Another Upgrade Update
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After reading the manual I discovered the motherboard in question[^] only supported Athlon XP 2000+ and above. Unfortunately I was trying to make it work with an Athlon XP 1800+. The board didn't even reach POST so I thought the CPU was to blame. (I got this board as I had SD-RAM lying around I could use and couldn't afford to purchase DDR RAM) So I went out and purchased an Athlon XP 2400+ and gave it a go. This led to no success either, so I pulled the board out of the case to see if it was shorting on the case or something. Same result so I decided to look at the back of the board to check a sneaking suspicion I started to have a couple of nights ago. When putting the board in the case I noticed a screw hole near the ZIF socket. It seemed to correspond with a hole in the case for a post. I put the post in and then found the hole didn't quite line up. Also I was then told never to use that hole anyway. So what did I find.....I had managed to break off one of the small knobs that seems to be at the end of a chip on the front of the board. So I have stuffed this board and now not only have to purchase another board but DDR RAM as well. So my questions are - Which board would you buy? The Gigabyte[^] or the Asus[^] Although the Front Side Bus is 333MHz, can I but DDR-400 RAM with no side effects? What is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to in the future? It mentions an Athlon at 2.25GHz but'I've no idea if this is a 2800+, 3000+ or something altogether different. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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After reading the manual I discovered the motherboard in question[^] only supported Athlon XP 2000+ and above. Unfortunately I was trying to make it work with an Athlon XP 1800+. The board didn't even reach POST so I thought the CPU was to blame. (I got this board as I had SD-RAM lying around I could use and couldn't afford to purchase DDR RAM) So I went out and purchased an Athlon XP 2400+ and gave it a go. This led to no success either, so I pulled the board out of the case to see if it was shorting on the case or something. Same result so I decided to look at the back of the board to check a sneaking suspicion I started to have a couple of nights ago. When putting the board in the case I noticed a screw hole near the ZIF socket. It seemed to correspond with a hole in the case for a post. I put the post in and then found the hole didn't quite line up. Also I was then told never to use that hole anyway. So what did I find.....I had managed to break off one of the small knobs that seems to be at the end of a chip on the front of the board. So I have stuffed this board and now not only have to purchase another board but DDR RAM as well. So my questions are - Which board would you buy? The Gigabyte[^] or the Asus[^] Although the Front Side Bus is 333MHz, can I but DDR-400 RAM with no side effects? What is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to in the future? It mentions an Athlon at 2.25GHz but'I've no idea if this is a 2800+, 3000+ or something altogether different. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
My personal choice would be ASUS. Though both Gigabyte and Asus are great manufacturers. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
I'm coloured, yet clear.
I'm fuity and sweet.
I'm jelly, what am I? - David Williams (Little Britain) -
After reading the manual I discovered the motherboard in question[^] only supported Athlon XP 2000+ and above. Unfortunately I was trying to make it work with an Athlon XP 1800+. The board didn't even reach POST so I thought the CPU was to blame. (I got this board as I had SD-RAM lying around I could use and couldn't afford to purchase DDR RAM) So I went out and purchased an Athlon XP 2400+ and gave it a go. This led to no success either, so I pulled the board out of the case to see if it was shorting on the case or something. Same result so I decided to look at the back of the board to check a sneaking suspicion I started to have a couple of nights ago. When putting the board in the case I noticed a screw hole near the ZIF socket. It seemed to correspond with a hole in the case for a post. I put the post in and then found the hole didn't quite line up. Also I was then told never to use that hole anyway. So what did I find.....I had managed to break off one of the small knobs that seems to be at the end of a chip on the front of the board. So I have stuffed this board and now not only have to purchase another board but DDR RAM as well. So my questions are - Which board would you buy? The Gigabyte[^] or the Asus[^] Although the Front Side Bus is 333MHz, can I but DDR-400 RAM with no side effects? What is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to in the future? It mentions an Athlon at 2.25GHz but'I've no idea if this is a 2800+, 3000+ or something altogether different. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
