AT&T Webhosting rip-off
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So, does anyone know of a way to use ASP and Java (for server side apps) on a web-host that doesn't "support" it directly, in particular I'm feeling rather ripped off considering I have AT&T as my web-host, only to find they only support "perl" and C (compiled for solaris). The really pathetic part is that clearly AT&Ts own website uses ASP, considering they don't support that for customers they host for it's abit of a slap in the face. Anyone have any clues (other than change host) ? -Thanks :((
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So, does anyone know of a way to use ASP and Java (for server side apps) on a web-host that doesn't "support" it directly, in particular I'm feeling rather ripped off considering I have AT&T as my web-host, only to find they only support "perl" and C (compiled for solaris). The really pathetic part is that clearly AT&Ts own website uses ASP, considering they don't support that for customers they host for it's abit of a slap in the face. Anyone have any clues (other than change host) ? -Thanks :((
Sounds like you're on a *nix machine. If you want to use ASP, you'll either have to ask them to install ChiliSoft, or some other ASP interpreter, or choose a host that supports ASP. ReadyHosting.com offers a LOT of features for the amount that they charge. Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera
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So, does anyone know of a way to use ASP and Java (for server side apps) on a web-host that doesn't "support" it directly, in particular I'm feeling rather ripped off considering I have AT&T as my web-host, only to find they only support "perl" and C (compiled for solaris). The really pathetic part is that clearly AT&Ts own website uses ASP, considering they don't support that for customers they host for it's abit of a slap in the face. Anyone have any clues (other than change host) ? -Thanks :((
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More customer ignorance than ripoff. You shouldn't have signed up with them without checking to see what services they provided first. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
nah, I disagree, I think it's a fair assumption that the "webhost" will be able to provide the kind of services they actually use on their own website.. anyway, personally I signed up for my webhost well before I knew what services I actually needed, and now find they don't provide what I really need. However, I do find them VERY reliable, so a work-around rather than completely changing hosts would be a preferable solution. (http://www.chilisoft.net was an outstanding suggestion if AT&T could be convinced to install it on a per-customer basis).
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nah, I disagree, I think it's a fair assumption that the "webhost" will be able to provide the kind of services they actually use on their own website.. anyway, personally I signed up for my webhost well before I knew what services I actually needed, and now find they don't provide what I really need. However, I do find them VERY reliable, so a work-around rather than completely changing hosts would be a preferable solution. (http://www.chilisoft.net was an outstanding suggestion if AT&T could be convinced to install it on a per-customer basis).
GameCode2 wrote: nah, I disagree, I think it's a fair assumption that the "webhost" will be able to provide the kind of services they actually use on their own website.. Running a corporate website and providing web hosting to thousands of people are two completely different things. With the corporate website, they are going to use whatever specialized tools are necessary in order to make their site work best for their business. Likewise, when providing web hosting services, they are going to go with their perceived lowest common denominator (Perl and C in this case) in order to save money. Historically, it has been cheaper and easier to provide mass-hosting on *nix boxes. They know that webmasters who are looking for hard core functionality (or ASP) will either host their own sites, pay more to have the advanced services they are looking for, or go elsewhere. That being said, I'm not familiar with the way AT&T runs their hosting business. If they allow per-customer customizations, then you're a lucky man, but I wouldn't count on it. Please let me know if they do, though. Good luck! Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera
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nah, I disagree, I think it's a fair assumption that the "webhost" will be able to provide the kind of services they actually use on their own website.. anyway, personally I signed up for my webhost well before I knew what services I actually needed, and now find they don't provide what I really need. However, I do find them VERY reliable, so a work-around rather than completely changing hosts would be a preferable solution. (http://www.chilisoft.net was an outstanding suggestion if AT&T could be convinced to install it on a per-customer basis).
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So, does anyone know of a way to use ASP and Java (for server side apps) on a web-host that doesn't "support" it directly, in particular I'm feeling rather ripped off considering I have AT&T as my web-host, only to find they only support "perl" and C (compiled for solaris). The really pathetic part is that clearly AT&Ts own website uses ASP, considering they don't support that for customers they host for it's abit of a slap in the face. Anyone have any clues (other than change host) ? -Thanks :((
- If you're running a personal website, why do you even need ASP or Java? 2) You should have read their list of provided services before signing up. 3) If I was a domain host, I sure as hell wouldn't let my customers have free reign as far as executables go. Most users are morons with no concept of security or properly writtem code. 4) Java is crap anyway. 5) They do ASP on their own site because they probably have a guy (or two) to do their ASP and Java stuff for them. There's a certain amount of implicit trust there sincet they hired those guys to do their web site. 6) It's their football. 7) Run your own web server if you don't like the news you're getting here. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
