Moving to Arizona
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Well, im finally sick of it. Living in the northeast US for 25 years and can no longer take the weather. Cold 9 months of the year keeping you indoors, when i am an outdoors person. Not to mention sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day just to go home and stay inside the remainder of the day is getting old. The last straw has come due to the last 3 summers having 1 nice day followed by 20 or so dark, rainy muggy humid lame weather days. I'm thinking about phoenix, mesa, scottsdale areas. Anyone out there have any thoughts. Getting married in a couple of months and have a 5 year old so this is the last realistic chance to make an easy move and transition. I want to go somewhere where i can actually use the pool that takes even more time to take care of. Unless you really hate being outside, don't move to MA, or CT!!!
nlecren wrote: The last straw has come due to the last 3 summers having 1 nice day followed by 20 or so dark, rainy muggy humid lame weather days. Nah, you youngins don't know what humidity is. ;P Give Southeast Louisiana a whirl during the summer and you'll see a whole new perspective on the matter. On a serious note though, I don't know about Arizona personally, but a friend of mine vacationed there before and he said it was hot and dry. I guess as with any climate you could used to it though. Of course, he lives in Louisiana - where humidity is a way of life. So, that may have affected his view on things. [edit] On a good note though about the South, during winter it rarely gets cold and snow is even more rare. On the chance we have a cold spell, it'll be over with in a couple of days tops. [/edit] Jeremy Falcon
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Well, im finally sick of it. Living in the northeast US for 25 years and can no longer take the weather. Cold 9 months of the year keeping you indoors, when i am an outdoors person. Not to mention sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day just to go home and stay inside the remainder of the day is getting old. The last straw has come due to the last 3 summers having 1 nice day followed by 20 or so dark, rainy muggy humid lame weather days. I'm thinking about phoenix, mesa, scottsdale areas. Anyone out there have any thoughts. Getting married in a couple of months and have a 5 year old so this is the last realistic chance to make an easy move and transition. I want to go somewhere where i can actually use the pool that takes even more time to take care of. Unless you really hate being outside, don't move to MA, or CT!!!
I spent part of last summer in Pheonix. Arizona is the other extreme to what you're experiencing now. Its really REALLY hot. You might want to pick some middle ground .. not too hot .. not too cold :) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"
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I spent part of last summer in Pheonix. Arizona is the other extreme to what you're experiencing now. Its really REALLY hot. You might want to pick some middle ground .. not too hot .. not too cold :) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"
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Err .. Ahem How about Utah :-O The winters , I'll admit are just as harsh but you can count on four months of sunshine in summer atleast. "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"
oooops sorry i was meaning middle ground in terms of mild climate all year round ... utah sure isnt that ... when i was there in winter it was freezing a** cold ... then when i was back there in summer it was so hot i could have shot myself but its a butiful place one that id definitely like to live if certain religious folks didnt rule the state :suss:
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Well, im finally sick of it. Living in the northeast US for 25 years and can no longer take the weather. Cold 9 months of the year keeping you indoors, when i am an outdoors person. Not to mention sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day just to go home and stay inside the remainder of the day is getting old. The last straw has come due to the last 3 summers having 1 nice day followed by 20 or so dark, rainy muggy humid lame weather days. I'm thinking about phoenix, mesa, scottsdale areas. Anyone out there have any thoughts. Getting married in a couple of months and have a 5 year old so this is the last realistic chance to make an easy move and transition. I want to go somewhere where i can actually use the pool that takes even more time to take care of. Unless you really hate being outside, don't move to MA, or CT!!!
Well my experience with Phoenix is that you will still spend 8-9 months of the year indoors - in Air Conditioning :). Natives claim its "dry heat" and not as bad as it seems but 110 is 110 is HOT. For a varied selection of weather move to Texas. We can have freezing weather on a Monday and be in the low 80's on a Tuesday. It can, and has, rained, snowed, hailed, sleeted, and got into the 80's ON THE SAME DAY. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein
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oooops sorry i was meaning middle ground in terms of mild climate all year round ... utah sure isnt that ... when i was there in winter it was freezing a** cold ... then when i was back there in summer it was so hot i could have shot myself but its a butiful place one that id definitely like to live if certain religious folks didnt rule the state :suss:
l a u r e n wrote: mild climate all year round I think there's better of chance of finding that in some coastal town towards the south. l a u r e n wrote: butiful place sure is. l a u r e n wrote: certain religious folks didnt rule the state :-D "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"
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Well my experience with Phoenix is that you will still spend 8-9 months of the year indoors - in Air Conditioning :). Natives claim its "dry heat" and not as bad as it seems but 110 is 110 is HOT. For a varied selection of weather move to Texas. We can have freezing weather on a Monday and be in the low 80's on a Tuesday. It can, and has, rained, snowed, hailed, sleeted, and got into the 80's ON THE SAME DAY. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein
What about nights, here after work going outside just to relax is impossible with temps below 30. If its 110 during the day and 80 at night that would be great. Not to mention sitting in a pool versus shivering to death all night while paying boatloads of cash for heat. What about bugs, ive heard some bad things about spiders, snakes etc.. Is the whole area infested or just some parts. Ive been to phoenix and mesa a few times when it was 115 but it just didn't bother me as much as -10 for 2 weeks straight. Thanks for all the replies
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Well my experience with Phoenix is that you will still spend 8-9 months of the year indoors - in Air Conditioning :). Natives claim its "dry heat" and not as bad as it seems but 110 is 110 is HOT. For a varied selection of weather move to Texas. We can have freezing weather on a Monday and be in the low 80's on a Tuesday. It can, and has, rained, snowed, hailed, sleeted, and got into the 80's ON THE SAME DAY. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein
Richard Stringer wrote: you will still spend 8-9 months of the year indoors - in Air Conditioning Uh huh. The other three months of the year you have to listen to people complaining about how cold it is (temps in the mid 50's, go figure). Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++
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What about nights, here after work going outside just to relax is impossible with temps below 30. If its 110 during the day and 80 at night that would be great. Not to mention sitting in a pool versus shivering to death all night while paying boatloads of cash for heat. What about bugs, ive heard some bad things about spiders, snakes etc.. Is the whole area infested or just some parts. Ive been to phoenix and mesa a few times when it was 115 but it just didn't bother me as much as -10 for 2 weeks straight. Thanks for all the replies
nlecren wrote: What about bugs The only creatures silly enough to live here are humans :) Seriously, I haven't encountered any in the year and a half I've been here (Scottsdale). Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++
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I spent part of last summer in Pheonix. Arizona is the other extreme to what you're experiencing now. Its really REALLY hot. You might want to pick some middle ground .. not too hot .. not too cold :) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"
How about San Diego? I've been there three or four times, and the climate is great! Cool days in summer, and not so cold in winter. -- LuisR ___________ Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
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Well my experience with Phoenix is that you will still spend 8-9 months of the year indoors - in Air Conditioning :). Natives claim its "dry heat" and not as bad as it seems but 110 is 110 is HOT. For a varied selection of weather move to Texas. We can have freezing weather on a Monday and be in the low 80's on a Tuesday. It can, and has, rained, snowed, hailed, sleeted, and got into the 80's ON THE SAME DAY. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein
Richard Stringer wrote: Natives claim its "dry heat" and not as bad as it seems but 110 is 110 is HOT Quit complaining. 110ºF == 43ºC which is a perfectly acceptable temperature if it is a dry heat. I remember standing in a bus stop on the Carretera de Barcelona (N-II) in Madrid in 43ºC heat and it was wonderful. And the lunches on the terrazas. And the best bit was José the waiter in the Restaurante de las Naciones who'd point out all the pretty girls and when he wasn't doing that he'd be messing up the order because he'd watching the pretty girls instead of taking the order.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog
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Richard Stringer wrote: Natives claim its "dry heat" and not as bad as it seems but 110 is 110 is HOT Quit complaining. 110ºF == 43ºC which is a perfectly acceptable temperature if it is a dry heat. I remember standing in a bus stop on the Carretera de Barcelona (N-II) in Madrid in 43ºC heat and it was wonderful. And the lunches on the terrazas. And the best bit was José the waiter in the Restaurante de las Naciones who'd point out all the pretty girls and when he wasn't doing that he'd be messing up the order because he'd watching the pretty girls instead of taking the order.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Quit complaining. 110ºF == 43ºC which is a perfectly acceptable temperature if it is a dry heat. Bring your happy butt on down and spend an hour or so in that "dry heat" and you also will be dry -parched - powdered. Every year there are a number of deaths caused by the heat in that part of the US - mainly illegals ( who are generally used to the heat ) crossing desert areas to avoid detection. Copious use of hydrating liquids is advised along with AC. Richard "He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. --Albert Einstein
