New MS source code repository app
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is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? I'm in the works of buying a third-party app that suppliments SourceSafe (SourceOffSite) and if MS comes out with a new VSS, then I may need to rethink this purchase. Thanks.
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is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? I'm in the works of buying a third-party app that suppliments SourceSafe (SourceOffSite) and if MS comes out with a new VSS, then I may need to rethink this purchase. Thanks.
john john mackey wrote: is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? MS is going to support VSS and create a VSS 2005, but they are creating another version-control product (which, in the long term, might replace VSS). Microsoft is updating the version control technology of Visual SourceSafe. A new product release with a continued focus on version control, Visual SourceSafe 2005, will update and improve this popular system. For individual developers or small teams who need a lightweight, client-only, file server application for source code control only, Microsoft will continue to enhance and support Visual SourceSafe. We will ship Visual SourceSafe 2005, which will include enhancements such as remote web access over HTTP, LAN performance booster, Unicode and XML support, and regional time zones and languages. In addition to this new release of Visual SourceSafe, Microsoft has also announced the Visual Studio Team Foundation suite of software configuration management and enterprise software development life-cycle technologies. This new suite was created to assist teams in managing sophisticated processes and comprehensive relational project metadata tracking. The suite includes work item tracking, build management, project management, and cross-system reporting. Also as a part of this suite, Microsoft has developed a new source control system from the ground up to integrate deeply and seamlessly with the rest of the Team Foundation suite, as well as integrate deeply with Active Directory user permissions, SQL Server security, and Windows SharePoint Services. The upcoming release of Visual SourceSafe, arriving in 2005, will continue to be well-suited for individual developers and small teams. Some teams, however, that require a broader set of software development life-cycle tools or software configuration management tools may wish to consider the Visual Studio Team Foundation system as an alternative. Microsoft Visual SourceSafe Roadmap[^] ( I recently checked out Subversion and Tortoise SVN it works really well. I was a little fuzzy on how to get it setup, but once I got past that step, it was really easy and intuitive. )
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is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? I'm in the works of buying a third-party app that suppliments SourceSafe (SourceOffSite) and if MS comes out with a new VSS, then I may need to rethink this purchase. Thanks.
I think it is part of the new Visual Studio 2005 Team System[^] Michael CP Blog [^]
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john john mackey wrote: is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? MS is going to support VSS and create a VSS 2005, but they are creating another version-control product (which, in the long term, might replace VSS). Microsoft is updating the version control technology of Visual SourceSafe. A new product release with a continued focus on version control, Visual SourceSafe 2005, will update and improve this popular system. For individual developers or small teams who need a lightweight, client-only, file server application for source code control only, Microsoft will continue to enhance and support Visual SourceSafe. We will ship Visual SourceSafe 2005, which will include enhancements such as remote web access over HTTP, LAN performance booster, Unicode and XML support, and regional time zones and languages. In addition to this new release of Visual SourceSafe, Microsoft has also announced the Visual Studio Team Foundation suite of software configuration management and enterprise software development life-cycle technologies. This new suite was created to assist teams in managing sophisticated processes and comprehensive relational project metadata tracking. The suite includes work item tracking, build management, project management, and cross-system reporting. Also as a part of this suite, Microsoft has developed a new source control system from the ground up to integrate deeply and seamlessly with the rest of the Team Foundation suite, as well as integrate deeply with Active Directory user permissions, SQL Server security, and Windows SharePoint Services. The upcoming release of Visual SourceSafe, arriving in 2005, will continue to be well-suited for individual developers and small teams. Some teams, however, that require a broader set of software development life-cycle tools or software configuration management tools may wish to consider the Visual Studio Team Foundation system as an alternative. Microsoft Visual SourceSafe Roadmap[^] ( I recently checked out Subversion and Tortoise SVN it works really well. I was a little fuzzy on how to get it setup, but once I got past that step, it was really easy and intuitive. )
Brit wrote: I recently checked out Subversion and Tortoise SVN it works really well. I was a little fuzzy on how to get it setup, but once I got past that step, it was really easy and intuitive. Do you know if there is a GUI frontend like WinCVS for it? Tortoise just isn't "enough" for me. I want to be able to browse branches, sort files on modification status, etc. I might switch over from CVS to Subversion once it gets mature enough. -- Booohoo!
