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  • S srt7

    You are right...there's no point ranting about it. When I see inhuman things like "beheading of civilians" by terrorists it makes me angry. But when I see pictures like these and read of the inhuman tactics deployed by Americans it dissapoints me to a very great extent. Its like comparing crooks and good people...a crook is a crook and its not surprising if the crook behaves like one but it gets disgusting when good people act like crooks. Not to get too philosophical but everyone has to answer for their deeds ...coz someone up there is watching us. It really doesn't matter if its a prison guard or the Prez himself....everyone has to answer. Regards, SRT

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    srt7 wrote: everyone has to answer Bush has never answered for anything, and likely never will. everything that happens on his watch is someone else's fault: The Buck Stops There. he has no honor. Cleek / Software

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      srt7 wrote: everyone has to answer Bush has never answered for anything, and likely never will. everything that happens on his watch is someone else's fault: The Buck Stops There. he has no honor. Cleek / Software

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      While I do not disagree with your assessment - I'd point out that Clinton was equally "teflon-esque" and I'm not seeing many (any?) high-level politicians that aren't equally weaselish. Sadly I think it's now a trend. :sigh: "The White House is saying they still do not have a timetable for when the U.S. will be out of Iraq although they hinted that it might be early in the Kerry administration." David Letterman

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        While I do not disagree with your assessment - I'd point out that Clinton was equally "teflon-esque" and I'm not seeing many (any?) high-level politicians that aren't equally weaselish. Sadly I think it's now a trend. :sigh: "The White House is saying they still do not have a timetable for when the U.S. will be out of Iraq although they hinted that it might be early in the Kerry administration." David Letterman

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        Mike Mullikin wrote: Clinton you know, i actually had a sentence in that post that said:

        trolls: i don't care what any other president did.

        but, i deleted it. :) one of Bush's campaign ideas was that he was going to return "responsibility" and "honor" to the White House. well, he certainly didn't manage to do that. i now wonder if he kept any campaign promises. i can name a half-dozen that he's broken, but none that he's kept. but you're right, all politicians are slimy to some degree (it's the job, i guess). but, after listening to Gulianni yesterday and McCain over the last few weeks, it's clear to me that at least some of them would do The Right Thing instead of the Politically Beneficial Thing. either of them would get my vote - even though McCain is very^ conservative. Cleek / Software

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          Not Human safe. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/Investigation/abu_ghraib_photos_040519.html[^] I was going to rant here about who's right and who's wrong but to be honest I just don't get it. X| :(( pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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          Besides the obvious :(( X| :confused: comments, I have to wonder *why* would they take these photo's? For what reason? To look back on fondly in later life? X|


          Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
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            Besides the obvious :(( X| :confused: comments, I have to wonder *why* would they take these photo's? For what reason? To look back on fondly in later life? X|


            Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
            Meg's World - Blog Photography

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            Megan Forbes wrote: I have to wonder *why* would they take these photo's? For what reason? I wouldn't rule out creative "photoshopping". Seeing what I can do as a mere _novice_, I would never believe any photo in digital form. With photoshop, anything is possible, and I'd need to see film before I commit to an opinion. ~Nitron.


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              Mike Mullikin wrote: Clinton you know, i actually had a sentence in that post that said:

              trolls: i don't care what any other president did.

              but, i deleted it. :) one of Bush's campaign ideas was that he was going to return "responsibility" and "honor" to the White House. well, he certainly didn't manage to do that. i now wonder if he kept any campaign promises. i can name a half-dozen that he's broken, but none that he's kept. but you're right, all politicians are slimy to some degree (it's the job, i guess). but, after listening to Gulianni yesterday and McCain over the last few weeks, it's clear to me that at least some of them would do The Right Thing instead of the Politically Beneficial Thing. either of them would get my vote - even though McCain is very^ conservative. Cleek / Software

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              Chris Losinger wrote: trolls: i don't care what any other president did. ;) As you probably already understood, my point was not to justify GWB but rather to show the trend and display my cynicism of ALL politicians. Plus, any time I get the opportunity to slam WJC... I take it. ;P "The White House is saying they still do not have a timetable for when the U.S. will be out of Iraq although they hinted that it might be early in the Kerry administration." David Letterman

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                Mike Mullikin wrote: Clinton you know, i actually had a sentence in that post that said:

                trolls: i don't care what any other president did.

                but, i deleted it. :) one of Bush's campaign ideas was that he was going to return "responsibility" and "honor" to the White House. well, he certainly didn't manage to do that. i now wonder if he kept any campaign promises. i can name a half-dozen that he's broken, but none that he's kept. but you're right, all politicians are slimy to some degree (it's the job, i guess). but, after listening to Gulianni yesterday and McCain over the last few weeks, it's clear to me that at least some of them would do The Right Thing instead of the Politically Beneficial Thing. either of them would get my vote - even though McCain is very^ conservative. Cleek / Software

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                Here here. I'd vote for McCain in a heartbeat.


                Jeremy Kimball Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. (I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head)

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                  Here here. I'd vote for McCain in a heartbeat.


                  Jeremy Kimball Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. (I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head)

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                  Already did (Last primary). Wish he had been the candidate... wish he could be the candidate again. Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf

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                    Megan Forbes wrote: I have to wonder *why* would they take these photo's? For what reason? I wouldn't rule out creative "photoshopping". Seeing what I can do as a mere _novice_, I would never believe any photo in digital form. With photoshop, anything is possible, and I'd need to see film before I commit to an opinion. ~Nitron.


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                    why was that voted a 1? Maybe the 1-voter doesn't know what photoshop is... Here: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html[^] ~Nitron.