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Richard Stringer wrote: Natives claim its "dry heat" and not as bad as it seems but 110 is 110 is HOT Quit complaining. 110ºF == 43ºC which is a perfectly acceptable temperature if it is a dry heat. I remember standing in a bus stop on the Carretera de Barcelona (N-II) in Madrid in 43ºC heat and it was wonderful. And the lunches on the terrazas. And the best bit was José the waiter in the Restaurante de las Naciones who'd point out all the pretty girls and when he wasn't doing that he'd be messing up the order because he'd watching the pretty girls instead of taking the order.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog
I've been here when the daytime temperature hovered for weeks around 130 - 135 °F. Wet or dry, it's hot! A few people every year die of it, and the news never reports the true temperature. The "official" thermometer is located in shade, far away from buildings and asphalt where people live, and underreports the true temperature by as much as 15 degrees. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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nlecren wrote: What about bugs The only creatures silly enough to live here are humans :) Seriously, I haven't encountered any in the year and a half I've been here (Scottsdale). Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++
:laugh::laugh: You really should get out more often, Rob. Outside of the downtown area there is no shortage of deadly fauna. Rattlesnakes and scorpions abound, as do black widow and brown recluse spiders. Oh, and don't forget African bees - we got those, too!:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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How about San Diego? I've been there three or four times, and the climate is great! Cool days in summer, and not so cold in winter. -- LuisR ___________ Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
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oooops sorry i was meaning middle ground in terms of mild climate all year round ... utah sure isnt that ... when i was there in winter it was freezing a** cold ... then when i was back there in summer it was so hot i could have shot myself but its a butiful place one that id definitely like to live if certain religious folks didnt rule the state :suss:
"if certain religious folks didnt rule the state" but then who would we make fun off????? btw - i agree it is a beautiful place.
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Well, im finally sick of it. Living in the northeast US for 25 years and can no longer take the weather. Cold 9 months of the year keeping you indoors, when i am an outdoors person. Not to mention sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day just to go home and stay inside the remainder of the day is getting old. The last straw has come due to the last 3 summers having 1 nice day followed by 20 or so dark, rainy muggy humid lame weather days. I'm thinking about phoenix, mesa, scottsdale areas. Anyone out there have any thoughts. Getting married in a couple of months and have a 5 year old so this is the last realistic chance to make an easy move and transition. I want to go somewhere where i can actually use the pool that takes even more time to take care of. Unless you really hate being outside, don't move to MA, or CT!!!
Do you know why they don't change the timezone in Arizona? So you don't have to go to bed in 110 degree heat! Give it an hour more, and it's down to at least a cool, tolerable 100. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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Well, im finally sick of it. Living in the northeast US for 25 years and can no longer take the weather. Cold 9 months of the year keeping you indoors, when i am an outdoors person. Not to mention sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day just to go home and stay inside the remainder of the day is getting old. The last straw has come due to the last 3 summers having 1 nice day followed by 20 or so dark, rainy muggy humid lame weather days. I'm thinking about phoenix, mesa, scottsdale areas. Anyone out there have any thoughts. Getting married in a couple of months and have a 5 year old so this is the last realistic chance to make an easy move and transition. I want to go somewhere where i can actually use the pool that takes even more time to take care of. Unless you really hate being outside, don't move to MA, or CT!!!
Surprised no one recommended Atlanta yet. It doesn't get over 90 all that much and hasn't hit 100 in the six years that I've lived here. You're close to the mountains, 5 hours from the gulf coast, 3.5 hours from the Atlantic. Can vacation in Florida pretty cheaply. The winters are fairly mild and you get all four seasons. (They close the city at the threat of snow). You're also a reasonable flight away from visiting friends and family back in the northeast. Personally, I'd like to move a little farther south because I don't like it cold at all. If I'm not in shorts, I'm usually not happy. I tell folks that it's simple a bool in my brain ... if (shivering) { bAmPissedOff = true; }. But a lot of folks that live here love the fact that they get changing leaves, crisp days, early spring and moderate, but fairly long summers (we keep our pool open 6 months out of the year). If I had the choice to do it again, I'd probably pick Tampa or farther south, but I get a lot of strange looks from folks who have lived in Florida and loved it for awhile, but felt the same way about the heat and humidity that you (and me) feel about the cold and snow. Give me one more medicated peaceful moment
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Err .. Ahem How about Utah :-O The winters , I'll admit are just as harsh but you can count on four months of sunshine in summer atleast. "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"
I'll concur with Utah. I grew up on the US east coast and have lived in Northern and Souther California, Arizona (both Phoenix and Tucson) and even in South America. Northern California comes the closest for perfect weather, but the real estate prices and traffic are insane. I've lived in Utah now for thirteen years. (And a few years in the early 80s.) It can be too cold for me in the winter and too hot in August, but overall, I love it here. (The fall season is especially marvelous.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke