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    Adam Durity
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    Hopefully there are some graphics people who are CPians...I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays, but now I need to calibrate their colors so that they not only match each other, but also so that they match realistic colors so I can accurately edit photos (I'm a hobby photographer...an expensive hobby i must say). Anyways, does anyone out there have any tips, hints, tools, or techniques they use in order to get the most accurate color calibration for their monitors? Thanks, -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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      Hopefully there are some graphics people who are CPians...I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays, but now I need to calibrate their colors so that they not only match each other, but also so that they match realistic colors so I can accurately edit photos (I'm a hobby photographer...an expensive hobby i must say). Anyways, does anyone out there have any tips, hints, tools, or techniques they use in order to get the most accurate color calibration for their monitors? Thanks, -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      If the drivers for your video card and/or monitor do not support it, then you can always get third party software for it. If you’re really serious about Photography, then Photoshop comes with color calibration software. If it’s not running already, look in the control panel for it. And, if you’re really, really serious about Photography you should be on a Mac. :) Jeremy Falcon

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        Hopefully there are some graphics people who are CPians...I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays, but now I need to calibrate their colors so that they not only match each other, but also so that they match realistic colors so I can accurately edit photos (I'm a hobby photographer...an expensive hobby i must say). Anyways, does anyone out there have any tips, hints, tools, or techniques they use in order to get the most accurate color calibration for their monitors? Thanks, -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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        Glenn Dawson
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        I believe the SpyderPro with OptiCAL software allows you to correct multiple monitors to match each other. There are other hardware based calibration tools available.

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          Hopefully there are some graphics people who are CPians...I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays, but now I need to calibrate their colors so that they not only match each other, but also so that they match realistic colors so I can accurately edit photos (I'm a hobby photographer...an expensive hobby i must say). Anyways, does anyone out there have any tips, hints, tools, or techniques they use in order to get the most accurate color calibration for their monitors? Thanks, -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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          surgeproof
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          i seem to remember someone telling me that there is a free site or tutorial that'll help you to do this, don't know where though... :| and btw, does anyone know how to match a screen's colors to the printers? i have a nice good quality printer but hard as i try the colors still come out differently... if you find anything, please tell. ;) ------------------------------------------------------- ithium is the best. 'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.' --Albert Einstein 'The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service.' --Albert Einstein

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            Hopefully there are some graphics people who are CPians...I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays, but now I need to calibrate their colors so that they not only match each other, but also so that they match realistic colors so I can accurately edit photos (I'm a hobby photographer...an expensive hobby i must say). Anyways, does anyone out there have any tips, hints, tools, or techniques they use in order to get the most accurate color calibration for their monitors? Thanks, -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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            Roger Wright
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            There's a quick and dirty site for this - Calibration[^]. Thanks to Paul Watson for reminding me...:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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              Hopefully there are some graphics people who are CPians...I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays, but now I need to calibrate their colors so that they not only match each other, but also so that they match realistic colors so I can accurately edit photos (I'm a hobby photographer...an expensive hobby i must say). Anyways, does anyone out there have any tips, hints, tools, or techniques they use in order to get the most accurate color calibration for their monitors? Thanks, -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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              Megan Forbes
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              Adam Durity wrote: I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays Must be 19" flat panel day today - my boss pulled one out of a box this morning and plonked it on my desk :cool: Sorry I can't really help with calibration (although the temptation to buy a Spyder is growing), but don't forget to add your photo link to your bio :)


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              Meg's World - Blog Photography

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                There's a quick and dirty site for this - Calibration[^]. Thanks to Paul Watson for reminding me...:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                That site stole the picture of the lady from Photoshop's calibration wizard. :| Jeremy Falcon

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                  That site stole the picture of the lady from Photoshop's calibration wizard. :| Jeremy Falcon

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                  True, but they did quite properly attribute to its source. I doubt that Adobe will mind the free advertising on a site that is likely to be visited by many potential customers. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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                    i seem to remember someone telling me that there is a free site or tutorial that'll help you to do this, don't know where though... :| and btw, does anyone know how to match a screen's colors to the printers? i have a nice good quality printer but hard as i try the colors still come out differently... if you find anything, please tell. ;) ------------------------------------------------------- ithium is the best. 'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.' --Albert Einstein 'The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service.' --Albert Einstein

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                    surgeproof wrote: and btw, does anyone know how to match a screen's colors to the printers? i have a nice good quality printer but hard as i try the colors still come out differently... You can't (at least not completely). Monitors emit light, printed material reflects light. Two completely different things are happening and the range of colours (gamut) they are capable of reproducing are quite different. If you use a high end graphics package (like photoshop), you can convert your images to CMYK which will force the RGB colour information into the CMYK colour space your printer uses. At least then you'll see on your screen something that is closer to what you will see printed. Some graphics packages will allow you to print a colour target that you can scan back into the software for callibration - this helps a bit. Good luck! Drew.

