I am so lost. Learning VC++.NET
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OK, I seem to have contracted the most severe case of nubyism in my attempt to finnally learn to program windows. About a month ago I bought myself VC++.Net thinking i could whip up a quick and simple interface for my Robot. I've been at it since then and still have no clue. I've done tute after tute, though most are for VC++6 and don't seem to translate well to .NET. I've borrowed the only windows programming book in the Uni library "Beginnning Visual C++ 6" and while all this is good and has taught me alot, I still seem to be missing some fundamental concetuality. I've been able to program C++ for years so this is not the problem. But to explain my problem I'll walk through and example. I've used the App wizard to generate a Dialog Based MFC App. I drop a scroll bar on the Dialog I look to add a new event and bang! I hit a brick wall- repeatedly what the hell is with NM_THEMECHANGED?????:confused: It's the only event i can get. How do i do anything at all with my scrollbar???? Ragman
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OK, I seem to have contracted the most severe case of nubyism in my attempt to finnally learn to program windows. About a month ago I bought myself VC++.Net thinking i could whip up a quick and simple interface for my Robot. I've been at it since then and still have no clue. I've done tute after tute, though most are for VC++6 and don't seem to translate well to .NET. I've borrowed the only windows programming book in the Uni library "Beginnning Visual C++ 6" and while all this is good and has taught me alot, I still seem to be missing some fundamental concetuality. I've been able to program C++ for years so this is not the problem. But to explain my problem I'll walk through and example. I've used the App wizard to generate a Dialog Based MFC App. I drop a scroll bar on the Dialog I look to add a new event and bang! I hit a brick wall- repeatedly what the hell is with NM_THEMECHANGED?????:confused: It's the only event i can get. How do i do anything at all with my scrollbar???? Ragman
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OK, I seem to have contracted the most severe case of nubyism in my attempt to finnally learn to program windows. About a month ago I bought myself VC++.Net thinking i could whip up a quick and simple interface for my Robot. I've been at it since then and still have no clue. I've done tute after tute, though most are for VC++6 and don't seem to translate well to .NET. I've borrowed the only windows programming book in the Uni library "Beginnning Visual C++ 6" and while all this is good and has taught me alot, I still seem to be missing some fundamental concetuality. I've been able to program C++ for years so this is not the problem. But to explain my problem I'll walk through and example. I've used the App wizard to generate a Dialog Based MFC App. I drop a scroll bar on the Dialog I look to add a new event and bang! I hit a brick wall- repeatedly what the hell is with NM_THEMECHANGED?????:confused: It's the only event i can get. How do i do anything at all with my scrollbar???? Ragman
Programming in general is not an easy think. You can not just put a program with so many buttons and options and exept to programming by it self. You don't only need one borow book, but all the books on the market. You also need MSDN, and SDK, and many simple examples. You also need time and a good teacher And you must be young have the time and the wish to learn From the other hand maybe you don't really need to make any big program, but even in this case you still need some one to teach you some thinks. Programming is not like eg photoshop, that even if you don't know it you can open a file, make a blur save it, and say that somthing you do. >simple interface for my Robot Ask some one to teach you the basic and work with you for that interface, and then you see if you can handle to do somthing simple and continue it. Vini
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OK, I seem to have contracted the most severe case of nubyism in my attempt to finnally learn to program windows. About a month ago I bought myself VC++.Net thinking i could whip up a quick and simple interface for my Robot. I've been at it since then and still have no clue. I've done tute after tute, though most are for VC++6 and don't seem to translate well to .NET. I've borrowed the only windows programming book in the Uni library "Beginnning Visual C++ 6" and while all this is good and has taught me alot, I still seem to be missing some fundamental concetuality. I've been able to program C++ for years so this is not the problem. But to explain my problem I'll walk through and example. I've used the App wizard to generate a Dialog Based MFC App. I drop a scroll bar on the Dialog I look to add a new event and bang! I hit a brick wall- repeatedly what the hell is with NM_THEMECHANGED?????:confused: It's the only event i can get. How do i do anything at all with my scrollbar???? Ragman