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is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? I'm in the works of buying a third-party app that suppliments SourceSafe (SourceOffSite) and if MS comes out with a new VSS, then I may need to rethink this purchase. Thanks.
We've been thinking about investing in SourceGear Vault here. Not sure if it's in the budget though :((
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is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? I'm in the works of buying a third-party app that suppliments SourceSafe (SourceOffSite) and if MS comes out with a new VSS, then I may need to rethink this purchase. Thanks.
Basically, MS is planning to add SourceOffSite features to VSS for the 2005 version. However, I reckon there's enough bad-path in VSS to simply throw it away. I don't count any product that says 'run our repair tool nightly' in the Best Practice guide as reliable. Look at Vault rather than SourceOffSite, if you want a product from SourceGear. The new pitch is that VSS is for teams of less than 5 people. For SourceGear's take on VS Team System, at least the Version Control part of it (Hatteras), see Eric Sink's blog: http://software.ericsink.com/20040524.html#10169[^]. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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Brit wrote: I recently checked out Subversion and Tortoise SVN it works really well. I was a little fuzzy on how to get it setup, but once I got past that step, it was really easy and intuitive. Do you know if there is a GUI frontend like WinCVS for it? Tortoise just isn't "enough" for me. I want to be able to browse branches, sort files on modification status, etc. I might switch over from CVS to Subversion once it gets mature enough. -- Booohoo!
There is RapidSVN. It's still young and pretty basic but it's a start. http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/[^] steve
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is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? I'm in the works of buying a third-party app that suppliments SourceSafe (SourceOffSite) and if MS comes out with a new VSS, then I may need to rethink this purchase. Thanks.
The interesting fact here is the new source control system which replaces (are going to replace,doesnt matter) VSS is going to be managed by the same guy who developed VSS, I think the name of the company which developed VSS was some One Source or One Tree something...which MS took over as usual :-)
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We've been thinking about investing in SourceGear Vault here. Not sure if it's in the budget though :((
Avery Moore wrote: We've been thinking about investing in SourceGear Vault here. Not sure if it's in the budget though Squeeze that budget tight - it's worth it :-)
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We've been thinking about investing in SourceGear Vault here. Not sure if it's in the budget though :((
Well, CVS is on everyone's budget. :-D Due to technical difficulties my previous signature, "I see dumb people" will be off until further notice. Too many people were thinking I was talking about them... :sigh:
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The interesting fact here is the new source control system which replaces (are going to replace,doesnt matter) VSS is going to be managed by the same guy who developed VSS, I think the name of the company which developed VSS was some One Source or One Tree something...which MS took over as usual :-)
These are all good insight/opinions, thanks. What I like about SourceOffSite is the ease in which I can connect to my VSS database over the Net. It is much faster than using straight VSS to access through my firewall. I have found VSS to be handy in command-line mode when I need to retrieve info based upon two different release dates/versions - I can run custom scripts to compile release info somewhat painlessly.
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is there any truth or more input on the rumor of Microsoft updating or replacing their Visual SourceSafe application? I'm in the works of buying a third-party app that suppliments SourceSafe (SourceOffSite) and if MS comes out with a new VSS, then I may need to rethink this purchase. Thanks.
Check out Korby Parnell's[^] blog, he works on the VSS team. --Mike-- Personal stuff:: Ericahist | Homepage Shareware stuff:: 1ClickPicGrabber | RightClick-Encrypt CP stuff:: CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ ---- Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? I think so Brain, but if we shaved our heads, we'd look like weasels!