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                      Besides the obvious :(( X| :confused: comments, I have to wonder *why* would they take these photo's? For what reason? To look back on fondly in later life? X|


                      Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
                      Meg's World - Blog Photography

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                      ...a true example that the mind gets weird when the body has everything. Regards, SRT

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                        why was that voted a 1? Maybe the 1-voter doesn't know what photoshop is... Here: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html[^] ~Nitron.


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                        Photoshop is a very controversial application. i hear some muslim clerics have issued a fatwa for the developers who wrote it. some fundie christians call it a tool of satan. it's best not to mention it at all. Cleek / Software

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                          Not Human safe. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/Investigation/abu_ghraib_photos_040519.html[^] I was going to rant here about who's right and who's wrong but to be honest I just don't get it. X| :(( pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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                          peterchen
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                          I don't know... as sick as the pictures is having ads for student loans, "Honda rugged adventure" below them.


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                            Already did (Last primary). Wish he had been the candidate... wish he could be the candidate again. Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf

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                            I'd be curious to know how many other US CPians would vote for McCain? I know I would in a heartbeat if he ran right now. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned

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                              Megan Forbes wrote: I have to wonder *why* would they take these photo's? For what reason? I wouldn't rule out creative "photoshopping". Seeing what I can do as a mere _novice_, I would never believe any photo in digital form. With photoshop, anything is possible, and I'd need to see film before I commit to an opinion. ~Nitron.


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                              That's exactly my thought. In fact, some photos that have done the rounds have since been proven to be fakes. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                              • S srt7

                                You are right...there's no point ranting about it. When I see inhuman things like "beheading of civilians" by terrorists it makes me angry. But when I see pictures like these and read of the inhuman tactics deployed by Americans it dissapoints me to a very great extent. Its like comparing crooks and good people...a crook is a crook and its not surprising if the crook behaves like one but it gets disgusting when good people act like crooks. Not to get too philosophical but everyone has to answer for their deeds ...coz someone up there is watching us. It really doesn't matter if its a prison guard or the Prez himself....everyone has to answer. Regards, SRT

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                srt7 wrote: but it gets disgusting when good people act like crooks If they act like crooks, are they not crooks? I don't understand your logic. I think most people are good people given a sane environment. It's when the environment changes into something they cannot handle, you'll start to see crooked people. That's when the weak - the crooked - sway from common sense. -- Booohoo!

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                                  Not Human safe. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/Investigation/abu_ghraib_photos_040519.html[^] I was going to rant here about who's right and who's wrong but to be honest I just don't get it. X| :(( pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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                                  Sabrina is cute!


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                                    Sabrina is cute!


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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    "Boys boys boys, I'm looking for a good time!"-Sabrina? -- Booohoo!

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                                      Mike Mullikin wrote: Clinton you know, i actually had a sentence in that post that said:

                                      trolls: i don't care what any other president did.

                                      but, i deleted it. :) one of Bush's campaign ideas was that he was going to return "responsibility" and "honor" to the White House. well, he certainly didn't manage to do that. i now wonder if he kept any campaign promises. i can name a half-dozen that he's broken, but none that he's kept. but you're right, all politicians are slimy to some degree (it's the job, i guess). but, after listening to Gulianni yesterday and McCain over the last few weeks, it's clear to me that at least some of them would do The Right Thing instead of the Politically Beneficial Thing. either of them would get my vote - even though McCain is very^ conservative. Cleek / Software

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                                      Don Nickles is almost conservative enough for me ... :-D "In the final analysis, secularism is little more than another religion the first amendment should be protecting the American people against."

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                                        "Boys boys boys, I'm looking for a good time!"-Sabrina? -- Booohoo!

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                                          Kluci, kluci, kluci Kluci, kluci, kluci Kluci, kluci, kluci Kluci, kluci, kluci Slunce zapadá Tak přijít do města. Osvoboď své tělo Obejmi mě pevně Moje lásko dnešní noci. Řekni mi, že mi věříš. Všichni, letní lásky. Vzpomete se na mě. Všichni, letní lásky. Buď můj milenec, buď můj miláček. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Připravte se na mou lásku. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Jsem připravená na Tvou lásku. Zůstaň tady. Slunce zapadá. Miláčku, cítím se skvěle. Ber tu šanci milostnou romanci nějakou zábavu dnes večer. Všichni, letní lásky. Vzpomete se na mě. Všichni, letní lásky. Buď můj milenec, buď můj miláček. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Připravte se na mou lásku. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Jsem připravená na Tvou lásku. Kluci a dívky v letní lásce Letní láska na pláži dnes v noci. Řekni ano, řekni, řekni mi, řekni co. Všichni jezdí autem. Nezastaví, nehýbou se. Vezmu si Tvé prima tělo. Říkám ano, říkam Ti, říkám sobě, říkám, že mi dáš své príma tělo. Kluci, kluci, kluci V letní lásce V letní lásce Kluci, kluci, kluci Už se kutálí letní čas. Už se kutálí letní čas. Kluci, kluci, kluci V letní lásce V letní lásce Kluci, kluci, kluci Už se kutálí letní čas. Už se kutálí letní čas. Všichni, letní lásky. Vzpomete se na mě. Všichni, letní lásky. Buď můj milenec, buď můj miláček. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Připravte se na mou lásku. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Jsem připravená na Tvou lásku. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Připravte se na mou lásku. Kluci, kluci, kluci Nastávají mi dobré časy. Kluci, kluci, kluci Jsem připravená na Tvou lásku.


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                                          What is that? Czech? :confused: -- Booohoo!

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