I used to work in a computer store when I was in college. If I stated the one lesson I learned the most solidly it would be: DO NOT skimp on a motherboard. Spend the money, get the better one with more options, and make sure it's ALWAYS an ASUS. I realize that there are other boards. I've also had luck with Soyo Dragon boards and even (strangely enough) with EpoX boards. However, time and time again, the most reliable board is an ASUS. Gigabytes have good options and better price, but the general quality is unreliable. I have an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe and it is the best purchase I've made. A good motherboard will hold your (MY) piece of crap computer together for a little longer :) Brian "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
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I used to work in a computer store when I was in college. If I stated the one lesson I learned the most solidly it would be: DO NOT skimp on a motherboard. Spend the money, get the better one with more options, and make sure it's ALWAYS an ASUS. I realize that there are other boards. I've also had luck with Soyo Dragon boards and even (strangely enough) with EpoX boards. However, time and time again, the most reliable board is an ASUS. Gigabytes have good options and better price, but the general quality is unreliable. I have an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe and it is the best purchase I've made. A good motherboard will hold your (MY) piece of crap computer together for a little longer :) Brian "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
BrianEllis wrote: but the general quality is unreliable I'm finding the opposite, I have a GA-7VKMLS and it works well. It doesn't have all the bells and whisles that hte ASUS has on it. Also I prefer AMD over Intel, 1 intel is expensive compaired to AMD 2. AMD is better with video. -Steven Hicks
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After reading the manual I discovered the motherboard in question[^] only supported Athlon XP 2000+ and above. Unfortunately I was trying to make it work with an Athlon XP 1800+. The board didn't even reach POST so I thought the CPU was to blame. (I got this board as I had SD-RAM lying around I could use and couldn't afford to purchase DDR RAM) So I went out and purchased an Athlon XP 2400+ and gave it a go. This led to no success either, so I pulled the board out of the case to see if it was shorting on the case or something. Same result so I decided to look at the back of the board to check a sneaking suspicion I started to have a couple of nights ago. When putting the board in the case I noticed a screw hole near the ZIF socket. It seemed to correspond with a hole in the case for a post. I put the post in and then found the hole didn't quite line up. Also I was then told never to use that hole anyway. So what did I find.....I had managed to break off one of the small knobs that seems to be at the end of a chip on the front of the board. So I have stuffed this board and now not only have to purchase another board but DDR RAM as well. So my questions are - Which board would you buy? The Gigabyte[^] or the Asus[^] Although the Front Side Bus is 333MHz, can I but DDR-400 RAM with no side effects? What is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to in the future? It mentions an Athlon at 2.25GHz but'I've no idea if this is a 2800+, 3000+ or something altogether different. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
I have used ASUS and MSI happily over the years. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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After reading the manual I discovered the motherboard in question[^] only supported Athlon XP 2000+ and above. Unfortunately I was trying to make it work with an Athlon XP 1800+. The board didn't even reach POST so I thought the CPU was to blame. (I got this board as I had SD-RAM lying around I could use and couldn't afford to purchase DDR RAM) So I went out and purchased an Athlon XP 2400+ and gave it a go. This led to no success either, so I pulled the board out of the case to see if it was shorting on the case or something. Same result so I decided to look at the back of the board to check a sneaking suspicion I started to have a couple of nights ago. When putting the board in the case I noticed a screw hole near the ZIF socket. It seemed to correspond with a hole in the case for a post. I put the post in and then found the hole didn't quite line up. Also I was then told never to use that hole anyway. So what did I find.....I had managed to break off one of the small knobs that seems to be at the end of a chip on the front of the board. So I have stuffed this board and now not only have to purchase another board but DDR RAM as well. So my questions are - Which board would you buy? The Gigabyte[^] or the Asus[^] Although the Front Side Bus is 333MHz, can I but DDR-400 RAM with no side effects? What is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to in the future? It mentions an Athlon at 2.25GHz but'I've no idea if this is a 2800+, 3000+ or something altogether different. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
EBay all the stuff you're left with and just buy a Shuttle XPC - much neater and much easier to build right, first-time. Just add an HDD, CPU and RAM. You don't even need the video card on some models! Shuttle XPC[^] No I don't work for them! ;) "Oh, I'm sick of doing Japanese stuff! In jail we had to be in this dumb kabuki play about the 47 Ronin, and I wanted to be Oshi, but they made me Ori!"
