7,332 KB Sonork: 1,100 K Kind regards Mustafa Demirhan Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix
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Hmmm, I have only tried it for a day or so, but I'm gonna vote for...... NOT! I don't like the UI, it's really bad designed. The default settings sucks. I don't like the UI. Why do the world need another IM system. There's already plenty. I use Windows Messenger almost daily, and it works great. It's simple and does what I want it to... What is it that all you people like so much about Sonork, I must say that I don't get it. :confused: Did I mention that the Sonork UI is really really bad... (In the dialogs some buttons are flat and some are not, and all the captions and statics use bold text, urghhh...) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I'm not realy into this IM stuff as I find it far too distracting, however I did use Trillian for a while and quite liked it. Anybody else used it and Sonork - if so how do they compare? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
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I'm not realy into this IM stuff as I find it far too distracting, however I did use Trillian for a while and quite liked it. Anybody else used it and Sonork - if so how do they compare? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
Is the Trillian IM source code available, Because to me the advantage of sonork, its open thus devloper friendly And I can add it as an ADD IN to my own applications IDE or GUI, I relly think that is why myself and other developers are so keen on Sonork. Imagine a group of developers working on a project and via a toolbar they can send screenshots, exchange Files, and clipboards, some might have differnet applications etc open but if each application is sonork enabled they can work as a team much easier. I think if you judge sonork as purely another IM you will find competitors galore, but if you judge it by whatyou can develop on your own applications tp utilize the Localization and Data Trans engine it falls into an entirly different cattegory of application Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin