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    Roger Allen
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    Recently I have seen an odd trend. All new articles posted through the editors always get a vote on them almost immediately (like in the first 3 views of it). And the vote is always (or has been when I have seen it) 4. Is this the editors voting on the article? Or should they leave it upto to those who are using the article? (thats assuming the editors are not actually using the article source etc). Comments? Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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      Recently I have seen an odd trend. All new articles posted through the editors always get a vote on them almost immediately (like in the first 3 views of it). And the vote is always (or has been when I have seen it) 4. Is this the editors voting on the article? Or should they leave it upto to those who are using the article? (thats assuming the editors are not actually using the article source etc). Comments? Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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      Colin Angus Mackay
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      I don't have a problem with editors voting on articles. I've voted on articles that I've read but not used, however I usually bookmark it for later because it is something I will likely use in the future. And sometimes I vote on an article when it makes me think in a different way about something. Of course, there are also the unfortunates where the article is so dire I vote on too. But if the article is so-so where it is okay, but could do better I'll leave a comment and if it improves I'll vote on it - if not I'll leave it alone.


      "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog

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        I don't have a problem with editors voting on articles. I've voted on articles that I've read but not used, however I usually bookmark it for later because it is something I will likely use in the future. And sometimes I vote on an article when it makes me think in a different way about something. Of course, there are also the unfortunates where the article is so dire I vote on too. But if the article is so-so where it is okay, but could do better I'll leave a comment and if it improves I'll vote on it - if not I'll leave it alone.


        "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog

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        Roger Allen
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        I don't see a problem with the editors voting. Its just if I or other people vote, I would expect to see a comment go along with it. Why give it a 4, with no comment? Does the editor know how the article could have been improved etc? I want to see reasons here, not just a vote. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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          I don't see a problem with the editors voting. Its just if I or other people vote, I would expect to see a comment go along with it. Why give it a 4, with no comment? Does the editor know how the article could have been improved etc? I want to see reasons here, not just a vote. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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          Dominik Reichl
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          Does the editor know how the article could have been improved etc? I want to see reasons here, not just a vote. I can just second that. I also would always like to see a small comment. Nothing is more annoying than getting voted down and you don't know why. Dominik


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          • R Roger Allen

            Recently I have seen an odd trend. All new articles posted through the editors always get a vote on them almost immediately (like in the first 3 views of it). And the vote is always (or has been when I have seen it) 4. Is this the editors voting on the article? Or should they leave it upto to those who are using the article? (thats assuming the editors are not actually using the article source etc). Comments? Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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            brianwelsch
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            Could it be something to keep it out of purgatory for having a rating of zero? BW The Biggest Loser


            "People look so snooty, take pills make them moody
            Automatic bazootie, zero to tutti frutti"
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              I don't see a problem with the editors voting. Its just if I or other people vote, I would expect to see a comment go along with it. Why give it a 4, with no comment? Does the editor know how the article could have been improved etc? I want to see reasons here, not just a vote. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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              Chris Maunder
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              Roger Allen wrote: Why give it a 4, with no comment? Why vote anything and not comment? An editor is in as good a position to vote on an article as anyone. cheers, Chris Maunder Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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                Does the editor know how the article could have been improved etc? I want to see reasons here, not just a vote. I can just second that. I also would always like to see a small comment. Nothing is more annoying than getting voted down and you don't know why. Dominik


                _outp(0x64, 0xAD); and __asm mov al, 0xAD __asm out 0x64, al do the same... but what do they do?? ;) (doesn't work on NT)

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                Vladimir Ralev
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                Agreed! It also makes sense to have a little bar next to the rating to show the votes distribution - how many one, twos, threes ... and so on. It would help to determine - are you having a big problem or a problem with only part of the users. Some Microsoft articles are displaying such stats. Vote for me!

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                  Could it be something to keep it out of purgatory for having a rating of zero? BW The Biggest Loser


                  "People look so snooty, take pills make them moody
                  Automatic bazootie, zero to tutti frutti"
                  -Hollywood Freaks

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                  I think you've nailed it ! :) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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                  • R Roger Allen

                    Recently I have seen an odd trend. All new articles posted through the editors always get a vote on them almost immediately (like in the first 3 views of it). And the vote is always (or has been when I have seen it) 4. Is this the editors voting on the article? Or should they leave it upto to those who are using the article? (thats assuming the editors are not actually using the article source etc). Comments? Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Hey Roger I vote on *all* articles that I edit. Considering that I have gone through the entire article, I don't see why I shouldn't vote on it. 3 and 4 are my most common ratings. Obviously I won't ever have to gove a 1 or a 2 to an edited article because I won't edit an article if I feel it is worth a 1 or a 2. Rarely I do give 5s too, usually when the article is something unique. As for not posting comments, maybe I should be posting "well done"s and "good work"s when I vote. But at my bandwidth, making a post and refreshing the entire page is another 4-5 minutes gone, when I could be working on the next article. Nish


                    Now with my own blog - void Nish(char* szBlog); My MVP tips, tricks and essays web site - www.voidnish.com

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                      Hey Roger I vote on *all* articles that I edit. Considering that I have gone through the entire article, I don't see why I shouldn't vote on it. 3 and 4 are my most common ratings. Obviously I won't ever have to gove a 1 or a 2 to an edited article because I won't edit an article if I feel it is worth a 1 or a 2. Rarely I do give 5s too, usually when the article is something unique. As for not posting comments, maybe I should be posting "well done"s and "good work"s when I vote. But at my bandwidth, making a post and refreshing the entire page is another 4-5 minutes gone, when I could be working on the next article. Nish


                      Now with my own blog - void Nish(char* szBlog); My MVP tips, tricks and essays web site - www.voidnish.com

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                      Andy Brummer
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                      Sounds like you need a little stand alone C# application that downloads the articles to edit, lets you rate and comment them and uploads them all in the background. It would probably take a day or so to write, but it might save you a lot of agravation.


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                        Hey Roger I vote on *all* articles that I edit. Considering that I have gone through the entire article, I don't see why I shouldn't vote on it. 3 and 4 are my most common ratings. Obviously I won't ever have to gove a 1 or a 2 to an edited article because I won't edit an article if I feel it is worth a 1 or a 2. Rarely I do give 5s too, usually when the article is something unique. As for not posting comments, maybe I should be posting "well done"s and "good work"s when I vote. But at my bandwidth, making a post and refreshing the entire page is another 4-5 minutes gone, when I could be working on the next article. Nish


                        Now with my own blog - void Nish(char* szBlog); My MVP tips, tricks and essays web site - www.voidnish.com

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                        David Wulff
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                        I don't envy you for having to download the files for my last article update. Thanks Nish. :)


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                          I don't see a problem with the editors voting. Its just if I or other people vote, I would expect to see a comment go along with it. Why give it a 4, with no comment? Does the editor know how the article could have been improved etc? I want to see reasons here, not just a vote. Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                          Roger Allen wrote: I would expect to see a comment go along with it. Why give it a 4, with no comment? I would be happy with a 4 and no comment. Or a 5 and no comment. At least that is telling me I've done well. I agree with you that I am disappointed that a person would vote 3, 2 or :eek: 1 for one of my articles and not at least tell me why. I am always open to suggestions for improvements and if I've missed something I will get around to updating the article. Maybe I should put something at the bottom of the article inviting comments, privately if desired.


                          "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog

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                            Sounds like you need a little stand alone C# application that downloads the articles to edit, lets you rate and comment them and uploads them all in the background. It would probably take a day or so to write, but it might save you a lot of agravation.


                            The architect has placed his bets, but the odds are long -Poster Children

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                            Heath Stewart
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                            How would that help? Bandwidth is bandwidth. While that may automate submissions to several forms at once (using threads, of course), bandwidth will suffer because he's pushing more through the pipe.

                            Microsoft MVP, Visual C# My Articles

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                              Recently I have seen an odd trend. All new articles posted through the editors always get a vote on them almost immediately (like in the first 3 views of it). And the vote is always (or has been when I have seen it) 4. Is this the editors voting on the article? Or should they leave it upto to those who are using the article? (thats assuming the editors are not actually using the article source etc). Comments? Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?

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                              GISnet
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                              I have a comment. Who cares? Why take votes so seriously as if there is some conspiracy? And I agree with the purgetory theory... although that would be solved by only allowing articles with several votes to be sent there.... Microsoft .NET - Come on! I need the Traffic!

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                                Roger Allen wrote: Why give it a 4, with no comment? Why vote anything and not comment? An editor is in as good a position to vote on an article as anyone. cheers, Chris Maunder Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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                                Erik Thompson
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                                I'd have to agree. They took the time to read the aritcle. make sure the grammer is right and that it makes sense to someone else reading it. They also examine the files and images to make sure that everything is there and that it's not missing parts. If I read it while putting it together for everyone else to read and I have an opinion on it's value to the site, why can't I vote on it? Now if I was the author, I wouldn't vote on my own article. Cheers, -Erik

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                                  I don't envy you for having to download the files for my last article update. Thanks Nish. :)


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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  David Wulff wrote: I don't envy you for having to download the files for my last article update. Thanks Nish. :-) I intentionally chose a time of day (around mid-noon) when my bandwidth would be maximum, to upload your article. And luckily the zip didn't time out and the upload was successful on the first attempt itself. By the way thanks for sending in perfectly formatted HTML. Nish


                                  Now with my own blog - void Nish(char* szBlog); My MVP tips, tricks and essays web site - www.voidnish.com

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                                    I have a comment. Who cares? Why take votes so seriously as if there is some conspiracy? And I agree with the purgetory theory... although that would be solved by only allowing articles with several votes to be sent there.... Microsoft .NET - Come on! I need the Traffic!

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                                    Corinna John
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                                    GISnet wrote: I have a comment. Who cares? The author cares. By voting 1,2,3 you say "hi there, the article could be better". But how can the author know what to change, if you don't tell him? vote for me (with comments), coco

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