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  • C Christian Graus

    I'm thinking of buying a pocket PC, and the current winner is the ipaq 4100. Does anyone have one of these, and/or any recommendations/horror stories ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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    Neville Franks
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    I recently bought a iPaq 2210 and am very happy with it. There are a few shops here in Melbourne selling the 2210 for around $A490, where most are $A690, so it was an easy decision.:) I also got a 512M CF card for $A150. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com and coming soon: Surfulater www.surfulater.com

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    • C Christian Graus

      I'm thinking of buying a pocket PC, and the current winner is the ipaq 4100. Does anyone have one of these, and/or any recommendations/horror stories ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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      Ian Darling
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      Christian Graus wrote: I'm thinking of buying a pocket PC, and the current winner is the ipaq 4100. Does anyone have one of these, and/or any recommendations/horror stories ? I've got a 5450, which is quite good. The key things I've learnt about Pocket PCs in the 3 years or so I've been using/developing on them: a) Make sure it has Windows Mobile 2003 on it. Pocket PC 2002 was quite buggy, and it's connection manager was unusable. b) If it has Bluetooth (and you care about it), make sure it isn't Sockets Bluetooth stack installed - it's crap. The 5450 I have doesn't suffer with that stack (it has one that works), but I've encountered various other Pocket PCs with it, and it's truly terrible. c) Make sure it's expandable with SD cards or something equally sensible. You will want extra storage memory :-) d) If it isn't already on the device, consider installing Transcriber[^]. It even understands my handwriting once configured. It also means that Pocket Word can decode stuff you enter in "Writing" mode, and turn it into proper text rather than doodles. e) Move "File Explorer" onto the Start Menu immediately. Trust me on that :-) f) If using WiFi, consider installing vxUtil[^] - it's a handy tool to have to find out what your IP settings are, etc. g) If you want to program little applets on the go and don't mind javascript, take a shufty at Forward Pass[^] h) For doodling, grab Mobile Atelier[^] i) Embedded Visual Tools is buggy but usable. Platform Manager is buggy but usable. ActiveSync over a serial port isn't buggy. ActiveSync over a Bluetooth serial port is. Over USB it mostly works (but stick it on a different USB port/bus to any keyboard or mouse you have plugged in that way), Ethernet/Wifi sync works reasonably well too. j) Adjust the ClearType settings if you

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      • D Daniel Turini

        Christian Graus wrote: horror stories ? Around 5 years ago, I've spent a lot of money on this cool Casiopeia Pocket PC, and now it's taking dust somewhere... :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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        Anders Molin
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        Hehe, I catually have a cassiopeia somewhere in a closet too, together with most other of my 6 different Win CE / Pocket PC devices ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application [^]

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        • I Ian Darling

          Christian Graus wrote: I'm thinking of buying a pocket PC, and the current winner is the ipaq 4100. Does anyone have one of these, and/or any recommendations/horror stories ? I've got a 5450, which is quite good. The key things I've learnt about Pocket PCs in the 3 years or so I've been using/developing on them: a) Make sure it has Windows Mobile 2003 on it. Pocket PC 2002 was quite buggy, and it's connection manager was unusable. b) If it has Bluetooth (and you care about it), make sure it isn't Sockets Bluetooth stack installed - it's crap. The 5450 I have doesn't suffer with that stack (it has one that works), but I've encountered various other Pocket PCs with it, and it's truly terrible. c) Make sure it's expandable with SD cards or something equally sensible. You will want extra storage memory :-) d) If it isn't already on the device, consider installing Transcriber[^]. It even understands my handwriting once configured. It also means that Pocket Word can decode stuff you enter in "Writing" mode, and turn it into proper text rather than doodles. e) Move "File Explorer" onto the Start Menu immediately. Trust me on that :-) f) If using WiFi, consider installing vxUtil[^] - it's a handy tool to have to find out what your IP settings are, etc. g) If you want to program little applets on the go and don't mind javascript, take a shufty at Forward Pass[^] h) For doodling, grab Mobile Atelier[^] i) Embedded Visual Tools is buggy but usable. Platform Manager is buggy but usable. ActiveSync over a serial port isn't buggy. ActiveSync over a Bluetooth serial port is. Over USB it mostly works (but stick it on a different USB port/bus to any keyboard or mouse you have plugged in that way), Ethernet/Wifi sync works reasonably well too. j) Adjust the ClearType settings if you

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          Jonathan de Halleux
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          Thanks for the vxUtils tip ! Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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            Thanks for the vxUtils tip ! Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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            Jonathan de Halleux
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            I've recently aquired a ipack 4100. It's very good. I have also downloaded: 1) Pocket#[^], a C# compiler,(not tested yet) 2) CEdit[^], the editor, 3) WifiFofum[^], a wifi scanner. Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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            • J Jonathan de Halleux