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After reading the manual I discovered the motherboard in question[^] only supported Athlon XP 2000+ and above. Unfortunately I was trying to make it work with an Athlon XP 1800+. The board didn't even reach POST so I thought the CPU was to blame. (I got this board as I had SD-RAM lying around I could use and couldn't afford to purchase DDR RAM) So I went out and purchased an Athlon XP 2400+ and gave it a go. This led to no success either, so I pulled the board out of the case to see if it was shorting on the case or something. Same result so I decided to look at the back of the board to check a sneaking suspicion I started to have a couple of nights ago. When putting the board in the case I noticed a screw hole near the ZIF socket. It seemed to correspond with a hole in the case for a post. I put the post in and then found the hole didn't quite line up. Also I was then told never to use that hole anyway. So what did I find.....I had managed to break off one of the small knobs that seems to be at the end of a chip on the front of the board. So I have stuffed this board and now not only have to purchase another board but DDR RAM as well. So my questions are - Which board would you buy? The Gigabyte[^] or the Asus[^] Although the Front Side Bus is 333MHz, can I but DDR-400 RAM with no side effects? What is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to in the future? It mentions an Athlon at 2.25GHz but'I've no idea if this is a 2800+, 3000+ or something altogether different. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
As for the motherboard see if you can find people who have used the same source you intend to use. I see many recommend the ASUS and you will likely be happy with it. For the record I will not buy any more for awhile having had 3 ASUS A7N8X (from 2 vendors) die with just a few days service last winter. I have only put together one gigabyte system so that is not enough to comment on, it did run fine. Three of my systems now (mine, my test box, my daughters school machine) are all ASROCK K7S8XE+ but that is no promise you will not get a bad batch from them also. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that can think of.
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After reading the manual I discovered the motherboard in question[^] only supported Athlon XP 2000+ and above. Unfortunately I was trying to make it work with an Athlon XP 1800+. The board didn't even reach POST so I thought the CPU was to blame. (I got this board as I had SD-RAM lying around I could use and couldn't afford to purchase DDR RAM) So I went out and purchased an Athlon XP 2400+ and gave it a go. This led to no success either, so I pulled the board out of the case to see if it was shorting on the case or something. Same result so I decided to look at the back of the board to check a sneaking suspicion I started to have a couple of nights ago. When putting the board in the case I noticed a screw hole near the ZIF socket. It seemed to correspond with a hole in the case for a post. I put the post in and then found the hole didn't quite line up. Also I was then told never to use that hole anyway. So what did I find.....I had managed to break off one of the small knobs that seems to be at the end of a chip on the front of the board. So I have stuffed this board and now not only have to purchase another board but DDR RAM as well. So my questions are - Which board would you buy? The Gigabyte[^] or the Asus[^] Although the Front Side Bus is 333MHz, can I but DDR-400 RAM with no side effects? What is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to in the future? It mentions an Athlon at 2.25GHz but'I've no idea if this is a 2800+, 3000+ or something altogether different. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
I'd enter a search for each board in Technet and see which one returns the most problem reports.;) I've never used either brand; having always had great luck with SuperMicro, I use nothing else. My first such system - circa 1995 - was a Pentium Pro 180 MHz and it's still humming along in the next room, working perfectly. It takes forever to boot, compared to my latest assembly, but it's never even needed a new CMOS battery - there isn't one. One day soon it will become my SQL Server host for ADO.Net experimenting.:-D Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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BrianEllis wrote: but the general quality is unreliable I'm finding the opposite, I have a GA-7VKMLS and it works well. It doesn't have all the bells and whisles that hte ASUS has on it. Also I prefer AMD over Intel, 1 intel is expensive compaired to AMD 2. AMD is better with video. -Steven Hicks
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote: I'm finding the opposite, I have a GA-7VKMLS and it works well. This is what I have in my current machine (soon to be wife's except for the HDD's) and I haven't had a problem either. I'm just needing to upgrade with DDR RAM and the 2 I mentioned are in my budget. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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As for the motherboard see if you can find people who have used the same source you intend to use. I see many recommend the ASUS and you will likely be happy with it. For the record I will not buy any more for awhile having had 3 ASUS A7N8X (from 2 vendors) die with just a few days service last winter. I have only put together one gigabyte system so that is not enough to comment on, it did run fine. Three of my systems now (mine, my test box, my daughters school machine) are all ASROCK K7S8XE+ but that is no promise you will not get a bad batch from them also. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that can think of.
Thanks for the input Michael. I eventually went with the Gigabyte as I had a couple of different models running successfully for the past couple of years at home. Also someone I know has shipped nearly 80 of these motherboards (and it's predecessor) with only one problem. I also had heard good things about ASUS which is why I considered it but didn't get it for other reasons. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004