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    Yulianto
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    I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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      I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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      l a u r e n
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      i would strongly suggest u post in the right forum or face the consequences when u dont get an answer in the right forum it usually means that the great ones here are relaxing and not taking questions :cool:


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        i would strongly suggest u post in the right forum or face the consequences when u dont get an answer in the right forum it usually means that the great ones here are relaxing and not taking questions :cool:


        "there is no spoon"
        biz stuff about me

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        Maximilien
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        l a u r e n wrote: when u dont get an answer in the right forum it usually means that the great ones here are relaxing and not taking questions or that we don't know the answer ? or that the question is too complex to be answered on a discussion forum.


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          l a u r e n wrote: when u dont get an answer in the right forum it usually means that the great ones here are relaxing and not taking questions or that we don't know the answer ? or that the question is too complex to be answered on a discussion forum.


          Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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          Yulianto
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          I think you`re right, we don`t know the answer :)

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            I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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            ShankarPS
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            I don't normally visit VC++ forum, that's why I don't think your idea is too bad (as there can be more people like me here). But try it and I bet, you will only get '1' and nothing else.

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              I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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              Christian Graus
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              goodmast3r wrote: you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given Not if you ask for your homework done for you, or a complete project via email, no. goodmast3r wrote: Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. No, they post in the lounge because they are illiterate. goodmast3r wrote: I think there are more great programmers in the lounge Probably, in that there are probably more people here. However, even the people who read the C++ forum won't answer your question if you post it here. goodmast3r wrote: So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think Depends - can you read ? Do you want an answer, or to be flamed ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                goodmast3r wrote: you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given Not if you ask for your homework done for you, or a complete project via email, no. goodmast3r wrote: Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. No, they post in the lounge because they are illiterate. goodmast3r wrote: I think there are more great programmers in the lounge Probably, in that there are probably more people here. However, even the people who read the C++ forum won't answer your question if you post it here. goodmast3r wrote: So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think Depends - can you read ? Do you want an answer, or to be flamed ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                l a u r e n
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                eloquent as usual ;)


                "there is no spoon"
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                • Y Yulianto

                  I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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                  Ryan Binns
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                  goodmast3r wrote: I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Only if it's a stupid question, or a homework assignment, or a very involved question that would be too difficult to answer in a limited space, or a question that nobody knows the answer to, or a post asking for somebody to write their code for them. But this doesn't mean that the answer is inadequate. I think a lot of people expect too much from the answers; they want complete solutions and are not willing to do a bit of investigation themselves. How do you think the people answering the questions know the answers? By learning it themselves. By investigating and researching. Certainly not by asking people to do their work for them; that won't help people to learn at all. goodmast3r wrote: Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I doubt it. It's almost definitely because they don't bother to obey the instructions saying not to post programming questions. goodmast3r wrote: What do u think This site is designed for programmers to help others, hence the programming forums. The Lounge is specifically set up as a place where there will be no programming questions, so that people can just chill out, relax and have a bit of fun. That is why people get so uptight about programming questions here.

                  Ryan

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                    I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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                    you said: (damn Mozilla no cool reply lol:mad:) I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. When you're driving and you ask for directions, you don't expect the guy to drive you to your destination. C++ is a complicated language that requires patience, dedication, and a need for knowledge. Forum is made for direction, not for driving. Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain

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                      goodmast3r wrote: you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given Not if you ask for your homework done for you, or a complete project via email, no. goodmast3r wrote: Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. No, they post in the lounge because they are illiterate. goodmast3r wrote: I think there are more great programmers in the lounge Probably, in that there are probably more people here. However, even the people who read the C++ forum won't answer your question if you post it here. goodmast3r wrote: So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think Depends - can you read ? Do you want an answer, or to be flamed ? Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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                      Jason Hooper
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                      No, they post in the lounge because they are illiterate. !!! That's hilarious in particular :) And all-round, a good post :) Jason nirgle@gmail.com SonorkID 100.611

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                        i would strongly suggest u post in the right forum or face the consequences when u dont get an answer in the right forum it usually means that the great ones here are relaxing and not taking questions :cool:


                        "there is no spoon"
                        biz stuff about me

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                        Roger Wright
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                        When did you start relaxing? More often, I think, questions don't get answered because they're incomprehensible - badly phrased, illiterate, or seriously incomplete. Sometimes they're not answered because the querent is obviously trying to do something any normal person would find objectionable and probably illegal. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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                          When did you start relaxing? More often, I think, questions don't get answered because they're incomprehensible - badly phrased, illiterate, or seriously incomplete. Sometimes they're not answered because the querent is obviously trying to do something any normal person would find objectionable and probably illegal. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.

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                          l a u r e n
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                          :laugh: i wasnt counting myself amongst "the great ones" at cp ... not by a loooooong way


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                            I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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                            I hope you are joking. - Because if you believed that logic your code must be crap. - A lot of Qu's go unanswered in the forums because they were not asked properly and with decent etiquette. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                              I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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                              I think thwe good programmers are in the lounge because they don't want to answer stupid questions right now? for those who complain: definition of stupid: homework questions, and everything that can be solv3ed with an MSDN search. An stuff like "I need device driver write. What is difference C and C++?"


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                                I`ve seen the lounge and the vc++ forum. I notice that if you post question on the vc++ forum, you probably won`t satisfied with the answer given. Maybe that`s why people post programming question on the lounge. I think there are more great programmers in the lounge. So where will I post my programming question. Hmmm. What do u think :)

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                                Johan Rosengren
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                                I've been active on the MS MFC newsgroup a couple of years, and you might learn how to put questions there. Do not write like this:

                                i have some kewl code that breaks when u run it. any1 no how u fix it?

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                                I want my menus to work in a completely non-standard way, and I don't want to read any books, or check the documentation. Could someone please write my application for me? or even I have written some code like this: - tons of half-completed code - Why doesn't it work? What surprises me is the staggering amount of questions (well, in my opinion) where the poster seems to lack even the most basic understanding of the task. Why try to write networking code or do advanced UI coding before even learning the rudiments of c++ and/or the Windows API? And why not trying to find an article among the thousands doing something similar? Strange! There is nothing wrong with learning and asking, but sometimes you get the feeling that people have not stumbled on some specific problem, but rather tries to do stuff well beyond their current capacity. Either that or problems phrasing a question that it is possible to decode for another human being :-)

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                                  I've been active on the MS MFC newsgroup a couple of years, and you might learn how to put questions there. Do not write like this:

                                  i have some kewl code that breaks when u run it. any1 no how u fix it?

                                  or

                                  I want my menus to work in a completely non-standard way, and I don't want to read any books, or check the documentation. Could someone please write my application for me? or even I have written some code like this: - tons of half-completed code - Why doesn't it work? What surprises me is the staggering amount of questions (well, in my opinion) where the poster seems to lack even the most basic understanding of the task. Why try to write networking code or do advanced UI coding before even learning the rudiments of c++ and/or the Windows API? And why not trying to find an article among the thousands doing something similar? Strange! There is nothing wrong with learning and asking, but sometimes you get the feeling that people have not stumbled on some specific problem, but rather tries to do stuff well beyond their current capacity. Either that or problems phrasing a question that it is possible to decode for another human being :-)

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                                  Yulianto
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                                  It looks like everybody thinks that i post a bad question, or a homework, or something that is bad. The truth is it`s a good question and not something that is bad. :)

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                                    It looks like everybody thinks that i post a bad question, or a homework, or something that is bad. The truth is it`s a good question and not something that is bad. :)

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                                    Johan Rosengren
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                                    No, you placed a very general question - I guess that most who answered you intended the answers in the same way. :)

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                                      I think thwe good programmers are in the lounge because they don't want to answer stupid questions right now? for those who complain: definition of stupid: homework questions, and everything that can be solv3ed with an MSDN search. An stuff like "I need device driver write. What is difference C and C++?"


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                                      Ryan Roberts
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                                      peterchen wrote: "I need device driver write. What is difference C and C++?" :-D Ryan

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                                        I think you`re right, we don`t know the answer :)

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                                        Colin Angus Mackay
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                                        I see a lot of questions that are not formed properly. They often lack essential information, e.g. The whole post is "I get an exception when I push a button on my WinForms application. What could be wrong?" Well, really - What is the exception, where does it occur, how about posting the surrounding code (NO! Not the code for your whole application). Or, and this is unusually common and I don't know why: "I'm creating a chat application. Where do I start?" Well...... There are a lot of posts that are asking for help because the author just simply doesn't know how to use the basic features of the debugger, or they want to create some complex application but they've only been coding for a couple of weeks and have no idea about proper architecture.


                                        "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog

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                                          I think thwe good programmers are in the lounge because they don't want to answer stupid questions right now? for those who complain: definition of stupid: homework questions, and everything that can be solv3ed with an MSDN search. An stuff like "I need device driver write. What is difference C and C++?"


                                          we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
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                                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                                          peterchen wrote: "I need device driver write. What is difference C and C++?" Actually, there are worse questions than that. I've seen a couple of times someone wanting to write a device driver in VB.NET


                                          "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog

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