              I've recently aquired a ipack 4100. It's very good. I have also downloaded: 1) Pocket#[^], a C# compiler,(not tested yet) 2) CEdit[^], the editor, 3) WifiFofum[^], a wifi scanner. Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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              Chris Maunder
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              Jonathan de Halleux wrote: WifiFofum[^], a wifi scanner. Sweet!! cheers, Chris Maunder Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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                Jonathan de Halleux wrote: WifiFofum[^], a wifi scanner. Sweet!! cheers, Chris Maunder Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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                Jonathan de Halleux
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                I went with the scanner in my neighborhood and I was amazed of the number of access point available :) Definitely, a must have. Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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                • J Jonathan de Halleux

                  I've recently aquired a ipack 4100. It's very good. I have also downloaded: 1) Pocket#[^], a C# compiler,(not tested yet) 2) CEdit[^], the editor, 3) WifiFofum[^], a wifi scanner. Jonathan de Halleux - My Blog

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                  Ian Darling
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                  Jonathan de Halleux wrote: 1) Pocket#[^], a C# compiler,(not tested yet) 2) CEdit[^], the editor, 3) WifiFofum[^], a wifi scanner. :cool: I'll have to check out that Wifi program, especially :-)


                  Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                  • N Neville Franks

                    I recently bought a iPaq 2210 and am very happy with it. There are a few shops here in Melbourne selling the 2210 for around $A490, where most are $A690, so it was an easy decision.:) I also got a 512M CF card for $A150. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com and coming soon: Surfulater www.surfulater.com

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Yeah, I can get that model for that much, but I want WiFi.... Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                    • I Ian Darling

                      Christian Graus wrote: I'm thinking of buying a pocket PC, and the current winner is the ipaq 4100. Does anyone have one of these, and/or any recommendations/horror stories ? I've got a 5450, which is quite good. The key things I've learnt about Pocket PCs in the 3 years or so I've been using/developing on them: a) Make sure it has Windows Mobile 2003 on it. Pocket PC 2002 was quite buggy, and it's connection manager was unusable. b) If it has Bluetooth (and you care about it), make sure it isn't Sockets Bluetooth stack installed - it's crap. The 5450 I have doesn't suffer with that stack (it has one that works), but I've encountered various other Pocket PCs with it, and it's truly terrible. c) Make sure it's expandable with SD cards or something equally sensible. You will want extra storage memory :-) d) If it isn't already on the device, consider installing Transcriber[^]. It even understands my handwriting once configured. It also means that Pocket Word can decode stuff you enter in "Writing" mode, and turn it into proper text rather than doodles. e) Move "File Explorer" onto the Start Menu immediately. Trust me on that :-) f) If using WiFi, consider installing vxUtil[^] - it's a handy tool to have to find out what your IP settings are, etc. g) If you want to program little applets on the go and don't mind javascript, take a shufty at Forward Pass[^] h) For doodling, grab Mobile Atelier[^] i) Embedded Visual Tools is buggy but usable. Platform Manager is buggy but usable. ActiveSync over a serial port isn't buggy. ActiveSync over a Bluetooth serial port is. Over USB it mostly works (but stick it on a different USB port/bus to any keyboard or mouse you have plugged in that way), Ethernet/Wifi sync works reasonably well too. j) Adjust the ClearType settings if you

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Wow - heaps of cool info here, thanks very much. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        My 4150 rocks my socks. Or r0xor5 my s0x0r5, as the foolish youth of today would have it. Bluetooth, WiFi, removable battery, light weight, SDIO card. It's all good. cheers, Chris Maunder Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Thanks Chris - now the 64 million dollar question. Do you know if the 4100 is different to the 4150 ? They happen to be the two I am looking at, and I can get the 4100 for $70 less. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Wow - heaps of cool info here, thanks very much. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                          Christian Graus wrote: Wow - heaps of cool info here, thanks very much. My pleasure :-)


                          Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            Yeah, I can get that model for that much, but I want WiFi.... Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                            There are a few issues with WiFi that my research shows up. 1) They vary a lot in battery drain. 2) 802.11b apparently slow down 802.11g networks. For 1) Socket? cards get the best reviews re. battery drain. For 2) see: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=256590 I don't know how the in-built Wi-Fi shapes up with these issues. What are you going to use the Wi-Fi for? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com and coming soon: Surfulater www.surfulater.com

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                            • N Neville Franks

                              There are a few issues with WiFi that my research shows up. 1) They vary a lot in battery drain. 2) 802.11b apparently slow down 802.11g networks. For 1) Socket? cards get the best reviews re. battery drain. For 2) see: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=256590 I don't know how the in-built Wi-Fi shapes up with these issues. What are you going to use the Wi-Fi for? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com and coming soon: Surfulater www.surfulater.com

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                              Christian Graus
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                              My notebook has WiFi and the work network is also on WiFi. I am a little disappointed that I have to choose between an expansion card and WiFi, but realistically, I'd only buy a WiFi card anyhow. I know about the battery issues, I'd turn it on when I wanted to use it :-) Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                Thanks Chris - now the 64 million dollar question. Do you know if the 4100 is different to the 4150 ? They happen to be the two I am looking at, and I can get the 4100 for $70 less. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                I'm not sure. I went looking for info on the 4100 could only find 4150 info. I guess the '50 is an upgrade. As long as it's got bluetooth, WiFi, PocketPC 2003 and an SD card slot it should be good. cheers, Chris Maunder Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

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