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                      True, but they did quite properly attribute to its source. I doubt that Adobe will mind the free advertising on a site that is likely to be visited by many potential customers. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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                      Roger Wright wrote: True, but they did quite properly attribute to its source. Where? I didn't see it. Even if they did, they didn't make it obvious. Roger Wright wrote: I doubt that Adobe will mind the free advertising on a site that is likely to be visited by many potential customers. What if the image is copyrighted? What if the guy didn't ask permission? Also, do you feel an urge to go out and buy Photoshop now because of that page? I mean really, how much business are we talking about here from using a online color calibration tool? Jeremy Falcon

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                        Roger Wright wrote: True, but they did quite properly attribute to its source. Where? I didn't see it. Even if they did, they didn't make it obvious. Roger Wright wrote: I doubt that Adobe will mind the free advertising on a site that is likely to be visited by many potential customers. What if the image is copyrighted? What if the guy didn't ask permission? Also, do you feel an urge to go out and buy Photoshop now because of that page? I mean really, how much business are we talking about here from using a online color calibration tool? Jeremy Falcon

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                        Jeremy Falcon wrote: Where? I didn't see it. Even if they did, they didn't make it obvious. The caption under the graphic reads "Adobe color test image". "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                          Jeremy Falcon wrote: Where? I didn't see it. Even if they did, they didn't make it obvious. The caption under the graphic reads "Adobe color test image". "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                          Maybe I'm blind as a bat. :laugh: But, if they didn't ask permission to use the pic, wouldn't that be breaking copyright law? Jeremy Falcon

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                            Maybe I'm blind as a bat. :laugh: But, if they didn't ask permission to use the pic, wouldn't that be breaking copyright law? Jeremy Falcon

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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote: But, if they didn't ask permission to use the pic, wouldn't that be breaking copyright law? Only if the pic was copyrighted in the first place. Also, why do you assume they do not have permission? :confused: "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote: But, if they didn't ask permission to use the pic, wouldn't that be breaking copyright law? Only if the pic was copyrighted in the first place. Also, why do you assume they do not have permission? :confused: "President Bush has promised he's going to establish elections in Iraq, he's going to rebuild the infrastructure and he's going to create jobs. And he said if it works there, he'll try it here." David Letterman

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                              Mike Mullikin wrote: Only if the pic was copyrighted in the first place. But, every original work of art, etc. is automatically covered by copyright law - you don't have to register it with the govt. All you need to do is prove you're the orginator to have it hold up in court. Mike Mullikin wrote: Also, why do you assume they do not have permission? Well, I don't know for sure if they have permission or not; however, most of the images I've seen that required permission from a 3rd party have plainly stated they've acquired permission in one form or another. I guess my peeve is when people take/use something without giving real credit (like a link or a mention of the program he ganked it from would be nice). I mean, how many CPians would've known the image was from Photoshop's color calibration utility from that site alone? Jeremy Falcon

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                                surgeproof wrote: and btw, does anyone know how to match a screen's colors to the printers? i have a nice good quality printer but hard as i try the colors still come out differently... You can't (at least not completely). Monitors emit light, printed material reflects light. Two completely different things are happening and the range of colours (gamut) they are capable of reproducing are quite different. If you use a high end graphics package (like photoshop), you can convert your images to CMYK which will force the RGB colour information into the CMYK colour space your printer uses. At least then you'll see on your screen something that is closer to what you will see printed. Some graphics packages will allow you to print a colour target that you can scan back into the software for callibration - this helps a bit. Good luck! Drew.

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                                thanks :) ------------------------------------------------------- ithium is the best. 'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.' --Albert Einstein 'The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service.' --Albert Einstein

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                                  Mike Mullikin wrote: Only if the pic was copyrighted in the first place. But, every original work of art, etc. is automatically covered by copyright law - you don't have to register it with the govt. All you need to do is prove you're the orginator to have it hold up in court. Mike Mullikin wrote: Also, why do you assume they do not have permission? Well, I don't know for sure if they have permission or not; however, most of the images I've seen that required permission from a 3rd party have plainly stated they've acquired permission in one form or another. I guess my peeve is when people take/use something without giving real credit (like a link or a mention of the program he ganked it from would be nice). I mean, how many CPians would've known the image was from Photoshop's color calibration utility from that site alone? Jeremy Falcon

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                                  from the look of all this a lot! :P ------------------------------------------------------- ithium is the best. 'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.' --Albert Einstein 'The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service.' --Albert Einstein

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                                    If the drivers for your video card and/or monitor do not support it, then you can always get third party software for it. If you’re really serious about Photography, then Photoshop comes with color calibration software. If it’s not running already, look in the control panel for it. And, if you’re really, really serious about Photography you should be on a Mac. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                    Jeremy Falcon wrote: And, if you’re really, really serious about Photography you should be on a Mac. I don't buy that. Today there is little or no difference between Macs and PCs hardware wise. And Photoshop exists for both. Is it the one button mouse that does the trick? ;) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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                                      If the drivers for your video card and/or monitor do not support it, then you can always get third party software for it. If you’re really serious about Photography, then Photoshop comes with color calibration software. If it’s not running already, look in the control panel for it. And, if you’re really, really serious about Photography you should be on a Mac. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                                      I am really really serious about photography, but i'm also really really serious about computers...and a Mac just doesn't cut it for me. Though I will give Mac's credit where credit is due, they are great for photo editing (minus the one button mouse), video editing, audio editing, and testing future microsoft "innovations." :-D -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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                                        Adam Durity wrote: I just got two beautiful 19" flat panel displays Must be 19" flat panel day today - my boss pulled one out of a box this morning and plonked it on my desk :cool: Sorry I can't really help with calibration (although the temptation to buy a Spyder is growing), but don't forget to add your photo link to your bio :)


                                        Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
                                        Meg's World - Blog Photography

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                                        Man, I had to pay for mine! ;) I'll be sure to add that link soon. -- Adam "If you can't beat your computer in chess, try kickboxing"

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                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote: And, if you’re really, really serious about Photography you should be on a Mac. I don't buy that. Today there is little or no difference between Macs and PCs hardware wise. And Photoshop exists for both. Is it the one button mouse that does the trick? ;) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter

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                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Today there is little or no difference between Macs and PCs hardware wise. When talking CPUs, there is. When talking HDDs, etc. there isn't. But, the Mac OS has always been built from the ground up with color correction in mind, that's one reason hardcore graphic artists adopted it early on. Jeremy Falcon

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