Actully... VC++ is real programming.. if anybody understand..then s/he will get into into it..if not then forget to use VC++.. VC++ demand real skill of patience.. if you have that..then try & try again.. as you try you will learn something new... better use VC++6 first.. follow any book.. main thing need is hard-word..to learn...not as in VB. slowly slowly you feel that you r getting in depth of vc++.. but that can't happen in one day or one month..it'll take time.. min. 3-4 month to get in vc++.. so try.. Best of Luck... Bye...;) ---Sumit Kapoor---
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Yeah, it's certainly on my wishlist but seems to be out of print and secondhand ones run upto twice the origional new price. There are some second hand ones at Amazon but when i tried to order one found out they wouldn't ship out of the US. A prefered book is "Programming with Microsoft Visual C++.NET, Sith Edition" though it is even more elusive which suprises me as it's far more recent. Darryl
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Actully... VC++ is real programming.. if anybody understand..then s/he will get into into it..if not then forget to use VC++.. VC++ demand real skill of patience.. if you have that..then try & try again.. as you try you will learn something new... better use VC++6 first.. follow any book.. main thing need is hard-word..to learn...not as in VB. slowly slowly you feel that you r getting in depth of vc++.. but that can't happen in one day or one month..it'll take time.. min. 3-4 month to get in vc++.. so try.. Best of Luck... Bye...;) ---Sumit Kapoor---
Thanx for the encouragement. It's nice to know that i'm not the only one that had to bash my head for so long. the time estimate realy helped..one month down 3 to go.:) However there seems to be something unique about the ScrollBar control in that it has no Event handlers to add where the other controls have a whole mess of them with I can use quite easily. I'll put that question in a new thread though. Thanx Darryl
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Thanx for the encouragement. It's nice to know that i'm not the only one that had to bash my head for so long. the time estimate realy helped..one month down 3 to go.:) However there seems to be something unique about the ScrollBar control in that it has no Event handlers to add where the other controls have a whole mess of them with I can use quite easily. I'll put that question in a new thread though. Thanx Darryl
hi..I think you may be start working in MFC of vc++.. that's easy to use(as this wrapper to actual windows programming).. One my suggeation is to spend just 10 days with windows programming..Go to library & take a thin book on windows programming...then you u'll get idea How all thinges are working in windows.. In small term it is not matter of know/not know about windows programming concepts.. but if you realy want to see this programming as long term then just overview of that is must. Rest fine..e-mail me anytime if you need any help..I'm not expert, so may not answer all of your Questions..but I'll try if I get time(Time is busy going on...) OK! Bye..Best of Luck..keep working..Goal is near.. sumit_kapoor1980@hotmail.com ---Sumit Kapoor---
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hi..I think you may be start working in MFC of vc++.. that's easy to use(as this wrapper to actual windows programming).. One my suggeation is to spend just 10 days with windows programming..Go to library & take a thin book on windows programming...then you u'll get idea How all thinges are working in windows.. In small term it is not matter of know/not know about windows programming concepts.. but if you realy want to see this programming as long term then just overview of that is must. Rest fine..e-mail me anytime if you need any help..I'm not expert, so may not answer all of your Questions..but I'll try if I get time(Time is busy going on...) OK! Bye..Best of Luck..keep working..Goal is near.. sumit_kapoor1980@hotmail.com ---Sumit Kapoor---
Hi Sumit, I've got a toe hold on it now and think the worst of it is over as far as conceptualisation goes. I managed to write the user side of the interface i wanted once i was told how to use scrollbars properly. Still peeved that they don't have any event handlers as i need up to 12 scroll bars on the one dialog and then have to hack into their control ID's from Wnd::HScroll and then work out which one i've got. Be much nicer if they just had a dedicated OnScroll handler. Anyway, my stress levels from the last month have just dispated into the ethers ready to snag then next person attempting to learn Windows programming :-D Darryl